The Wrestling Thread Says, "Wait Just A Second There, Playa!"

[Pink Ranger]

According to Jericho and Punk, the guys are being forced to attend a meeting about the proper use of Twitter:

@CMPunk:
Having a #meeting about #tweeting and proper use #of #hashtags. Oh how the #business has changed.

@CMPunk
#shootme

Jericho posted a pic but was deleted ( Skip Shefield was in the background)

To be honest, that's a good and necessary move on the part of the WWE as a company, and I'm surprised they haven't had a meeting like this sooner.

 

[Metallo]

And if you look at the people you mention Punk, Hardy, Orton were all known to be problems in the locker and didn't have their respect during that time it wasn't until the matured that people started to take them seriously. Triple H has no problem losing to a person as long as he respects them same with the Rock, Austin, B. Hart, HBK, Taker and the rest of them. If they respect you they don't have a problem losing to you if not the won't it doesn't mater how over with the fans you are and they have earned the right to do that.

Batista had more problems in the locker room than Punk. And this is AFTER Triple H put him over. He was despised for being an ass. Thats why Booker T kicked his ass. Batista has ADMITTED there were issues with him in the locker room so you're wrong on him.

The various problems with women like Mickie James and Shelly Martinez were also well documented.

Punk was not bigger a problem than HHH and his Cliq buddies in the 90's. As far as we know Punk has never politiced like any of them or run around drugged out of his mind. Punk simply speaks his mind--just like HHH--except Punk isn't as selfish and myopic when it comes to doing business.

Orton had cleaned up his act by Wrestlemania 25 and HHH STILL didn't put him over. The only younger person he worked with recently that had issues behind the scenes was Hardy. But HHH STILL worked with him. If he was so concerned with Hardy's issues why work with him at all?

The only people you mentioned that were open to jobbing to someone in most cases were Michaels (post 2002), Bret Hart, and Rock. Bret and Shawn were always willing to job to someone who was talented and up and coming. Triple H hardly ever has been unless it was unavoidable or his friend. Triple H can't be compared to Hart and Michaels in this area.

 

[The Batman]

Yup, Trips is just crappy when it comes to putting people over.

It annoys the **** out of me that Triple H never properly put over Orton, and even worse how he just beats Punk in a match and just leaves it at that. Its annoying that HHH has beaten JEricho at every major encounter that they've had. Its disgusting how they had that "racist" angle with Booker T, and HHH didnt do the job, sending a horrible message with that storyline.

Thats why I dont wanna see HHH end the streak. It would just be yet another self serving thing for HHH.

 

[venom892]

Yea I feel once HHH is only in the front office, things will get better. But him going over Van Dam, Punk, Booker T, Jericho, etc. was fine, what wasn't fine was him refusing to return the favor. He refuses to let anyone look better. Hell a couple years ago a bulletin went out to gaming magazines to not show HHH in any vulnerable positions in the game screenshots. I mean come on.

 

[Daniel Thompson]

I rather HBK take on Rock at Wrestle Mania 29 instead of HHH.

 

[TX85]

Sucks that many of the wrestlers I grew up idolizing were/are political A-holes..Hogan/90's HBK(not sure IF he still is )/Triple H&Austin(to an extend it seems),And currently with people like Orton!!!

 

[Daniel Thompson]

Today is the 11 year anniversary of the last Monday Nitro. Fitting how Monday Night Raw tonight is in wCw terrority in Atlanta.

 

[Team Andino]

This image has always bothered me. It defines what Triple H is all about, himself. He's on the "Wrestlemania diet" and the show ended with paranoid roided up man holding and ugly title instead of a new star being cemented in what should of been Orton's Mania moment.

 

[TX85]

Anybody watching the Rock vs Cena documentary before Raw?

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Anybody watching the Rock vs Cena documentary before Raw?

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Thanks for the reminder.

 

[Van Petrol]

Triple H is only deciding who he jobs to because he's got the stroke, the rest of those guys except Austin job when they are told, in fact Rock even suggested he job to Angle. Punk wasn't a locker room problem, unless not kissing ass makes you a problem, and Orton had cleaned up his act by the time H last buried him. Hardy had drug issues for sure so there may be more involved in the way he was stalled.

It's funny, since Trips got his first tile run and made it into the league of the big guys, he never put Austin over at all as far as I recall. This would most likely have been the case again had Austin worked the main event with Trips at WMX8, and maybe why he turned it down.

I still felt Austin should have gone over in their 2 out of 3 falls match at NWO2001, but nope, Trips went over again.

 

[Van Petrol]

And yeah, I'd rather see HBK vs. Rock, than HBK vs. HHH again.

 

[TX85]

I found this video and I don't remember it happening or watching it But I sure wish I did..

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[The Sage]

Yea I feel once HHH is only in the front office, things will get better. But him going over Van Dam, Punk, Booker T, Jericho, etc. was fine, what wasn't fine was him refusing to return the favor. He refuses to let anyone look better. Hell a couple years ago a bulletin went out to gaming magazines to not show HHH in any vulnerable positions in the game screenshots. I mean come on.

Yeah, that was just ridiculous.

I rather HBK take on Rock at Wrestle Mania 29 instead of HHH.

That's definitely a dream match. It's never been done before and although it's been nearly 13 years, Shawn did superkick the Rock and helped Triple H beat him. Both are better suited wrestling one of the current stars and elevating them to keep the company going though.

Today is the 11 year anniversary of the last Monday Nitro. Fitting how Monday Night Raw tonight is in wCw terrority in Atlanta.

Wow, 11 years. It's so sad what happened to that company.

And even sadder how WWE botched the invasion.

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

This image has always bothered me. It defines what Triple H is all about, himself. He's on the "Wrestlemania diet" and the show ended with paranoid roided up man holding and ugly title instead of a new star being cemented in what should of been Orton's Mania moment.

Another perfect example in the difference of mindsets between me and everyone else here.

I don't see a single thing wrong with this picture.

Given the storyline they deemed it best to have Triple H go over (which is rather hypocritical of many fans here considering how they bash Triple H for going over Booker T and sending a "bad message" but it would have been just a bad message to send by having Orton go over here), and Randy Orton still got over just fine, becoming a big time face of the entire company. Another example of someone that did just fine without Triple H "putting them over"

 

[E-Man]

If there is no Piper's Pit for Rock and Cena tonight there is no justice.

 

[Metallo]

Another perfect example in the difference of mindsets between me and everyone else here.

I don't see a single thing wrong with this picture.

Given the storyline they deemed it best to have Triple H go over (which is rather hypocritical of many fans here considering how they bash Triple H for going over Booker T and sending a "bad message" but it would have been just a bad message to send by having Orton go over here), and Randy Orton still got over just fine, becoming a big time face of the entire company. Another example of someone that did just fine without Triple H "putting them over"

How is it a "bad message" when there's the long history of all the TERRIBLE things Triple H and the McMahon family have done?

Some people would say thats them just getting whats coming to them. I don't feel sorry for criminals who get a crime committed against them.

Triple H said it HIMSELF in his feud with Orton: He's not a good guy and he has done some terrible things.

Its hilarious how you have this kind of selective memory as long as its your favorite guys.

Triple H was the FIRST villain champion I can think of to come out of Wrestlemania the winner. A heel Orton can't win at Wrestlemania but its ok for heel Triple H to win at Wrestlemania?


Orton has yet the reach the level he could have. Triple H has held the guy down for years. Even after he had matured and grown as a performer. Orton could have gone on to become a BIGGER villain for some greater hero (like Cena) to rise up and slay.

You're right you don't think like the rest of us. You want a mediocre story while the rest would love to see an epic adventure in the grandest tradition.

 

[Pink Ranger]

Wow, 11 years. It's so sad what happened to that company.

And even sadder how WWE botched the invasion.

I'll give the WWE credit: in the early stages of the WCW acquisition, they did the best they could with the many curveballs thrown their way and other barriers to overcome: the unilaterally bad crowd reaction of WWE fans to the initial attempts to stage WCW-only matches, their unanticipated failure to secure a television home for WCW programming, the crazy contracts for guys like the NWO, Flair, Mysterio etc. that could not feasibly be bought out. There was a lot to like about the first stages of the Invasion: the alliance with ECW, the treason of Stone Cold, the buildup to the return of The Rock, the emergence of RVD. The fact that they managed to pull that off as well as they did, and give a lot of these guys jobs, is worthy of note.

But yes, as the angle died horribly, the WWE have themselves to blame for that: making the Alliance guys weak, making Austin and Booker into clowns, not developing the talent they had.

 

[venom892]

If there is no Piper's Pit for Rock and Cena tonight there is no justice.

Agreed. It's stupid not to do it.They can get physical by the end of the show and it would be a great go home Raw for Wrestlemania.

 

[venom892]

Another perfect example in the difference of mindsets between me and everyone else here.

I don't see a single thing wrong with this picture.

Given the storyline they deemed it best to have Triple H go over (which is rather hypocritical of many fans here considering how they bash Triple H for going over Booker T and sending a "bad message" but it would have been just a bad message to send by having Orton go over here), and Randy Orton still got over just fine, becoming a big time face of the entire company. Another example of someone that did just fine without Triple H "putting them over"

Triple H was the face and he BROKE INTO THE MAN'S HOUSE and terrorized his (kayfabe) wife.

 

[Daniel Thompson]

I'll give the WWE credit: in the early stages of the WCW acquisition, they did the best they could with the many curveballs thrown their way and other barriers to overcome: the unilaterally bad crowd reaction of WWE fans to the initial attempts to stage WCW-only matches, their unanticipated failure to secure a television home for WCW programming, the crazy contracts for guys like the NWO, Flair, Mysterio etc. that could not feasibly be bought out. There was a lot to like about the first stages of the Invasion: the alliance with ECW, the treason of Stone Cold, the buildup to the return of The Rock, the emergence of RVD. The fact that they managed to pull that off as well as they did, and give a lot of these guys jobs, is worthy of note.

But yes, as the angle died horribly, the WWE have themselves to blame for that: making the Alliance guys weak, making Austin and Booker into clowns, not developing the talent they had.

Yeah I heard they was going to change SD to a wCw show. But they still could of done that regardless. Have wCw on UPN replacing Smackdown.

 

[Metallo]

I'll give the WWE credit: in the early stages of the WCW acquisition, they did the best they could with the many curveballs thrown their way and other barriers to overcome: the unilaterally bad crowd reaction of WWE fans to the initial attempts to stage WCW-only matches, their unanticipated failure to secure a television home for WCW programming, the crazy contracts for guys like the NWO, Flair, Mysterio etc. that could not feasibly be bought out. There was a lot to like about the first stages of the Invasion: the alliance with ECW, the treason of Stone Cold, the buildup to the return of The Rock, the emergence of RVD. The fact that they managed to pull that off as well as they did, and give a lot of these guys jobs, is worthy of note.

But yes, as the angle died horribly, the WWE have themselves to blame for that: making the Alliance guys weak, making Austin and Booker into clowns, not developing the talent they had.

They should have done a slower burn on the Invasion angle. Considering they did a slow build to the main events of Wrestlemania 5 and Wrestlemania 28 for a year it shows its not impossible. A year later some of those big WCW players would have been more willing to come in and it could have unfolded slowly with teases.

Wrestlemania 18 could have been the PPV to blow it off at. Rock vs Hogan still could have happened as part of the WCW vs WWF storyline. Same is true for Flair vs Taker. If handled right it could have run even longer than that.

A story of that magnitude (one we'll probably never see again) had enough material to run for a looooong time.

 

[Anno_Domini]

Anyone else incredibly excited for the last Raw before WrestleMania? I am really curious to see what goes down tonight as the Raw before any PPV is usually the best way to figure out who'll win on Sunday.

 

[TX85]

I'm not too excited But I am looking forward to seeing Taker/HBK&Trip's last promo before WM,Same with Rock&Cena and the rest being build one last time!!

 

[Pink Ranger]

They should have done a slower burn on the Invasion angle. Considering they did a slow build to the main events of Wrestlemania 5 and Wrestlemania 28 for a year it shows its not impossible. A year later some of those big WCW players would have been more willing to come in and it could have unfolded slowly with teases.

Wrestlemania 18 could have been the PPV to blow it off at. Rock vs Hogan still could have happened as part of the WCW vs WWF storyline. Same is true for Flair vs Taker. If handled right it could have run even longer than that.

A story of that magnitude (one we'll probably never see again) had enough material to run for a looooong time.

Yeah, imagine if they could have kept it going, enough for most of the Turner contracts to run out. The Alliance seems to be all but destroyed, but then Triple H comes back from his injury, and brings back some old friends ...