Without the Wrestling Thread, There Is...No...You! - - Part 187

[TheNextNolan22]

Yup. Plus, back-to-back G1's of epic proportions. It also helps that both ROH and GFW are putting the spotlight on NJPW as a really big deal, so I hope that can translate to the more common wrestling fan wanting to see what the fuss is about.

And it helps that NJPW is the #2 company in the world in terms of business.

 

[Donnie Darko]

I posted them yesterday before Raw but all you guys ignored it.

Well thank you, as well.

 

[TheNextNolan22]

Maria was looking FINE during NJPW's World Tag League.

 

[Slushy]

Ambrose Vs. Wyatt is a TLC match so I guess we're getting two TLC matches this year with I imagine Rollins having to defend his briefcase since we are without a WWE Champion.

Also, I thought they said that Bad News Barrett was back after Survivor Series. What the hell?!

He's supposed to be cleared in December last time I checked.

 

[Darkness Falls]

not sure if it's been posted
but wwe put up sting's entrance video/music
[YT]DVGDXLskwVs[/YT]

 

[TX85]

So what's then latest news on Sting? When is he suppose to start appearing often? Is he wrestling Trips before Mania and then a final match against Taker at WM31 or what?

 

[Donnie Darko]

Ambrose Vs. Wyatt is a TLC match so I guess we're getting two TLC matches this year with I imagine Rollins having to defend his briefcase since we are without a WWE Champion.



He's supposed to be cleared in December last time I checked.

Ah, I thought that he said he was back during the pre-show.

 

[S. Grundy]

So what's then latest news on Sting? When is he suppose to start appearing often? Is he wrestling Trips before Mania and then a final match against Taker at WM31 or what?

Word is they plan on teasing him on TV, have him pop-up every so often. And he may wrestle more than one match.

 

[TX85]

I was hoping he'd be going full time(at least on TV)for a year or even at least from now to WM

 

[Fallen Angel]

Word is they plan on teasing him on TV, have him pop-up every so often. And he may wrestle more than one match.

Good idea just keep playnig vignette's of his till RR at least.

 

[sweetre15]

Interesting tidbits from Tyler Reks

Wrestling INC: I have to ask about your issues about John Cena, and him lashing out at you for using the Burning Hammer finisher. What happened there?

Tuft: Well, we were at a house show and I was working Eddie Colon, who I knew pretty well. We were second or third on the card and I was going over using the Burning Hammer. When I put him up, he's supposed to be looking at the ceiling. It's like a moonsault for him and a sitout DDT for me. I don't know what we did, we were hurrying or something. He didn't land on his stomach, he landed on his back and it kind of looked like an F-U (Attitude Adjustment.) We were like, "oh crap, John Cena is going to be pissed." We got to the back and John Cena was looking at a monitor and was just like, "ah, Reks. You're going to have to find a new finisher." He kind of smirked at me and I thought he was joking. I told him, "yeah man, sorry about that. It kind of got screwed up and we'll make it right tomorrow." I thought he was suggesting we get it right, not to make it look like his.

Personally I think the Burning Hammer-- my version of it-- looks way better than an F-U (laughs). I had approval from Vince and Arn and everybody. In a pre-session Arn asked me what my finisher was, and I said a Burning Hammer. He was like "It's a WHAT?!" and Dustin/Goldust goes, "here man I'll help you with it." Arn asked if he was sure, and we had this whole thing where agents were watching and John Cena was at the announce table and they had me give it to a bunch of different guys. Arn asked if Goldust was okay, and he said yes and it was easy to take. Arn said I was cleared to use it, and nobody said anything.

I used it at Bragging Rights 2010 and John was literally across the ring from me when I hit Santino Marella with it and never said anything to me then. I'd been using it for 8 months on Superstars and everything before all this. I come backstage happy after a good match with Eddie all excited and John grabs me in front of everyone and says, "what do you think you're doing? I thought I told you to get a new finisher." I said, "yeah, I thought you were joking John. We hit it wrong last night. I'm really sorry." He started yelling at me asking who gave me permission to use that. He belittled me, called me an idiot, and asked me if I enjoyed working here. I told him of course I do. He told me, "find another finisher or you're fired." I was humiliated, I was a full-grown man, why can't we talk about this like human beings?

I went outside to cool down, and I was ready to quit, to walk out. That didn't seem like a healthy workplace environment. I came back in and John Cena was sitting there by the curtain and I figured that I'd cooled off and he'd cooled off so I'll try to apologize one more time. I said, "John, I'm super sorry about this. I really thought it was just a miscommunication." He looks over at me and says, "what was there to be miscommunicated? I asked you to stop using that finisher, are you stupid?" He wouldn't even allow me to apologize. Finally I was just like, yeah, I'll find another finisher. He and I never really talked after that. That's the whole story of John Cena making me feel like a six year old boy.

Wrestling INC: Did you have any issues with him before that?

Tuft: No, everything was cool. We never really talked much. We shook hands, and asked how each other were doing. I was intimidated by him because he was the top guy in the company. I came into the business and I saw John every night on Raw like, "this is awesome, I'd love an opportunity to work with him and know this guy," and that never really happened. It never got to evolve past, "hey, how are you sir, nice to see you." We never had any problems before that. We'd only really talked one or two times before that.

 

[zeroapoc]

You know... If Ziggler does get really pissed off about not getting the spotlight after beating three guys at Survivor Series, he could do a slow burn to a heel turn, eventually causing Cena to lose his title match at Royal Rumble.

They could just do a face vs face program.

 

[Saint]

Interesting tidbits from Tyler Reks

Wrestling INC: I have to ask about your issues about John Cena, and him lashing out at you for using the Burning Hammer finisher. What happened there?

Tuft: Well, we were at a house show and I was working Eddie Colon, who I knew pretty well. We were second or third on the card and I was going over using the Burning Hammer. When I put him up, he's supposed to be looking at the ceiling. It's like a moonsault for him and a sitout DDT for me. I don't know what we did, we were hurrying or something. He didn't land on his stomach, he landed on his back and it kind of looked like an F-U (Attitude Adjustment.) We were like, "oh crap, John Cena is going to be pissed." We got to the back and John Cena was looking at a monitor and was just like, "ah, Reks. You're going to have to find a new finisher." He kind of smirked at me and I thought he was joking. I told him, "yeah man, sorry about that. It kind of got screwed up and we'll make it right tomorrow." I thought he was suggesting we get it right, not to make it look like his.

Personally I think the Burning Hammer-- my version of it-- looks way better than an F-U (laughs). I had approval from Vince and Arn and everybody. In a pre-session Arn asked me what my finisher was, and I said a Burning Hammer. He was like "It's a WHAT?!" and Dustin/Goldust goes, "here man I'll help you with it." Arn asked if he was sure, and we had this whole thing where agents were watching and John Cena was at the announce table and they had me give it to a bunch of different guys. Arn asked if Goldust was okay, and he said yes and it was easy to take. Arn said I was cleared to use it, and nobody said anything.

I used it at Bragging Rights 2010 and John was literally across the ring from me when I hit Santino Marella with it and never said anything to me then. I'd been using it for 8 months on Superstars and everything before all this. I come backstage happy after a good match with Eddie all excited and John grabs me in front of everyone and says, "what do you think you're doing? I thought I told you to get a new finisher." I said, "yeah, I thought you were joking John. We hit it wrong last night. I'm really sorry." He started yelling at me asking who gave me permission to use that. He belittled me, called me an idiot, and asked me if I enjoyed working here. I told him of course I do. He told me, "find another finisher or you're fired." I was humiliated, I was a full-grown man, why can't we talk about this like human beings?

I went outside to cool down, and I was ready to quit, to walk out. That didn't seem like a healthy workplace environment. I came back in and John Cena was sitting there by the curtain and I figured that I'd cooled off and he'd cooled off so I'll try to apologize one more time. I said, "John, I'm super sorry about this. I really thought it was just a miscommunication." He looks over at me and says, "what was there to be miscommunicated? I asked you to stop using that finisher, are you stupid?" He wouldn't even allow me to apologize. Finally I was just like, yeah, I'll find another finisher. He and I never really talked after that. That's the whole story of John Cena making me feel like a six year old boy.

Wrestling INC: Did you have any issues with him before that?

Tuft: No, everything was cool. We never really talked much. We shook hands, and asked how each other were doing. I was intimidated by him because he was the top guy in the company. I came into the business and I saw John every night on Raw like, "this is awesome, I'd love an opportunity to work with him and know this guy," and that never really happened. It never got to evolve past, "hey, how are you sir, nice to see you." We never had any problems before that. We'd only really talked one or two times before that.

Weird; I don't think I've ever heard to a story of Cena being that kind of guy. Usually he's described as being pretty stand-up, but maybe that's just his pervasive in-ring persona casting a big shadow.

 

[vantheman77]

Last night's Raw drew 4.25 million viewers.

 

[sweetre15]

So apparently Raw's script was being rewritten around the time that the pre-show was airing.

It's really crazy how it seems like the people writing the Raws can't seem to get it together to the point of constantly changing stuff and ruining what should have been simple.

This show felt like it was written on the fly. Man If I had any stroke in creative, I'd probably go on like 5 Tirades a day from the BS that seems to go on.

 

[TheNextNolan22]

I still trust Raw's "TV writers" over Vince Russo in regards to booking a pro wrestling show. I'm thinking about putting in a fall internship with WWE for next year. I'd write Raw and Smackdown for free

 

[sweetre15]

I still trust Raw's "TV writers" over Vince Russo in regards to booking a pro wrestling show. I'm thinking about putting in a fall internship with WWE for next year. I'd write Raw and Smackdown for free

I might just do that myself lol. Is love to see if I can make a difference there but the sad thing is we're both overqualified because we actually have wrestling knowledge unlike Dunn

 

[Wheels]

People were really excited about Sting and the fall of The Authority I guess. I'd be with everyone else if this was 10 or maybe even 5 years ago and The Stnger was actually doing a nice schedule where fans were guaranteed multiple feuds and storylines. You know, the full "Sting in WWE" experience.

 

[Pink Ranger]

I still trust Raw's "TV writers" over Vince Russo in regards to booking a pro wrestling show. I'm thinking about putting in a fall internship with WWE for next year. I'd write Raw and Smackdown for free

Or you can sign a developmental contract and wrestle for free.

 

[MMMMM...Pancakes]

I know I'm late to the party, but ughhh...anonymous GM returns.

 

[Team Andino]

Last night's Raw drew 4.25 million viewers.

Wonder how many of those regretted it?

 

[Bat Brain]

I know I'm late to the party, but ughhh...anonymous GM returns.

Thankfully I think it's for one night only.

 

[sweetre15]

Just when you think you have the answers, The Wrestling Thread changes the questions

 

[sweetre15]

Also since Orton is not coming back until after Christmas for the Holiday tour, does that mean we're getting Ziggler vs Rollins and Cena vs Lesnar in the double main event?

 

[Slushy]

Weird; I don't think I've ever heard to a story of Cena being that kind of guy. Usually he's described as being pretty stand-up, but maybe that's just his pervasive in-ring persona casting a big shadow.

According to the rumor mill, Cena supposedly:

- broke up Mickie James' relationship with Kenny by sleeping with her which led to both of them losing their jobs.

- injured Michael Traver on purpose.

- had removed Alex Riley removed from TV to get back at him for reacting negatively to pulling a rib on him.

- took pot shots at The Rock due to professional jealousy.

- pissed off Randy Orton last year by going off script on the go home show to TLC.