Without the Wrestling Thread, There Is...No...You! - - Part 187

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** SPOILERS ** For This Week's WWE SmackDown 11/28/14





Thanks to Tristan for the following WWE SmackDown spoilers from tonight's tapings in Fort Wayne:


* SmackDown kicks off with Big Show on MizTV but Daniel Bryan interrupts to a big pop. Bryan is the General Manager tonight and is putting Luke Harper and Rusev in matches.


* Rusev retains his United States Title in a 20-man battle royal with the rest of the roster. Rusev was forced to do the battle royal for not saying the Pledge of Allegiance on RAW.


* Nikki Bella defeated Emma. Nikki cut what was said to be a very good promo. AJ Lee came out after and attacked Nikki and Brie Bella.


* Ryback defeated Seth Rollins by disqualification when Kane interfered. Kane beat on Ryback with a chair.


* Big E, Kofi Kingston and Xavier Woods debuted as A New Day and defeated Curtis Axel, Heath Slater and Titus O'Neil.


* Backstage promo from Bray Wyatt talking about Dean Ambrose.


* Backstage segment with Daniel Bryan. He announces Kane vs. Ryback in a Chairs Match for TLC.


* Dolph Ziggler vs. Luke Harper is next with the Intercontinental Title on the line. Ziggler ended up winning by count out but Harper retains. Harper swung the title belt at Ziggler after the match but Ziggler hit a Zig Zag and celebrated to end SmackDown.
 
So apparently Raw's script was being rewritten around the time that the pre-show was airing.

It's really crazy how it seems like the people writing the Raws can't seem to get it together to the point of constantly changing stuff and ruining what should have been simple.

This show felt like it was written on the fly. Man If I had any stroke in creative, I'd probably go on like 5 Tirades a day from the BS that seems to go on.

It's very reminiscent of how disorganized WCW was during its final years.
 
According to the rumor mill, Cena supposedly:

- broke up Mickie James' relationship with Kenny by sleeping with her which led to both of them losing their jobs.

- injured Michael Traver on purpose.

- had removed Alex Riley removed from TV to get back at him for reacting negatively to pulling a rib on him.

- took pot shots at The Rock due to professional jealousy.

- pissed off Randy Orton last year by going off script on the go home to TLC.

Yikes; it'd suck if that were true. I always thought Cena was actually a good person behind the scenes.

Damn, I guess you really can't have a guy at the top in this company be a good person in real life at the height of their popularity; well excluding the likes of Bret and Daniel Bryan of course.
 
Orton getting pissed at Cena was moronic, if Cena hadn't have went off script the show would never have gotten the segment completed, it's not Cena's fault that Orton can't hold his own on the mic. As for the pot shots at The Rock? Please, it was a shooty feud and Cena is just much better at it than Rock who has all his stuff written for him and it's jokes.

The whole Mickie James thing took two people and Ken Doane is a well known *******, maybe Mickie liked being treat better?

Tarver? :funny:

The only thing listed with any actual source of credibility was Cena burying Alex Riley.

Yikes; it'd suck if that were true. I always thought Cena was actually a good person behind the scenes.

Damn, I guess you really can't have a guy at the top in this company be a good person in real life at the height of their popularity; well excluding the likes of Bret and Daniel Bryan of course.

I guess it depends how you look at it, Bret has admitted laying pipe left and right to rats while on the road with his wife sat at home.
 
Even if the Cena/Mickie thing took two people, it takes only one to either turn it down or call it off. It's much like the situation with Shawn/Sunny all those years ago.

No matter the reason, If it's your fiancée being screwed behind your back, you have a right to be pissed about it.

In regards to people with credibility, the thing is who in WWE would ever just come out and bury Cena? Nobody...if they want to keep their jobs. Look at what happened to Ziggler simply for saying he's tired of seeing John Cena on top or even Cesaro possibly for saying he's tired of Orton/Cena matches.

I'm not going to outright say it's all true on Rek's account but he didn't seem bitter about it so it gives it more credence since he was simply describing one instance.
 
I don't think being marred to a non-wrestler who isn't on the road is the best idea for an active performer.
 
I don't think being marred to a non-wrestler who isn't on the road is the best idea for an active performer.

Most likely true unless you can pull a Macho Man and take them on the road with you.
 
I thought the thing with Cena and Mickie took place after she broke up with Ken Doane?
 
I couldn't care less for AJ, but that "talent is not sexually transmitted" line:

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I couldn't care less for AJ, but that "talent is not sexually transmitted" line:

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Well, if it was then Nikki wouldn't have to worry about catching it.
 
I might just do that myself lol. Is love to see if I can make a difference there but the sad thing is we're both overqualified because we actually have wrestling knowledge unlike Dunn

Kevin Dunn (along with Vince) is very out if touch, and he also seemingly has his head up Vince's ass. However, the guy has been heavily involved in WWF/E since the dawn of Hulkamania, so I'd assume he has quite a bit of "knowledge" about the business he works in.

Wisdom, however, is more than just knowledge. That seems like something he may be missing right now.
 
A New Day is a lame name for a Stable.
Weird; I don't think I've ever heard to a story of Cena being that kind of guy. Usually he's described as being pretty stand-up, but maybe that's just his pervasive in-ring persona casting a big shadow.
Everyone has a dark side. Cena wouldn't be human if his didn't come out at some point in all the years he has worked at the WWE.
 
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These three have such great chemistry together that at this point I won't be too bothered if they have a stereotypical gimmick.
 
Almost every black wrestler character can be viewed as a stereotype in some way (the African American male athlete in and of itself can be seen as a stereotype), so it's hard to get away from. Unless you want to see Xavier Woods as a transvestite opera-singing crocodile hunter.
 
Almost every black wrestler character can be viewed as a stereotype in some way (the African American male athlete in and of itself can be seen as a stereotype), so it's hard to get away from. Unless you want to see Xavier Woods as a transvestite opera-singing crocodile hunter.

Well now I do.
 
Kevin Dunn (along with Vince) is very out if touch, and he also seemingly has his head up Vince's ass. However, the guy has been heavily involved in WWF/E since the dawn of Hulkamania, so I'd assume he has quite a bit of "knowledge" about the business he works in.

Wisdom, however, is more than just knowledge. That seems like something he may be missing right now.

Hopefully Dunn does something stupid like sexually harass one of the employees so they will have no choice but to fire him.
 
Hopefully Dunn does something stupid like sexually harass one of the employees so they will have no choice but to fire him.

Maybe he can try to sexually harass Brock Lesnar. He would likely receive notice that he was fired when he wakes up in the hospital.
 
Maybe he can try to sexually harass Brock Lesnar. He would likely receive notice that he was fired when he wakes up in the hospital.


Either that, or we see Brock Lesnar hold a press conference with Gloria Allred where he is crying and stating how the silence must end.
 
As promised, here's Randy Savage's final WWE interview. (It took me awhile to type this up.) Its the last thing he officially did for the company since leaving in 1994:

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Smackdown Magazine said:
The Noble Savage: Catching Up With Macho Madness
By Brian Solomon

With his manic demeanor and flashy sequined capes, "Macho Man" Randy Savage was one of WWE's most recognizable Superstars of the 1980s and early '90s. Flanked by the lovely Elizabeth as he strode to the ring to the tune of "Pomp and Circumstance", Savage enjoyed popularity equal to that of Hulk Hogan, "Rowdy" Roddy Piper, and Andre The Giant. A simple "Ohhh, yeeeaaahh" or "Dig it!" in his unmistakable raspy voice was enough to light up any crowd.

Now, Savage is putting that voice of his to a different use, one that no one could have predicted: Rapping. In October, the Macho Man released his first hip-hop CD, Be a Man, and has thrown himself into this new career path.

His previous career gained him world renown and seemed predestined. The son of 1950s and '60s wrestler, Angelo Poffo, Randy grew up in the business.

"It was really fun", recalls the Macho Man. "A lot of the wrestlers would come over to meet my dad for a ride, so I got to meet a lot of those that were on television. I'd say about 95 percent of them were real nice to me, shook my hand and all that. Being a kid, I was starstruck."

In high school, Randy Poffo played football, basketball, and baseball. At first, it looked like it would be baseball where he would make his mark. After graduation, he went straight into the minor leagues, playing in the farm systems of the St. Louis Cardinals, Cincinnati Reds, and Chicago White Sox.

But the lure of the ring was in his blood, and he eventually entered the family business, in which his father was already an established star, which helped. He made his pro debut in the mid-1970s, and soon thereafter got his famous ring name when wrestler / promoter Ole Anderson commented that "the kid wrestles like a savage."

Savage competed throughout the old territorial system, in places like Detroit, Amarillo, Texas, and later his dad's Kentucky-based company, International Championship Wrestling (ICW). Ending a long-running feud with Jerry Jarrett's Memphis territory, Savage, along with his dad and brother, "Leaping" Lanny Poffo, buried the hatchet and went to work the promotion. It was while working there that Randy got a fateful call.

"Vince McMahon came to and said, "I'll guarantee you an opportunity.", he remembers. I said , "That's good enough for me." That was the break I was waiting for. That was what made me."

The flashy and flamboyant Savage was a perfect fit for the expanding organization, then in the midst of becoming the world's premier provider of sports-entertainment. On June 17, 1985, "Macho Man" Randy Savage made his first appearance at a WWE TV taping in Poughkeepsie, New York.

Almost immediately, the brash young competitor caught the fans' attention with his kinetic interview style and a level of aerial technique rarely seen in competitors his size. At the start of 1986, he won the Intercontinental Championship from Tito Santana in Boston Garden to begin a reign that would last over a year.

"That was my first break after coming to the company," he says. "I wanted to prove I could take the ball and run with it. That's what started things rolling. It gave me instant credibility."

Ironically, it was the match in which Savage lost the I-C title that is best remembered. At Wrestlemania III in the Pontiac Silverdome, Savage and Ricky "The Dragon" Steamboat engaged in a classic that literally stole the show.

"That's the biggest rush I ever had in my life, " Savage says. "To go down the aisle in front of 93,000-plus was unbelievable. Nothing in my life compared to it. Knowing the place was sold out, knowing it was the world record, and then participating in that match, being able to compete with someone with the athletic ability of Ricky Steamboat. It made my own abilities known to the world. It was a phenominal opportunity. I compare everything to that rush right there."

Although he lost the title, the publicity from the match made Savage an even bigger star. Before 1987 was out, his popularity ran second only to the WWE Champion, Hulk Hogan. It was only fitting that the Hulkster and the Macho Man form an alliance: The Mega Powers.

After Hogan's first title reign ended at the start of 1988, a golden opportunity presented itself. Savage seized it, as he won four tournament matches in a single night to snare the vacant WWE crown at Wrestlemania IV. He would stand atop the wrestling world for a full year.

"It was fun, but I also knew from growing up with my dad, it was a responsibility to be a leader to the other wrestlers, " he explains. "It's a responsibility for a lead dog to make the dressing room productive, and get everyone feeling good about themselves."

Savage was the next major champion to follow the Hulkster, but it was Hogan who brought that title reign to an end after The Mega Powers exploded at Wrestlemania V. The Macho Man continued to be a major player in WWE for the next few years, morphing for a while into the villainous "Macho King" before once again embracing fans in an emotional reunion with Elizabeth at Wrestlemania VII.

By the beginning of the 1990s, the era of the "New Generation" had arrived, and Savage began playing less of an in-ring role. He spent some time as an announcer, and was part of Monday Night Raw's original broadcast team. A brief return to action in 1992 saw Savagee enjoy a second WWE Championship reign at the expense of Ric Flair. But at the end of 1994, Savage walked away from WWE and headed south to the old WCW.

Although the Macho Man got a chance to return to full-time competition, and wore the WCW World title on several occasions, he does not look back fondly on his years spent in that organization.

"I wrestled for Vince for 10 years and found the right way to run a wrestling company, " he says. "Then I went to work for WCW for 5 years, and found out the wrong way to run a wrestling company. It was completely different under Vince McMahon. Vince is the leader, the one calling the shots. In WCW, they had all chiefs and no Indians. Just a real mess."

In recent years, Savage has been in semi-retirement, choosing not to compete on the independent circuit. Satisfied with the legacy he's left behind, he's chosen instead to pursue different ventures. For instance, he played the role of Bonesaw McGraw in the 2002 blockbuster motion picture, Spider-Man, duking it out with, Peter Parker in a steel cage.

"Sam Raimi was really fun to work for," he says. It was kind of like we were working with him instead of for him."

Earlier this year, Savage was deeply saddened by the passing of his ex-wife Elizabeth Hulette. Although the two had been divorced for ten years, they will always be associated in the hearts of fans that watched their unique relationship unfold on TV.

"That was real sad," Savage says. "A friend of mine told me about it. That's what a friend does; he's a bearer of bad news. I felt very bad for her and her family. We weren't in constant contact with each other; we'd agreed to go on with our lives."

After mourning Elizabeth's death, the Macho Man entered a new phase of his life. After doing a promotion involving boxers represented by Big 3 Records chairman Bill Edwards, Savage was offered a chance to join Edwards' label as a rap artist. He jumped at the chance, and the result is Be a Man, the Macho Man's debut album released October 7.

"I've been a fan of music my whole life," he says. "A lot of people can be touched by music. When I got the opportunity to do this, it was like the opportunity Vince McMahon gave me to come up to New York and express myself with my talent. Now, I've gotten the chance to express myself in the music world. I'm not one that's gonna write a book, like everybody's doing now. This is my book, my first CD. I plan on coming up with more CDs, if the public embraces it."

Featuring a cameo by hip-hop performance DJ Kool (responsible for the late '90s hit "Let Me Clear My Throat"), the album also included a tribute to the late "Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig entitled, "My Perfect Friend." As Savage embarks on a nationwide media tour in support of the new release, the obvious question remains in the mind of surprised fans: Why rap?

"Because I can't sing!" laughs Macho. "Basically, if I tried to sing, it would just be a joke. I don't take myself real seriously on this rapping, but because of my voice, it seems to work. I'm not saying I'm the world's greatest rapper. I'm just trying to entertain my wrestling fans, and possibly bring some of my wrestling fans over to the hip-hop world."

Unorthodox? Yes. Unexpected? Very. But it's all par for the course for one of sports-entertainment's most unorthodox and unpredictable Superstars. Randy Savage had made a career of shocking and thrilling fans, and hopes to continue doing so in his new chosen field. Clearly, Macho Madness is still running wild.

Shame WWE acted too late on a Macho Man project with his involvement, but below is his shoot interview to make up for it. (Hell, I might edit together my own version of The Randy Savage Story using the audio.)



The Hall Of Fame beckons The Macho Man. YEAH!
 
As promised, here's Randy Savage's final WWE interview. (It took me awhile to type this up.) Its the last thing he officially did for the company since leaving in 1994:

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Shame WWE acted too late on a Macho Man project with his involvement, but below is his shoot interview to make up for it. (Hell, I might edit together my own version of The Randy Savage Story using the audio.)



The Hall Of Fame beckons The Macho Man. YEAH!


Awesome stuff...Shame Macho was blacklisted from the company
 
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