this is definitly not an end to a trilogy

[JeanGrey12]

I mean, they have said that this is not so much an end to the series as much as an end to the trilogy. an end to the relationships of the original trilogy. when you think about it, that doesn't even make sense. i mean we never really know whether or not cyclops is dead (though it can be assumed), we never find out if magneto fully has his powers back. we don't find out what rogue and iceman's relationship is left off as. we don't know if angel becomes an xman. so many questions. very few answers, and some that are given aren't definite. how can this be called an end to the trilogy if you leave it open ended?

 

[DarknessOfDeath]

Fox said they didn't want Scott and Jean back so what was their idea? oh yeah...if ya want them in, they better die. Harsh, I know but Scott and Jean should have been the bigger players here, not Wolverine and Storm.

 

[xii22_loop]

not an end indeed.

 

[Mike059jig]

No its not Wolverine part 4 is coming out

 

[LastSunrise1981]

Wolverine's solo film is going to flop horribly. I don't think anyone other than comic book fanboys will actually see this film.

I'm sure those who have a fetish for Hugh Jackman will see it, but the casual viewer doesn't care about Wolverine as an individual character. For one his story is too dark, too violent, and there's absolutely no way to do it justice.

I can't wait for it to flop so those who supported Fox, Ratner, Kinberg, and Penn can end up with a large amount of egg on their faces. I have a feeling that the majority of those who really LOVE X3 had their way they'd have Ratner direct Return of the King, kill off Frodo, Sam, Aragorn, Gimli, and have Legolas destroy the ring since Orlando Bloom became a popular star during the Lord of the Rings trilogy.

Of course if Ratner directed Return of the King it'd be 1hr and 40minutes.

 

[War Lord]

It's probably not the last X-men movie. But it's certainly likely the end of the Xavier-Magneto trilogy.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

It's probably not the last X-men movie. But it's certainly likely the end of the Xavier-Magneto trilogy.

Yes, it's the last of THAT trilogy. But there are other stories they can create.

However, they need to get it away from Fox before they try anymore X-Men films. I don't want them screwing up a story that involves Apocalypse and Mr. Sinister.

Then again, they already screwed up the Phoenix Saga, which is a huge insult to the fans.

 

[ntcrawler]

Wolverine doesn't count here. Neither does Magneto. their movies are supposed to be prequels. They will contribute nothing to answer the questions or complete the story arcs left open after X2 that X3 decided to either ignore or to make pointless

Prequels don't complete stories or trilogies

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

I mean, they have said that this is not so much an end to the series as much as an end to the trilogy. an end to the relationships of the original trilogy. when you think about it, that doesn't even make sense. i mean we never really know whether or not cyclops is dead (though it can be assumed), we never find out if magneto fully has his powers back. we don't find out what rogue and iceman's relationship is left off as. we don't know if angel becomes an xman. so many questions. very few answers, and some that are given aren't definite. how can this be called an end to the trilogy if you leave it open ended?

I'd say one could safely assume that Angel isn't an X-Men, since he was seen flying in San Francisco after the events of X-Men: The Last Stand, and the X-Men are in New York. I think he went home.

Cyclops is dead, as far as the movies are concerned. Yes, he would be very easy to bring back, but it's really not implied in the movie that there's any conclussion left to be made on the Cyclops situation.

Magneto, I don't think truly warrants an ongoing story arc to justify a 4th movie. Rogue and Iceman's relationship is heavily implied to have "worked" now that she can touch him.

I admit, there are a couple cliffhangers for what was intended to be the last (that I think were put in merely for shock value moreso than to plant seeds for further movies), and I also admit that many of these "conclussions" were not the ideal conclussions for the trilogy (namely Cyclops and Rogue).

But alas, it has been concluded. The adventures of the X-Men, in the movie verse, is over. It sucks. But with the way the movies have been handled (in the way they closed out this movie) I believe it would be bad storytelling to continue, even if there are many thing I still wish to see.

 

[ntcrawler]

But alas, it has been concluded. The adventures of the X-Men, in the movie verse, is over. It sucks. But with the way the movies have been handled (in the way they closed out this movie) I believe it would be bad storytelling to continue, even if there are many thing I still wish to see.

But you don't seriously believe that, do you? Otherwise you wouldn't be writing a script for a sequel now

 

[Cyclops]

Well, when you've got the ending note hinging on some terrible writing, it's only logical to believe that more bad writing would follow if they continued with it.

 

[War Lord]

I'd say one could safely assume that Angel isn't an X-Men, since he was seen flying in San Francisco after the events of X-Men: The Last Stand, and the X-Men are in New York. I think he went home.

Cyclops is dead, as far as the movies are concerned. Yes, he would be very easy to bring back, but it's really not implied in the movie that there's any conclussion left to be made on the Cyclops situation.

Magneto, I don't think truly warrants an ongoing story arc to justify a 4th movie. Rogue and Iceman's relationship is heavily implied to have "worked" now that she can touch him.

I admit, there are a couple cliffhangers for what was intended to be the last (that I think were put in merely for shock value moreso than to plant seeds for further movies), and I also admit that many of these "conclussions" were not the ideal conclussions for the trilogy (namely Cyclops and Rogue).

But alas, it has been concluded. The adventures of the X-Men, in the movie verse, is over. It sucks. But with the way the movies have been handled (in the way they closed out this movie) I believe it would be bad storytelling to continue, even if there are many thing I still wish to see.

Trilogies are always best with movies.

 

[AznBABYBANDIT]

Yes, it's the last of THAT trilogy. But there are other stories they can create.

However, they need to get it away from Fox before they try anymore X-Men films. I don't want them screwing up a story that involves Apocalypse and Mr. Sinister.

Then again, they already screwed up the Phoenix Saga, which is a huge insult to the fans.

Sorry ima late, but it wasnt a PHOENIX saga... it was a CURE saga...

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

But you don't seriously believe that, do you? Otherwise you wouldn't be writing a script for a sequel now

Yes, I do believe that.

Just because I'm writing a fan script doesn't mean I endorse a 4th X-Men movie.

Had things played out differently with the movies, yes, I'd endorse a 4th. But with the way they ended up, I believe it'd be bad storytelling.

My fan script is something I'm working on for a few reasons, but it all boils down to fun. I'm an English major, with a desire to get into screenwriting, so it counts as practice. Because of all the time and devotion I put into X-Men 3 waiting for it to come out, and especially spending time on these boards discussing ideas with everyone for how the movie could have panned out, I have many ideas for the X-Men film universe. And because I am so passionate about the X-Men, as a comic book, cartoon series, movie trilogy, and even X-Men Legends video games, those ideas, plus my desire to get into screenwriting, allowed this to be a perfect oppourtunity to practice my skills, and express my creativity.

As you can see though, I haven't added anything new for awhile. Part is because I'm a bit stumped on how I want to handle my next particular arc. Another is because with work and school (and being as devoted a San Francisco 49ers fan as I am an X-Men fan, and football season being upon us now, and my attending the Rams vs. 49ers game last week and many more to come) I haven't found a lot of time. And the other is because, simply put, nobody is reading it, and I'm not getting a lot of feedback, positive or negative, and I'm losing inspiration to do it.

I'm writing the script for fun, NOT because (as some people do) I feel certain things in the franchise need to be fixed. I am extremely satisfied with the trilogy that we got, all 3 parts. Sure, I'm disappointed in some parts; Lady Deathstrike (one of my favorite villians) had no history with Wolverine, Gambit was not so much as even recognized as part of the X-Men universe, and Cyclops perished and Rogue eventually took the cure, but on the whole all 3 movies made me very proud as an X-Men fan to see my favorite characters my entire life brought to life on the big screen. And I don't want to see the legacy of the X-Men films tarnished by them over-extending it by making a new, unneccesary film, that doesn't have any seeds planted in earlier films, just to juice off of the franchise. And please don't tell me that X-Men: The Last Stand tarnished the legacy of the franchise, because it didn't. Not for me.

 

[AznBABYBANDIT]

well a sequal 4 fun

 

[LastSunrise1981]

Yes, I do believe that.

Just because I'm writing a fan script doesn't mean I endorse a 4th X-Men movie.

Had things played out differently with the movies, yes, I'd endorse a 4th. But with the way they ended up, I believe it'd be bad storytelling.

My fan script is something I'm working on for a few reasons, but it all boils down to fun. I'm an English major, with a desire to get into screenwriting, so it counts as practice. Because of all the time and devotion I put into X-Men 3 waiting for it to come out, and especially spending time on these boards discussing ideas with everyone for how the movie could have panned out, I have many ideas for the X-Men film universe. And because I am so passionate about the X-Men, as a comic book, cartoon series, movie trilogy, and even X-Men Legends video games, those ideas, plus my desire to get into screenwriting, allowed this to be a perfect oppourtunity to practice my skills, and express my creativity.

As you can see though, I haven't added anything new for awhile. Part is because I'm a bit stumped on how I want to handle my next particular arc. Another is because with work and school (and being as devoted a San Francisco 49ers fan as I am an X-Men fan, and football season being upon us now, and my attending the Rams vs. 49ers game last week and many more to come) I haven't found a lot of time. And the other is because, simply put, nobody is reading it, and I'm not getting a lot of feedback, positive or negative, and I'm losing inspiration to do it.

I'm writing the script for fun, NOT because (as some people do) I feel certain things in the franchise need to be fixed. I am extremely satisfied with the trilogy that we got, all 3 parts. Sure, I'm disappointed in some parts; Lady Deathstrike (one of my favorite villians) had no history with Wolverine, Gambit was not so much as even recognized as part of the X-Men universe, and Cyclops perished and Rogue eventually took the cure, but on the whole all 3 movies made me very proud as an X-Men fan to see my favorite characters my entire life brought to life on the big screen. And I don't want to see the legacy of the X-Men films tarnished by them over-extending it by making a new, unneccesary film, that doesn't have any seeds planted in earlier films, just to juice off of the franchise. And please don't tell me that X-Men: The Last Stand tarnished the legacy of the franchise, because it didn't. Not for me.

See people? This is exactly why no one takes Nell seriously anymore. This is the same person who saw X3 SEVEN TIMES, and gave Fox SEVEN TIMES the money.

I used to respect Nell until he blindly began following this product. How is making an X4 tarnishing the franchise history? The cure isn't as lethal or as perfect as they made it out to be. So it can signal the return of Magneto, Rogue, and Mystique. Xavier didn't die and Cyclops death isn't shown for a reason, so in the end it's not impossible at all to make a 4th film.

You have your X-Men and that's fine. X3 for some people isn't an X-Men film at all. It's just another Wolverine story with Storm hogging up more screen time now.

Just because YOU ARE HAPPY with mediocre material doesn't mean that others have to be. If fans took the same attitude you have then Batman Begins wouldn't have been made, Superman Returns wouldn't have come to fruition, and Casino Royale wouldn't be a restart for the James Bond franchise.

So go ahead, give up. Be satisfied with what Fox gave you as an ending to a trilogy, however, some fans want better quality and X3 didn't deliver on that promise. But if X3 made you proud to be an X-Men fan, I'd hate to see what you'd say if it turned out to be a Batman and Robin.

Then again you'd probably say the same thing.

 

[WorthyStevens]

See people? This is exactly why no one takes Nell seriously anymore. This is the same person who saw X3 SEVEN TIMES, and gave Fox SEVEN TIMES the money.

I used to respect Nell until he blindly began following this product. How is making an X4 tarnishing the franchise history? The cure isn't as lethal or as perfect as they made it out to be. So it can signal the return of Magneto, Rogue, and Mystique. Xavier didn't die and Cyclops death isn't shown for a reason, so in the end it's not impossible at all to make a 4th film.

You have your X-Men and that's fine. X3 for some people isn't an X-Men film at all. It's just another Wolverine story with Storm hogging up more screen time now.

Just because YOU ARE HAPPY with mediocre material doesn't mean that others have to be. If fans took the same attitude you have then Batman Begins wouldn't have been made, Superman Returns wouldn't have come to fruition, and Casino Royale wouldn't be a restart for the James Bond franchise.

So go ahead, give up. Be satisfied with what Fox gave you as an ending to a trilogy, however, some fans want better quality and X3 didn't deliver on that promise. But if X3 made you proud to be an X-Men fan, I'd hate to see what you'd say if it turned out to be a Batman and Robin.

Then again you'd probably say the same thing.

LastSunrise, I haven't disagreed with you that much but that was uncalled for.

 

[NateGray]

See people? This is exactly why no one takes Nell seriously anymore. This is the same person who saw X3 SEVEN TIMES, and gave Fox SEVEN TIMES the money.

I used to respect Nell until he blindly began following this product. How is making an X4 tarnishing the franchise history? The cure isn't as lethal or as perfect as they made it out to be. So it can signal the return of Magneto, Rogue, and Mystique. Xavier didn't die and Cyclops death isn't shown for a reason, so in the end it's not impossible at all to make a 4th film.

You have your X-Men and that's fine. X3 for some people isn't an X-Men film at all. It's just another Wolverine story with Storm hogging up more screen time now.

Just because YOU ARE HAPPY with mediocre material doesn't mean that others have to be. If fans took the same attitude you have then Batman Begins wouldn't have been made, Superman Returns wouldn't have come to fruition, and Casino Royale wouldn't be a restart for the James Bond franchise.

So go ahead, give up. Be satisfied with what Fox gave you as an ending to a trilogy, however, some fans want better quality and X3 didn't deliver on that promise. But if X3 made you proud to be an X-Men fan, I'd hate to see what you'd say if it turned out to be a Batman and Robin.

Then again you'd probably say the same thing.

LMAO you bash someones opinion and then try to spin your opinion as somehow better because they liked X3 and you didn't hilarious as they could easily say the same about you liking SR and its medicoreness and seeing it more than once and how thats putting money in WB's pocket for a terrible superman movie.

And for the record X1 and X2 were no better for a comic book fan than X3 they all three butchered the characters.
I do agree it was from the begining the wolverine story as thats what FOX wanted so you can quit blaming Ratner because Singer if they had paid him would have done the same thing Ratner did put in whatever FOX wanted and in fact made it the wolverine story from the get go.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

LastSunrise, I haven't disagreed with you that much but that was uncalled for.

What was uncalled for? I told the truth. Just because I don't sugarcoat anything doesn't mean I'm a prick. He has his opinion and that is fine, but he needs to accept that some fans don't like this film at all.

He needs to accept the reality that this is an Internet Message Forum. No one is going to fall on their knees and worship X3, and then blindly support it when they know it could've been better.

You call it uncalled for, I call it the truth. Don't like it? Too bad.

@NateGray- I know A LOT of fans who HATE Superman Returns. Those same fans and same people respect my opinion, and I respect their opinion. The only difference is they're not insulting anyone who enjoys the film. They're not saying, "those who like the film are losers and don't have good taste", or "those who love the film blindly support it".

They offer intelligent reasons for their dislike of it, and some of their opinions/feelings I agree with actually. Those same fans aren't going to accept a mediocre film as an ending to a trilogy. Which is why I respect them a hell of a lot more than some fans here.

Some fans enjoyed X1/X2 because it concentrated more on the emotional character stories. Some of the changes and flaws didn't ruin or change the film in a major way, you know? Whereas this film took what was unique and awesome about The Phoenix Saga, X1/X2 and just defecated on a masterpiece of a story.

I don't understand how some "true" X-Men fans can just sit here and accept that Fox did. How can you just sit back and say, "oh big deal, they killed Cyclops, Jean, Xavier, cured Rogue, and so on and so forth". This story was to be the story that focused on Jean/Cyclops(which Singer promised the fans after X2's success).

So as fans of the source material we're supposed to sit back and let Fox spit in our face? No. I've never been one to accept mediocre material, and I'm not about to start today.

I know some fans enjoyed X3. My girlfriend loved it, her sister enjoyed it, the majority of my friends in real life enjoyed it, and quite a few people I know on the SHH! enjoyed it. I don't insult them nor feel the need to look down on them for their own opinion. I think they present their opinions in a different manner to be honest. They don't come off as elitists, snobs, or blindly support a film and call those who don't enjoy it "Fake superhero fans."

Nell says we take the film too seriously, yet he has a counter under his name that states he saw it seven times. So we can't take it seriously, but he can?

THIS is what should've happened in the film.

 

[NateGray]

What was uncalled for? I told the truth. Just because I don't sugarcoat anything doesn't mean I'm a prick. He has his opinion and that is fine, but he needs to accept that some fans don't like this film at all.

He needs to accept the reality that this is an Internet Message Forum. No one is going to fall on their knees and worship X3, and then blindly support it when they know it could've been better.

You call it uncalled for, I call it the truth. Don't like it? Too bad.

@NateGray- I know A LOT of fans who HATE Superman Returns. Those same fans and same people respect my opinion, and I respect their opinion. The only difference is they're not insulting anyone who enjoys the film. They're not saying, "those who like the film are losers and don't have good taste", or "those who love the film blindly support it".

They offer intelligent reasons for their dislike of it, and some of their opinions/feelings I agree with actually. Those same fans aren't going to accept a mediocre film as an ending to a trilogy. Which is why I respect them a hell of a lot more than some fans here.

And yet you did exactly what you are saying you do not like people doing and attacked and insulted that poster just because you didn't like there opinion about X3?
And yes veiled attacks and insults are still attacks and insults.

Just because you thought X3 was medicore doesn't mean other people did, they may think like I do that it was just as good as the other medicore X films so our expectations were low because the first two were barley like there comic book counterparts so why would I expect better from a thrid film than the first two produced????
Should I have expected them to finally show the charcters like there comic book counterparts? did I care for more character development that was wrong like the first two movies, me no I did not need to see anoher mis-characterizattion so why give me backround on a character when its going to be like the first tywo movies and be wrong?

 

[LastSunrise1981]

And yet you did exactly what you are saying you do not like people doing and attacked and insulted that poster just because you didn't like there opinion about X3?
And yes veiled attacks and insults are still attacks and insults.

Just because you thought X3 was medicore doesn't mean other people did, they may think like I do that it was just as good as the other medicore X films so our expectations were low because the first two were barley like there comic book counterparts so why would I expect better from a thrid film than the first two produced????
Should I have expected them to finally show the charcters like there comic book counterparts? did I care for more character development that was wrong like the first two movies, me no I did not need to see anoher mis-characterizattion so why give me backround on a character when its going to be like the first tywo movies and be wrong?

I don't like people who blindly follow a product. If you look at my past posts, there are a lot of people who HATE the films that I love.

I enjoyed films like Batman Begins, Constantine, The Da Vinci Code, Superman Returns, King Kong, Schindlers List, V For Vendetta, War of the Worlds, and so on and so forth. I present my opinion in an intelligent manner and they present their opinion in the same fashion.

The only difference is we're not attacking anyone at all. We debate, discuss, and accept each others viewpoints for a particular film. We don't pull an X-Maniac and claim, "those who don't like X3 are nothing more than Singer fanboys and aren't true superhero fans".

Does my opinion and my posts come off as harsh? Yes. I know they do, but you have to understand that its the way I am. I am honest, stern, and realistic in my views. I will not sugarcoat anything just because my opinion happens to be different from their views.

I didn't call Nell any names in my post nor did I attack him in a vicious personal way. I simply told him how I felt and how he needs to accept that people won't accept mediocre material as the ending to a trilogy.

 

[WorthyStevens]

I don't like people who blindly follow a product. If you look at my past posts, there are a lot of people who HATE the films that I love.

I enjoyed films like Batman Begins, Constantine, The Da Vinci Code, Superman Returns, King Kong, Schindlers List, V For Vendetta, War of the Worlds, and so on and so forth. I present my opinion in an intelligent manner and they present their opinion in the same fashion.

The only difference is we're not attacking anyone at all. We debate, discuss, and accept each others viewpoints for a particular film. We don't pull an X-Maniac and claim, "those who don't like X3 are nothing more than Singer fanboys and aren't true superhero fans".

Does my opinion and my posts come off as harsh? Yes. I know they do, but you have to understand that its the way I am. I am honest, stern, and realistic in my views. I will not sugarcoat anything just because my opinion happens to be different from their views.

I didn't call Nell any names in my post nor did I attack him in a vicious personal way. I simply told him how I felt and how he needs to accept that people won't accept mediocre material as the ending to a trilogy.

You didn't insult him? You just said this:

See people? This is exactly why no one takes Nell seriously anymore. This is the same person who saw X3 SEVEN TIMES, and gave Fox SEVEN TIMES the money.

 

[DarknessOfDeath]

THIS is what should've happened in the film.

mmMmm. I agree.

 

[NateGray]

I don't like people who blindly follow a product. If you look at my past posts, there are a lot of people who HATE the films that I love.

I enjoyed films like Batman Begins, Constantine, The Da Vinci Code, Superman Returns, King Kong, Schindlers List, V For Vendetta, War of the Worlds, and so on and so forth. I present my opinion in an intelligent manner and they present their opinion in the same fashion.

The only difference is we're not attacking anyone at all. We debate, discuss, and accept each others viewpoints for a particular film. We don't pull an X-Maniac and claim, "those who don't like X3 are nothing more than Singer fanboys and aren't true superhero fans".

Does my opinion and my posts come off as harsh? Yes. I know they do, but you have to understand that its the way I am. I am honest, stern, and realistic in my views. I will not sugarcoat anything just because my opinion happens to be different from their views.

I didn't call Nell any names in my post nor did I attack him in a vicious personal way. I simply told him how I felt and how he needs to accept that people won't accept mediocre material as the ending to a trilogy.

Its all good I understand and while I agree with alot of the things you say about X3 just not all of them.
So it seems we have similar views so I guess I am done here and will just have a coke a smile and shut the f up.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

You didn't insult him? You just said this:

Yes, I did say it. It's the truth though. He's insulted me and my dislike for the film a number of times and I never said anything.

It's not my fault he gave Fox 7 times the money they deserve now, is it? I don't care if he likes the film. I'm glad he found some enjoyment out of it than others.