Sequels Thread for VILLANS in Spider-Man 4 and 5 (Don't make any more!)

[Spider-ManHero12]

For some reason, I also think Lizard won't be in Spiderman 4.

Well, Sam has been hinting at it for a while now, though.

 

[American_Hobo]

Well, Sam has been hinting at it for a while now, though.

Huh? What do you mean?

 

[GoldGoblin]

 

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^ nice job

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

Huh? What do you mean?

He has said that he thinks it's time for Dr. Connors to become the Lizard.

 

[LightningFlash]

He's also mentioned Vulture and Electro.

Three villains...haha, wow....Raimi has learned, oh yah.

 

[protocida]

Kraven, Lizard, Electro, Vulture, Scorpion and Mysterio. One of them WILL Be in "Spider-man 4".

I kid you not.

 

[Venom'sDad]

^ Really.... interesting, cause I don't think either one of those villains will be in Spider-Man 4 if the film is shot as a two-parter with Spider-Man 5.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

He's also mentioned Vulture and Electro.

Three villains...haha, wow....Raimi has learned, oh yah.

Ummm, you do realise that they are only allowed to use up to 2 Villians in S-M4, right?

 

[American_Hobo]

i have really high feeling that villains in Spiderman 4 will indeed be Electro and Vulture.

 

[LightningFlash]

Ummm, you do realise that they are only allowed to use up to 2 Villians in S-M4, right?

Just saying Raimi has spoken of Lizard, Vulture and Electro.

i have really high feeling that villains in Spiderman 4 will indeed be Electro and Vulture.

I agree...I think they already messed up Dr. Connors's character with changing his occupation, lol.

 

[Jick]

it's not like they "messed" the character, like they did with Eddie and Flint. he's still Dr.Connors and he can easily become Lizard.

 

[The Slang]

Agreed, Connors character was less altered than Parkers. I dont see any reason why he cant be the lizard... but yeh, maybe he can take the lizard serum despite suggestions by actual biologists.

I had this crazy idea... not sure how yall react to it but... how bout a new villain? I know there are lots of classic spidey villains that everyone wants to see on screen, but havent you noticed that everything in the movies/new cartoon is unorigional. Part of the story should be wondering who the villain is and that cant happen with any villain from the comics. Wouldnt it be cool to have a spidey movie where people say 'I knew it was him all along' or 'I didnt see that coming'.

With todays technology and medical breakthroughs, writers should have tonnes of ideas for origional villains... Something I thought of recently (not for spiderman) was a guy who takes organs and has them implanted in himself. Some of you may have heard of the phenonema in which transplant patients recieve habits, memories and even skills from their donor. Imagine someone who had that condition that made them addicted to surgery and self mutilation, who wanted to improve themselves by taking organs.

Not to get off topic... how about you have one classic villain thats portrayed faithully and one new villain whos possibilites could be limitless.

Ive thought robin williams would make a good super villain after some of his more sinister roles, but I cant think of any character that fits him. Thats when it hit me! how about the writers actually 'create' ideas... its an old technique, but people used to make movies that way.

 

[GoldGoblin]

This would be a way to make Electro more realistic by having Alistar Smythe give Max Dillon a robotic body where the body is like a clear metal where you always see the electricity pulsing inside of it.

Infact they could use the Alistar Smythe character to give us The Sinister Six.Where it would be just a bunch of robotic bodies that he gives to ex military soldiers who got hurt while on duty.Kinda like Robocop where they would be more machine than human.

You wouldn't have to go into great detail into each character.Just show them before there hurt as a special forces squad,just show there personalities,then have them get taken out.

Then the government doesn't want to loose there soldiers so they have Alistar Smythe give them new bodies.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

Just saying Raimi has spoken of Lizard, Vulture and Electro.

Okay.

 

[GoldGoblin]

Electro should be the villain.But without him being cheesy like Sandman was,make Alistair Smythe give Max Dillion a brand new body after something happens to Max's body.

From the neck down he would be all machine(kinda like Robocop),but he would have a clear metal body so we could see electricity pulsing inside it at all times.

 

[LightningFlash]

I think Sam Raimi would use the Ultimate-look of Electro.

I just read the post of what Spider-Man 3 should've been...and it should've that sounded awesome. But I still think Venom should be in the third movie, because the only good part in the final battle was Venom stabbing Harry in the back with the glider, but I wanted some kind of "Like father, like son" sentence afterwards, seeing as how Venom knows everything, so he should've know that's how Norman died as well.

 

[Lord Doom]

Electro should be the villain.But without him being cheesy like Sandman was,make Alistair Smythe give Max Dillion a brand new body after something happens to Max's body.

From the neck down he would be all machine(kinda like Robocop),but he would have a clear metal body so we could see electricity pulsing inside it at all times.

Not sure how I feel about an all-robot Sinister Six. Maybe Spider-Slayers, but not Sinister Six.

 

[Hectorminator]

I think Sam Raimi would use the Ultimate-look of Electro.

I just read the post of what Spider-Man 3 should've been...and it should've that sounded awesome. But I still think Venom should be in the third movie, because the only good part in the final battle was Venom stabbing Harry in the back with the glider, but I wanted some kind of "Like father, like son" sentence afterwards, seeing as how Venom knows everything, so he should've know that's how Norman died as well.

HA! That would've been awesome and bad-ass of Venom to say. But for that to work on screen they should've played up the fact that Venom got all of Peter's memories, or at least the important ones, and that Venom didn't trigger his Spider-Sense because of it, which they missed an opportunity with. They showed the Spidey-Sense thing once, but the audience that didn't know about Venom already didn't really get it.

But if they had a scene where Venom said he had Pete's memories or something, that line would have been perfect.

 

[Ratcrawler]

I dunno about robot bodies. I had this idea for Rhino and Scorpion involving experimental skin grafts, steroids and exoskeletal sPinal columns derived from Octavius' designs.

Say sPidey botched some job of theirs involving arson. Burning debris falls on O'Hirn and Gargan leaving them horribly burned and paralyzed. Toomes uses these horribly injured convicts as subjects for a durable armor which permanently bonds to their skin. He afixes Gargan's back with a modified Ock tentacle outfitted with a camera, retractable blade and a tank which sPrays sulfuric acid.

O'Hirn gets a robotic neckbrace and a titanium skull-cap. Already a freak, he requests a horn be added on top, paying saervice to his nickname "Rhino".

Both are given the Goblin formula because they weren't quite strong or crazy enough.

 

[The Slang]

Hmmm, I actually like that idea of them being created with technology already introduced in the previous movies ala osbourne/octavious.

 

[Hectorminator]

Yeah, Adrian Toomes' "Vulture" suit designs should be improvements on Osborn's glider and suit.

Conners becomes the Lizard after studying the Venom symbiote.

Kraven uses witch doctor potions he found in Africa which are the base compounds for Osborn's performance enhancers. Osborn found the same ones in Africa years earlier and used them for his experiments.

Even Electro could be created with the same technology as the Sandman, and maybe Osborn's nanotechnology.

 

[Lord Doom]

Yeah, Adrian Toomes' "Vulture" suit designs should be improvements on Osborn's glider and suit.

Conners becomes the Lizard after studying the Venom symbiote.

Kraven uses witch doctor potions he found in Africa which are the base compounds for Osborn's performance enhancers. Osborn found the same ones in Africa years earlier and used them for his experiments.

Even Electro could be created with the same technology as the Sandman, and maybe Osborn's nanotechnology.

Maybe they should bring Osbnorn himself back.

 

[LightningFlash]

HA! That would've been awesome and bad-ass of Venom to say. But for that to work on screen they should've played up the fact that Venom got all of Peter's memories, or at least the important ones, and that Venom didn't trigger his Spider-Sense because of it, which they missed an opportunity with. They showed the Spidey-Sense thing once, but the audience that didn't know about Venom already didn't really get it.

But if they had a scene where Venom said he had Pete's memories or something, that line would have been perfect.

True...but he did mention to Sandman that he remembers all about Marko and his daughter and that he knows MJ is "Pete's girl". But then the Sandman's daughter is a big plothole because Peter didn't know anything about her.

 

[Ratcrawler]

Yeah. And he didn't say he "remembered" just that he knew. Maybe that was just Eddie's natural sense of journalism,, finding out about Sandman and MJ and all that on his own.

But does anybody else think that that had to be pretty much the most forced villain teamup scene ever? I mean, I can vaguely recall the Twoface/Riddler and Freeze/Ivy partnerships but those bat-films were so bad, they didn't hurt nearly as much.

Really, Venom happens to come across Sandman somewhere in NY and the latter thinks he's sPider-Man so he threatens to pummel him. Then "sPidey" grows a gigantic mouth and snarls causing Marko to toss him aside in disgust and casually walk away.

Ok, I realize you're made of sand a guy who shoots webs from his hands kicked your ass but are you really just going to walk away from that? Not even so much as a "what the hell are you?"

Then Venom, with all the charm of a used-car salesman/womanizer gets personal with information he seemed to have gotten out of nowhere.

Really Raimi? You gave us Harry and MJ cooking in the kitchen while doing the twist and Peter Parker pelvic thrusts but you couldn't find time to explain how Venom got all this info or found Sandman? I digress.

Venom then convinces Sandman to join forces with him to destroy sPider-Man. But why? Really, any of them alone could probably take him out. sPidey couldn't really beat Marko without the black suit and only then with lots of water. Plus, since sPidey thinks he's dead, he's got the element of surprise. As does Venom who sPidey doesn't even know exists and has all his powers and more.