Too Fat to be Executed. Awww....

[jaguarr]

If we boiled down all the fat inmates, we could have enough fuel to solve the energy crisis. It's science!

jag

 

[Carcharodon]

We're not. People need to stop fooling themselves.

Right. We should just stop trying to strive for being anything more than barbarians. Let's kill everybody.

 

[Goshdarn Batman]

Right. We should just stop trying to strive for being anything more than barbarians. Let's kill everybody.

Down with civilization, down with science! Where's my baby-burgers?

 

[Johann Krauss]

^

 

[KevanG]

If we boiled down all the fat inmates, we could have enough fuel to solve the energy crisis. It's science!

jag

Or enough soap to clean France!!! or at least part of it anyway (it is pretty dirty)

 

[jaguarr]

Or enough soap to clean France!!! or at least part of it anyway (it is pretty dirty)

Let's not exaggerate, okay, Kevan? Sheesh!

jag

 

[shapeshifter]

never to fat for a bullet.

 

[BlackLantern]

How about we send the guy to Fat Camp, make him feel all positive and stuff for losing weight and then execute him....?

 

[Addendum]

Remember that following an eye for an eye, everybody will end up blind.

Not true. Just those that break the law

 

[Spidey-Bat]

Eye for an eye is revenge, not justice.

 

[Addendum]

Which was done to those that broke a law, not on the law abiding citizen

 

[Schlosser85]

Eye for an eye is revenge, not justice.

It's the sentence that fits the crime.

 

[Carcharodon]

It's the sentence that fits the crime.

Death is the sentence. Not torture. That's not the purpose.

The idea of the death penalty isn't to inflict pain; the entire principle is to prevent the offender from ever repeating his crime. The infliction of pain is the aspect of revenge.

Making sure he never perpetrates the crime again is justice. It's balance.

The people saying that he should be put through as much pain as possible are missing that fundamental point of the practice. It's an excuse for them to unleash their normally hidden barbaric tendencies in a manner they think is acceptable. In reality, it simply shows that they are of a similar mind as the offender. The only difference is that they've never actually acted on those impulses, but I still find it disgusting.

 

[Addendum]

The only difference is that the offender directed their impulses on an innocent person.

 

[Carcharodon]

The only difference is that the offender directed their impulses on an innocent person.

*WHOOSH*

Over your head, apparently. Did you even read the portion about justice vs. revenge, or did you figure it wasn't important? 'Cause I'm pretty sure it was the crux of that entire post.

 

[psychocheeseman]

Eye for an eye is revenge, not justice.

as much as i love the metaphor...

It's the sentence that fits the crime.

glad someone said that. I'm pretty much sure it was Jeremy Bentham who famously used that phrase in an attempt to convince those that govern that we did not need the death sentence for the majoroity of crimes (as had previously been the case).

Death is the sentence. Not torture. That's not the purpose.

The idea of the death penalty isn't to inflict pain; the entire principle is to prevent the offender from ever repeating his crime. The infliction of pain is the aspect of revenge.

Making sure he never perpetrates the crime again is justice. It's balance.

The people saying that he should be put through as much pain as possible are missing that fundamental point of the practice. It's an excuse for them to unleash their normally hidden barbaric tendencies in a manner they think is acceptable. In reality, it simply shows that they are of a similar mind as the offender. The only difference is that they've never actually acted on those impulses, but I still find it disgusting.

Agreed. Strangely enough, one of the fundamental principles to be taken into account when punishing an offender is to also protect the offender (from mob rule and such) at the same time. I personally am against the death penalty. But where it is being done, it should be done as painlessly as possible.

 

[Mr. Credible]

Death is the sentence. Not torture. That's not the purpose.

The idea of the death penalty isn't to inflict pain; the entire principle is to prevent the offender from ever repeating his crime. The infliction of pain is the aspect of revenge.

Making sure he never perpetrates the crime again is justice. It's balance.

The people saying that he should be put through as much pain as possible are missing that fundamental point of the practice. It's an excuse for them to unleash their normally hidden barbaric tendencies in a manner they think is acceptable. In reality, it simply shows that they are of a similar mind as the offender. The only difference is that they've never actually acted on those impulses, but I still find it disgusting.

agreed, wholeheartedly.

while i wouldn't shed a tear for people like this guy being raped and murdered violently, i would never wish for it.

i would, however, prefer him and people like him to be put to death humanely, rather than him getting three square meals and excersizing every day in prison, having fun with his prison friends.

i hate that my tax dollars go to providing meals for rapists and murderers.

 

[Spidey-Bat]

i hate that my tax dollars go to providing meals for rapists and murderers.

Would you prefer more of your tax dollars go to killing them?

 

[imdaly]

Would you prefer more of your tax dollars go to killing them?

I would.

I'd rather spend $10 putting a convicted double rapist/double murderer to death than spend $5 keeping him alive, feeding him, providing shelter, etc.

 

[Spidey-Bat]

Even if that criminal received life without parole and would never set foot outside prison again and that other $5 went to something that actually impacted you like education reform?

 

[Addendum]

*WHOOSH*

Over your head, apparently. Did you even read the portion about justice vs. revenge, or did you figure it wasn't important? 'Cause I'm pretty sure it was the crux of that entire post.

I read it and am apathetic about it

 

[Carcharodon]

I read it and am apathetic about it

...and yet you posted in response? Interesting. Methinks you need to read up on the definition of "apathy."

 

[Carcharodon]

Even if that criminal received life without parole and would never set foot outside prison again and that other $5 went to something that actually impacted you like education reform?

I can clearly see where you're coming from, but the fact of the matter is that even that is far from a guarantee. The system as it exists now is unfortunately broken.

Of course, that's a rare event that one of these convicts actually gets out. So I agree with your general sentiment.

 

[Addendum]

I don't care if a rapist or murderer feels pain during their death. Perhaps they shouldn't have raped or murdered initially.

My wanting them to experience pain doesn't make me a rapist or murderer.

If others don't like that, I don't care.

My apathy doesn't prevent me from making a comment

 

[Carcharodon]

My wanting them to experience pain doesn't make me a rapist or murderer.

Nope; but to be perfectly honest, it does reveal deeper personality traits that you otherwise keep hidden (an assumption on my part, as otherwise you'd be wanting to see blood on a daily basis). It's interesting that this scenario can bring out the worst in people.

By the way, there's an apparent contradiction in your post: you say you don't care, and the next sentence says that you actually want them to feel pain.

That's not quite apathy, is it? I suppose I'm confused just where your apathy lies.

Was it with the distinction between justice and revenge?

Was it with the feelings others may have towards your own feelings?

Was it with the criminal feeling pain?