Revenge of the Fallen Transformers: ROTF User Review Thread

What did you think of TF:ROTF?

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But YOU will get banned. Cuz you're "insulting" him. But he needs it. Mods wont care about that.
 
I'd rather have Mr. Para-Normal not get banned.

Also, I need to be banned? Because I am voicing my (exaggerated) opinion in a polite and concise manner? Can't take the heat, stay out of the fire.

Also, I apologize for the '******' statement but seriously, I recommended increasing your standards a bit for anyone who "LOVES" this movie.

The funny part is that Inglorious Bastards will probably do Bay's style 100x better than Bay himself i.e. action + black comedy. However, feel free to correct me if I am wrong.
In that respect, the TF2 lovers will totally fall in love with that film....
 
Also, I need to be banned? Because I am voicing my (exaggerated) opinion in a polite and concise manner? Can't take the heat, stay out of the fire.

********. Bull....****.

Anybody who likes this movie does not deserve to watch cinema and should get himself/herself some psychiatric treatment. I would request these people never to walk into a theater again or visit this site because we do NOT tolerate such ******s.

People like Micheal Bay will be the death of all good film whether they be good action or otherwise. Instead of multi-talented super stars such as Micheal Jackson and Farah Fawcett, Micheal Bay should have been the one to die horribly and painfully.
 
Anybody who talks about mod club outside of mod club gets banned.
 
Anorexic, are you a Transformers fan, period? Because the concept of giant robots who happen to look like vehicles...that's isn't exactly "high standards" to begin with. Pot, meet kettle.

Good luck with that mindset.
 
Man am i the only person on this board who liked this movie a lot, *runs from flying rocks*:(
 
Can we just get back to topic? With user reviews and what not. We dont have to attack people with differences in opinion.

Let the administrators handle who should get banned or not.

I personally thought the movie was pretty good. Read my posts before on here on comment
 
I'd rather have Mr. Para-Normal not get banned.

Also, I need to be banned? Because I am voicing my (exaggerated) opinion in a polite and concise manner? Can't take the heat, stay out of the fire.

Also, I apologize for the '******' statement but seriously, I recommended increasing your standards a bit for anyone who "LOVES" this movie.

Okay now that is some bull. People can like more than one type of movie. Just because people appreciate one does not mean that they cannot appreciate the other. Transformers 2 does not equal to Pulp Fiction or Apocalypse Now or Taxi Driver or Fight Club but I enjoy them all just the same. A movie can be brilliantly made and still be boring just as easily as a movie can be horribly shallow and still be as entertaining as any circus or stunt show at Six Flags. Increase my standards? Broaden your mind.
 
For the people who didnt like the film, ya know theres a thread for sequels?? Why dont you go there and talk about the stuff you guys would like see be done OVER THERE.
 
Once more I apologize for the '******' comment. It was rather Micheal Bay-ish of me.
Also, Transformers G1 was essentially a less heavy handed version of Star Trek in terms of tone. It had plenty of spirit and character. "I" saw none of it in TF2.

Perhaps my fellow Hypesters will clear the fog of doubt for me.

Let's start a real discussion now.
 
I was never a Transformers fan.

Didn't own one toy- didn't watch one show. I was a Batman, Superman, Ghostbusters, Ninja Turtles kid growing up.

This stuff didn't interest me.

My buddy one night convinced me to watch Transformers. I actually loved it. It was great. Great action, FX, cast, funny, fun, exciting, etc.

But then there was this movie.

The elements that worked the best in the first film:
Sam being a normal kid pulled into an intergalactic conflict...amazing things happening to ordinary people...this was all absent from the film.

The best parts of this movie were those with Sam in college, etc...and it took place for about twelve minutes in the movie. They could have really played with the aspect of him losing his mind at school, and how people reacted...it was all good stuff.

The story became convoluted and bogged down with a lot of exposition and explaining robot histories....I understand this is crucial to the story- but couldn't they have simplified it a little? The old robot was really bad...like- almost laughable. The action scenes looked great for the most part- but got messy and loud...and dragged out past the point of interest....all the robots seem to look alike.

For the whole- I enjoyed it. I just feel like it lost a lot of the magic from the first film.

-R
 
The elements that worked the best in the first film:
Sam being a normal kid pulled into an intergalactic conflict...amazing things happening to ordinary people...this was all absent from the film.

What movie did you watch?

I mean, what do you call a college kid being possessed by a piece of alien robot technology, going on a quest for The Matrix of Leadership to save your deceased alien robot friend, and eventually dying, having a vision of robot Heaven, then coming back to life?
 
if the twins weren't in this movie i would have definitely given this a 9/10.

i saw it in imax, i was blown away...not only were the effects amazing but the sound fx were incredible...you don't usually hear people honor that too often...but the sound fx were insane. to anyone who liked part 1 and wanted to see more of that movie...it is the ultimate sequel. the best sequel ever made? no...obviously there were things script and story wise that took the sense of almost-realism of the first movie down a notch...the comedy was about the same...acting as well...but i didn't want the TDK of Transformers...I wanted a kick-ass, blow $#!+ up sequel that didn't let up...and it didn't...closure on a few characters and the further development of their stories was missing...but in the end...i walked out of that imax theater feeling satisfied...like getting off a good ride/or rollercoaster at an amusement park...the protective bars come up and you get out of your seat feeling a little lightheaded thinking..."Damn! That was awesome!" and it was.

8.5/10
 
My Spoiler-Heavy Review:

Big, loud, popcorny fun but also feels too tumescent for it's own good, Michael Bay's sequel to the hit "Transformers" movie works in the first 60 minutes than starts to fizzle out before gaining steam again in the third and final act.

I'm going to start with what I didn't like in the film:

1. The Fallen- A fearsome-looking villain but yet, like Darth Maul in "Episode I", he is made up to be a puissant foe but yet in the end he is wasted like a *****.

2. The Twins- Annoying, stereotypical, racist, and objectionably offensive, Skidz and Mudflap are the Jar Jar Binks of the franchise. While Jar Jar did sound to be a bit Jamaican, least he wasn't as scurrilous as these two. Both are big-lipped, big-earred, ebonics/slang-slurring Autobots whom can't read and one has a gold tooth. They also like to say "*****-ass" and "punk-ass" alot and everytime they were onscreen I desperately wanted a Decepticon to blow them away or Jazz to return. Least Jazz didn't resort to noisome behavior like these two.

3. Wheelie- An Italian-speaking Decepticon whom talks like he could be a wiseguy from "Goodfellas" but sounds like a mix of Joe Pesci, Joe Pantialano, and Steve Buscemi. He's funny for awhile but then his welcome wears thin.

4. Meagan Fox- Michael Bay treats her as a goddess and YES she is beautiful beyond words but every scene with her Bay vamps up her beauty to a higher level to exonerate her bad acting. She's treated like a music-video nympho strutting around in mid-drift shirts and Daisy Duke cut-off jeans. While she is sumptuously gorgeous, she has got along way to go to get to Angelina Jolie.

5. The Autobots and Decepticons- Once again Micahel Bay doesn't know how to handle multiple robots onscreen, the same as the "X-Men" movies. The problem with screenwriters and directors nowadays can't seem to juggle multiple storylines and characters. While the movie tries their hardest to fudge it's way around it but ultimately fails because Ratchet and Arcee only get two lines, Ravage, Soundwave, and Devastator get a few scenes, and then there are mechs onscreen that you don't know who's side they are on and what they are fighting for. War has many faces, both good and bad, but until Bay showed the imprinted markings on the bodies of a cement truck or bulldozer, I was like, "Ok, who are you for?" It just seems Bay is more interested in prevaricating around the Who's Who of the lore than to really establish everyone and their reason for being in the movie.

6. The runtime. At 2 hours and 30 minutes, the movie drags once it reaches it's middle. This is the movie's biggest hamstring. Twenty or thirty-minutes or so could've been trimmed from this movie and it still would've been wildly entertaining and enjoyable.


What Did Work:

1. Starscream and Megatron- Like the cartoon show, we finally get to see the sniveling coward Starscream trying desperately to please Megatron; groveling at his mechanical feet and the movie treats them, like the show, as almost a married couple. Megatron is the abusive, tyrannical husband and Starscream is the submissive wife. The original 80's-90's "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles" show did this same formula with Krang and Shredder.

2. Shia Lebeouf- Shia is the bread and butter of this movie. Along with Peter Cullen's reprised masterful work voicing/narrating as Optimus Prime, Shia is the everyday ordinary hero. You care what he'll do, you care where he'll go, it's just a shame he's given a dumb, boondoggled plot to work with.

3. Optimus Prime- Prime kicks major ass in this movie and he as I said works is the thread that holds this movie from unraveling. It's great to have Peter Cullen back who voiced Prime in the first movie and the original show and to have Frank Welker known for his voicework as Megatron in the original show, Slimer and Ray in "The Ghostbusters" cartoon, and Kermit the Frog in "Muppet Babies" back voicing Soundwave.

4. Michael Bay's Love For Blowing **** Up- Bay crafts pretty action-set-pieces and each proton-gun shot, each fireball hurled, each punch and jab thrown you literally feel you're there. I'm sure on IMAX the experience is tumefied to a greater level.

5. John Turturro- A pesky annoyance in the first movie, here he is actually tolerable and I'm glad now that Bay decided to bring him back.

All in all, it's pretty entertaining film, it's just I thought in terms of quality, the first movie is alot better.

I give it a 2 out of 4.
 
Beast Wars didn't have any human characters to worry about, which is an important part of the TF universe (the G1's, at least). Not only that, but ROTF is 2.5 hours(ish) and Beast Wars spans over like 7 seasons of 22 minute episodes each. Obviously we're going to get to know those characters better.

I'm not saying ROTF wouldn't benefit from more depth, I just think Beast Wars is a bad example.

Beast Wars is arguably the best transformers series out there. It was very successful money wise and critic wise. Which i think the people that dont like TF2 want. So to me it was a good example. And even if it had humans. Humans shouldnt always be the vital role its called transformers. They should focus more on Developing the bots characters and making them seem "real" As much as i liked both films the story should be deeper. Perhaps a little darker.
 
Man am i the only person on this board who liked this movie a lot, *runs from flying rocks*:(

Nope, I thought it was great, too. :woot:

Beast Wars is arguably the best transformers series out there. It was very successful money wise and critic wise. Which i think the people that dont like TF2 want. So to me it was a good example. And even if it had humans. Humans shouldnt always be the vital role its called transformers. They should focus more on Developing the bots characters and making them seem "real" As much as i liked both films the story should be deeper. Perhaps a little darker.


I didn't say it wasn't arguably the best. I'm a huge Beast Wars fan, but believe it or not us geeks aren't the only people who go see movies...everyday people who know next to nothing about Transformers outside Bay's universe go see them too!

And those people need human characters to relate to and connect to. I guarantee you if they made it all about the Transformers and had no humans to anchor the characters/story, it wouldn't be nearly as successful as it has been. You need the humans and their emotional conflicts to both ground the story in a hyper-reality and actually be able to put ourselves in that situation, which is important.

And what I was saying about Beast Wars being a bad example was that it's an ongoing series with multiple episodes. ROTF doesn't have 7 seasons for us to get to know the characters; it has 2.5 hours. Big difference.
 
We need humans i know that. Were on earth of course theres gonna be a human character. All im saying is is that now we know the conflict between the humans and transformers. And there will be conflict there. All im saying is that Sam cant always be a focal point in the film. We know more about Sam and his family then we do about the autobots as a whole. Transformers dont just transformer fight and transformer like little henchmen. Autobots are like a family as well since the original series its been like that. And i just havent ffelt that yet. Which i feel is lacking in the film series. The audience needs to feel as if theyre "real" as well.

As for Beast Wars. Yes they only had a hour an hour to tell an episode or story but they accomplished alot in each and every episode, we learned more and more about them. And the story was always flowing.

If Beast Wars could do that in 3 seasons of 30 min. episodes im sure Bay and his writers could do that with a whole trilogy of 2.25 hour films. So i think it was a good example. Cause those transformers didnt belong there, just like film series. And the Autobots were pretty much finding a way home and protecting earths existence at the same time similar to the TF2.

In Beast Wars the characters werent just Robots that transformers and fought, they had personalities and what not. Which we need in the film series.

Im not saying its a great example but im saying Beast Wars got it right with pretty much everything. Story, etc. And maybe the film series could use some success like it all around.
 
Personally, I thought it was superb, and cant wait to see it again to be honest.
 
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