Revenge of the Fallen The official Transformers:Revenge Of The Fallen movie critics review thread

Funny thing is, Batman Dark Knight is really good, but TDK did not have much Special Effects, and action is certainly much much less/different than these transformer's.

They just DON'T get it! A movie CAN also be great when it's Action-packed NONSTOP!!!

It needs NO masterpiece plot or acting!

The thing is, TDK wasn't packed with action. The director used smaller visual effects houses like Double Negative, BUF and Gentle Giant studios for special effects shots to keep costs down. A movie like TF-2 demands a high-quality CGI house like ILM or WETA and a high budget.

The thing is, a movie with lots of action and little else rings hollow. I can't remember a recent movie that was great solely because of the action factor.
 
Yikes, another negative review that doesn't mince words from murmur.com....

When the dust settles and the solar flares fade away, two of the heaviest of heavy hitters in this 2009 blockbuster season--Star Trek and Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen--will linger on as brothers at odds. Though both films were scripted by the writing team of Kurtzman and Orci, you might walk away demanding to see the pedigree papers. Here are two vastly disparate genre films that don't even belong in the same class, let alone the same IMDB page. Helmed by J.J. Abrams, Star Trek is a thoughtful, rollicking adventure film. It's a joyous movie experience filled with top notch performances and dazzling effects, all stemming from cues from that tight, inventive screenplay. As for Transformers? It's a parade of poor choices, all culminating in the latest salvo in Michael Bay's campaign of stupid. It's devastatingly easy to slip into hyperbole when describing this tedious sequel, especially relative to the writers' previous effort, and even in comparison to the first film in the franchise.
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I left the screening feeling seventeen shades of bad for Orci and Kurtzman. Not because they wrote a bad script, or that they wrote a good script ruined by a misguided director, but because I honestly have no idea what they even wrote. It all reeks of foul play, and there's no knowing who's responsible by simply watching the movie. We're pretty sure they had little or nothing to do with the clanking Jar Jar Binks twins. But was it their call to cut away to a shot of dogs humping each other in the midst of an action sequence? I'd love to get my hands on the original script, just to see how much of this was meddling on Michael Bay's part. Regardless of whether it was his idea or not, I could sense the visceral, pornographic pleasure he took in destroying a university library. "**** books"!
 
Sarge,

It's barely mentioned. Again, we get endless assaults on Michael Bay whenever he makes a film. Here's a novel idea...if you know the kind of films he makes and it turns you off, don't freaking go. No one is making you!

For the love of God, everyone, including me loved The Hangover this year. Is the humor in that film any more different than the humor in this film? And yet, one gets celebrated because it's in an R movie and the other gets destroyed because its in a PG13 film not really aimed at kids if you know the damn director.
 
For the love of God, everyone, including me loved The Hangover this year. Is the humor in that film any more different than the humor in this film? And yet, one gets celebrated because it's in an R movie and the other gets destroyed because its in a PG13 film not really aimed at kids if you know the damn director.

Sorry to butt in, but are you serious? :huh:
 
If you hire Michael Bay, you don't hire him to do a film that ultimately the bean counters want to aim at kids. I mean, seriously, have any of these knuckleheads who run the studios seen his films?

Aesthetically, yes, he may be suited for Transformers but if all you care about is selling toys than making a good, MORAL film for kids, you don't hire freaking Michael Bay.
 
Why would I not? The humor is the same. Why celebrate one but not the other?
 
And another thing...if you want to take some one to task, have at Paramount. They were the knuckleheads who greenlit this sequel only a few months after the first film...knowing that a writers strike was upon the industry.

They gave basically Bay and the writers no time to do this film justice. A year and 10 months is not enough for something of this scope. Period. It should've taken them at least two and a half years to get this film to gel.
 
If Indiana Jones can get 76% on the Tomatometer and everyone on the internet can say it sucks, then why is it that Transformers 2 can't be good if it gets 21% on the Tomatometer? Are critics somehow more credible when they give out negative reviews than they are with positive ones?
 
Because the Hangover didn't suck.

The Hangover is a hard R-rated comedy about guys who go on a bender through Vegas and are trying to re-trace their steps and find their friends.

Transformers is SUPPOSED to be about a robot war between Autobots and Decepticons on Earth.

In a movie like Transformers, that type of comedy is out of place. But more than out of place its executed in a mind-numbingly annoying fashion.

Take the pot brownie bender ****. People don't act like that when they are high.
 
Hangover takes a s*** on ROTF no questions
In fact the last 3rd of TS kicked ROTF....but ROTF was still better overall
 
Because the Hangover didn't suck.

The Hangover is a hard R-rated comedy about guys who go on a bender through Vegas and are trying to re-trace their steps and find their friends.

Transformers is SUPPOSED to be about a robot war between Autobots and Decepticons on Earth.

In a movie like Transformers, that type of comedy is out of place. But more than out of place its executed in a mind-numbingly annoying fashion.

Take the pot brownie bender ****. People don't act like that when they are high.

Yes, yes and yes.

That bothered me so much. Obviously Orci and Kurtzman don't have much experience with weed can't say Michael Bay does either from the way he was told that woman how to act when "intoxicated".
 
Hangover takes a s*** on ROTF no questions
In fact the last 3rd of TS kicked ROTF....but ROTF was still better overall

I never thought I'd say this........considering that I used to run around bragging that this movie would be as epic as Empire Strikes Back .........but The Hangover destroyed this movie......... it didn't pretend to be something it wasn't.
 
Sarge,

It's barely mentioned. Again, we get endless assaults on Michael Bay whenever he makes a film. Here's a novel idea...if you know the kind of films he makes and it turns you off, don't freaking go. No one is making you!

For the love of God, everyone, including me loved The Hangover this year. Is the humor in that film any more different than the humor in this film? And yet, one gets celebrated because it's in an R movie and the other gets destroyed because its in a PG13 film not really aimed at kids if you know the damn director.

The Hangover is in the adult comedy genre! Transformers is not!

The problem is we gave him a chance for the first one. Many of us thought better of him after seeing he could put together such a great flick without over doing the nonsense..........and the BAM.........he hits us with this garbage completely reverting back to his old frat boy antics.

I happen to think Spieldberg was less hands on with this one this time around.
 
I think someone mentioned it earlier, but many of the problems may be due to the writers strike. I am not the biggest fan of Orci and Kurtzman. Their writing is moderate at best. ST was good because of the cast and direction, not the script. I think Spielberg shouldn't be given a free pass either.
 
I think someone mentioned it earlier, but many of the problems may be due to the writers strike. I am not the biggest fan of Orci and Kurtzman. Their writing is moderate at best. ST was good because of the cast and direction, not the script. I think Spielberg shouldn't be given a free pass either.

ST moderated the hip, adult humor. They didn't flood you out with it. It had chemistry. And it kept focus and development on the characters very well, given that it too had so many different pieces.
 
I think the critics have been overly harsh on some of the blockbusters this year, and TF2 is no exception, I honestly just didnt find that bad some of the things critics are pointing out.

I loved Star Trek also, but it wasnt as good as the critics made out, IMO the critics have totally dropped the ball this year. And I used to agree with them so much.
 
Again, we get endless assaults on Michael Bay whenever he makes a film.

For good reason. I can't remember any movie I've liked that he's directed, save for The Rock and parts of Pearl Harbor. The rest of it is either mediocre or jaw droppingly-bad.
 
I love Almost ALL of Michael Bay's movies! Mindless Action movies are not that bad, if you don't pretend to be an OLD adult/critic when you watch it.
 
Why Jamon? Because they don't worship at the altar of your hero, Michael Bay?
 
I love Almost ALL of Michael Bay's movies! Mindless Action movies are not that bad, if you don't pretend to be an OLD adult/critic when you watch it.
ok this has been pissing me off. People need to stop saying that you're thinking "like an old critic" if they didnt like the film.
I enjoy mindless action, I liked TF1 but still imo ROTF was bad
Just because someone doesnt like the film doesnt mean they're being "an OLD adult/critic when you watch it."
 

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