Two Culprit Arrested In The Black Stripper Rape

[pHat_aL]

Finally. Let there be justice.

 

[Sarge 2.0]

This has to be the most vauge thread title on the Hype yet. And there's no article posted.

 

[DOG LIPS]

I'll just fill in a story and facts with MY MIND!

 

[Sarge 2.0]

Seriously..."The Black Stripper Rape"?

You can't get any more specific than that?

 

[pHat_aL]

LOL! Here--

DURHAM, N.C. - Two Duke University lacrosse players were arrested on rape charges Tuesday in a scandal that has rocked one of America's elite campuses and raised explosive questions of race, class and the privileged status of college athletes.

The two players — both graduates of Northern prep schools — were promptly booked and released on bail. District Attorney Mike Nifong said a third player could also be arrested but has yet to be firmly identified.

"It is important that we not only bring the assailants to justice, but also that we lift the cloud of suspicion from those team members who were not involved in the assault," Nifong said.

Lawyers for the two men bitterly assailed the district attorney for bringing the charges. Other attorneys for Duke's lacrosse players said the two were not even present at the time the rape is alleged to have occurred.

Reade Seligmann, 20, of Essex Fells, N.J., and Collin Finnerty, 19, of Garden City, N.Y., are accused of attacking a stripper at a team party at an off-campus house on the night of March 13. They were charged with first-degree rape, sexual offense and kidnapping and were released on $400,000 bail each.

The district attorney would not say what evidence led to the charges. But Seligmann's attorney, Kirk Osborn, said: "Apparently it was a photographic identification. And we all know how reliable that is."

Seligmann is "absolutely innocent," Osborn said. "He's doing great." Finnerty's attorney, Bill Cotter, said: "The next jury will hear the entire story, which includes our evidence, and we're confident that these young men will be found to be innocent."

The case has raised racial tensions and heightened the long-standing town-vs.-gown antagonism between Duke students and middle class, racially mixed Durham. The accuser is black, and all but one of the 47 lacrosse team members are white.

Well before the scandal, the nationally ranked team had a reputation for a swaggering sense of entitlement and boorish frat-boy behavior that included public intoxication and public urination. After the scandal broke, the university announced an investigation into whether it put up with such behavior for too long.

The case has led to the resignation of the coach and the cancellation of the rest of the season.

"Many lives have been touched by this case," said Duke President Richard Brodhead in a statement. "It has brought pain and suffering to all involved, and it deeply challenges our ability to balance judgment with compassion. As the legal process unfolds, we must hope that it brings a speedy resolution and that the truth of the events is fully clarified."

The university would not comment specifically on any disciplinary action taken against the two men but said it is Duke practice to suspend students charged with a felony.

Both players are products of wealthy New York City suburbs and all-male Roman Catholic prep schools. Finnerty attended Long Island's Chaminade High School, where 99 percent of the students go on to college. Seligmann went to the exclusive Delbarton School, a lacrosse powerhouse in Morristown, N.J.

"It is our hope and our conviction that the full truth of all that happened that night will vindicate Reade of these charges," Delbarton's headmaster, the Rev. Luke L. Travers, said in a statement.

Neither Seligmann and Finnerty was among the Duke team members arrested in recent years for such offenses as underage drinking and public urination.

Finnerty, however, was charged in Washington with assault after a man told police in November that Finnerty and two friends punched him and called him "gay and other derogatory names." Finnerty agreed to community service.

Seligmann, a 6-foot-1 sophomore, and Finnerty, a 6-foot-3 sophomore, were in handcuffs when they stepped out of a police cruiser at the Durham County Jail early Tuesday. Their early-morning surrenders were arranged as part of a deal with Nifong in which they were bailed out of jail in a matter of hours.

At a brief court appearance, Finnerty stood in jacket and tie as a May 15 date was set for the next hearing in the case. Seligmann waived his right to appear in court and was represented by one of his lawyers.

The district attorney has said that the woman making the allegations, a 27-year-old student and mother of two, was attacked by three men. In a statement, Nifong said he hopes to charge a third person, "but the evidence available to me at this time does not permit that. Investigation into the identity of the third assailant will continue in the hope that he can also be identified with certainty."

Attorneys for the players have demanded Nifong drop the investigation, arguing that DNA tests failed to connect any of the team members to the alleged rape. They have also charged that the accuser was intoxicated and injured when she showed up for the party.

"This is probably the worst miscarriage of justice I've seen in 34 years of practice," said another Seligmann lawyer, Julian Mack.

Bill Thomas, a lawyer for a player who has not been charged, said that one of the two men under indictment did not even attend the party. He would specify which one, saying only that "multiple witnesses and a commercial transaction" would provide an alibi.

According to a filing made by the district attorney's office, the residents of the house where the party took place told police that Seligmann was one of six players who did not attend the party.

Another attorney, Robert Ekstrand, who represents dozens of players, said neither Seligmann nor Finnerty was at the party "at the relevant time."

The indictment represents "a horrible circumstance and a product of a rush to judgment," Ekstrand said.

 

[pHat_aL]

From the evidence provided, either the whites are racists, or the black female stripper. We'll soon see.

 

[sinewave]

one of them looks like he's 12.

 

[pHat_aL]

the skinny one, huh? lmao

 

[GoldenAgeHero]

black sripper rape? you're a freakin a$$hole!

 

[pHat_aL]

Then was she white?

 

[Sarge 2.0]

black sripper rape? you're a freakin a$$hole!

...

What?

 

[GoldenAgeHero]

i dont see why he had to say she was black? just say she was a stripper. something about the title rubbed me the wrong way, and im somewhat offended by it.

 

[Spider-Bite]

does anybody think these kids might be innocent? I do. Something clearly happened to this woman, but I have a feeling it was before she got there. there are pictures proving she was already bruised and beaten before she got there. DNA only contradicts her accusation, and she was rescently arrested for prostitution. Prostitutes are abused all of the time by customers and their pimps. I suspect that she wants out of her current prostitution ring, and she found a way. Accuse these guys of rape and get a spotlight on her, so her pimp can't touch her now. Not only does it solve her problem but it allows her somebody to take her anger out on.

 

[DOG LIPS]

does anybody think these kids might be innocent? I do. Something clearly happened to this woman, but I have a feeling it was before she got there. there are pictures proving she was already bruised and beaten before she got there. DNA only contradicts her accusation, and she was rescently arrested for prostitution. Prostitutes are abused all of the time by customers and their pimps. I suspect that she wants out of her current prostitution ring, and she found a way. Accuse these guys of rape and get a spotlight on her, so her pimp can't touch her now. Not only does it solve her problem but it allows her somebody to take her anger out on.

You may be right, Detective Batch.

 

[Sarge 2.0]

i dont see why he had to say she was black? just say she was a stripper. something about the title rubbed me the wrong way, and im somewhat offended by it.

Because he identified her race in a mildly non PC manner?


Looks like someone caught feelings.

 

[pHat_aL]

does anybody think these kids might be innocent? I do. Something clearly happened to this woman, but I have a feeling it was before she got there. there are pictures proving she was already bruised and beaten before she got there. DNA only contradicts her accusation, and she was rescently arrested for prostitution. Prostitutes are abused all of the time by customers and their pimps. I suspect that she wants out of her current prostitution ring, and she found a way. Accuse these guys of rape and get a spotlight on her, so her pimp can't touch her now. Not only does it solve her problem but it allows her somebody to take her anger out on.

Nah, they aint innocent to me. Just by looking at their photos I know this. And the fact that one of em had to serve community service cause he called gay people f*gs and many other derogatory names

 

[patrickbateman]

some one get the punisher

 

[Spider-Bite]

Nah, they aint innocent to me. Just by looking at their photos I know this. And the fact that one of em had to serve community service cause he called gay people f*gs and many other derogatory names

So you can tell they are guilty by the way their faces look in their photos? what is it? the white skin? the blonde hair?

Now I would never approve of their choice to make prejudiced satements about somebody based on their sexual orientation, but that is by no menas evidence that they committed rape. It's a religous school. I'm sure many people there are biggets. But that is not evidence of rape, and it wouldn't even be admitted into court.

I would totally hate to have you for a juror. "look at the way he's got his hair done. Only a guilty person would do that."

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Jew guys hear about that White teacher that had sex with her students?

 

[NHawk19]

does anybody think these kids might be innocent? I do. Something clearly happened to this woman, but I have a feeling it was before she got there. there are pictures proving she was already bruised and beaten before she got there. DNA only contradicts her accusation, and she was rescently arrested for prostitution. Prostitutes are abused all of the time by customers and their pimps. I suspect that she wants out of her current prostitution ring, and she found a way. Accuse these guys of rape and get a spotlight on her, so her pimp can't touch her now. Not only does it solve her problem but it allows her somebody to take her anger out on.

 

[StorminNorman]

Nah, they aint innocent to me. Just by looking at their photos I know this. And the fact that one of em had to serve community service cause he called gay people f*gs and many other derogatory names

Why does America need a justice system when we have people like you? Are these young men innocent or guilty? I do not know. I do know however, that with what I have heard (the victims testimoney indicating ALL the white players on the team - not just these two boys) and the lack of DNA evidence, I dont think the evidence is with the Prosecution.

 

[Spider-Nerd]

it sounds like this whole thing has been blown out of proportion. Sounds like there was a college party, and some drunkass athletes got a little too touchy/feely with some cracked out stripper.

 

[Darthphere]

Nah, they aint innocent to me. Just by looking at their photos I know this. And the fact that one of em had to serve community service cause he called gay people f*gs and many other derogatory names

Wow, you should work for the Bush administration.

 

[Stringer]

Just because shes a stripper and may be on drugs doesnt mean she wasnt raped, and doesnt make it any less significant if she was raped.

 

[Spider-Nerd]

Just because shes a stripper and may be on drugs doesnt mean she wasnt raped, and doesnt make it any less significant if she was raped.

touche, but ya gotta remember, we're not trying to prove that they did not rape her, we're trying to prove that they did.