World Ultimate Spider-Man animated series discussion thread

[Spidey220987]

I hate when anyone uses the phrase "only a true fan". It comes off as ignorant and arrogant. When people use that phrase its usually by people who don't know what they are talking about.

THIS! It reminds me of Internet argument bingo - "what the fans want" , like 1 person can represent an entire fanbase lol. Fans of the same character or genre can like things interpreted differently.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

I am still scratching my head trying to figure out how what you just said relates to what I said before.

Basically: I don't support $#%^, demand quality

By the way, I love Aunt May to be "80 years old frail hag on the verge of dying every 10 issues" as long as they give me great moments like this:

Spoiler

Great moments indeed, but I believe we can have greats without her being frail, like JMS proved

I also have a couple of questions to pose to all these Ultimate Universe fans: if Ultimate spider-man is so damn hot why did it have to be re-launched after only 133 issues? Why doesn’t it sell even half the Amazing Spider-man these days? huh?

Ultimatum, and a death that was retconned
Can't help about sales

And apart from Venom and his back story which was handled better by Bendis (and was handled even better by the Spectacular Spider-man) what aspect of the spider-man mythos has been done better by the Ultimate spider-man?

Mary Jane not being a model, I hate that in her

 

[WolfCypher]

Hmm...yeah, MJ having a more down-to-earth goal. Wanting to be a journalist instead of a model was great.

 

[mehrabix]

Hmm...yeah, MJ having a more down-to-earth goal. Wanting to be a journalist instead of a model was great.

yeah! now she is more like the Lois Lane and less like the Mary Jane we know!
seriously, what is wrong with MJ wanting to be a model, or actress?

 

[Lunar_Wolf]

thanks for the advice bro.
I just expressed my views so dont worry about me ending up on the hate train
besides, I' d rather get on that train when a crappy show like Ultimate Spider-Man comes around than praise mediocrity
by the way, I bet I am older than you and probably most of the people who post here!

Do tell!

 

[Sebastos]

The way MJ is in the show is how she was in the Ultimate Spider-Man comics.

 

[SoNicRaDiATioN]

I know that we're getting a season 2, but I'd be curious to know what the ratings are for this. Opinions are one thing but the proof is in the ratings.

I personally love MJ wanting to be a model, or actress. The journalism angle is not MJ in my book.

I like aspects of the show, it's just so damn hit and miss. It really illustrates the flawed conception. I actually wonder at times if Marvel is purposely trying to destroy the flagship. Evidence the last few years suggests that they are. First in Amazing, then Ultimate, and now this.

At this point I'm really thankful for Sony. You know they will do everything possible to keep Spidey's rights.

 

[mehrabix]

May eternal damnation befall the idiots who canceled our beloved Spectacular Spider-man for this drivel. amen

 

[mehrabix]

The way MJ is in the show is how she was in the Ultimate Spider-Man comics.

so what?!

 

[Savage]

so what?!

This.

yeah! now she is more like the Lois Lane and less like the Mary Jane we know!
seriously, what is wrong with MJ wanting to be a model, or actress?

The Mary Jane we know also happens to be Ultimate Mary Jane. So there is a precedent for this.

 

[spida-man]

so today at C2E2 they showed us episode 9, which won't air for a month, and it was written by Bendis and i gotta say, any doubts i had about this show flew out of the window.

HFS that episode was effin' AMAZING!!!! I can't wait for u all to see it. the crowd reaction was great..i literally cried laughing....

past 3 episodes were god and decent,..but this episode knocked it out the park!

the episode was about Spider-Man and Wolverine switching bodies (which was hilarious in the original comic) and it was just epic. This episode had a PERFECT mix of action and humor AND Shield was hardly involved in the episode at all. u see the team at the school but they don't go out and do anything else.

OMFG i can''t express how awesome this is!

You guys need to keep giving this show a chance...i'm telling u, episode 9 with Wolverine was EPIC!

and yes steven blum was the voice

 

[Spidey_62]

so today at C2E2 they showed us episode 9, which won't air for a month, and it was written by Bendis and i gotta say, any doubts i had about this show flew out of the window.

HFS that episode was effin' AMAZING!!!! I can't wait for u all to see it. the crowd reaction was great..i literally cried laughing....

past 3 episodes were god and decent,..but this episode knocked it out the park!

the episode was about Spider-Man and Wolverine switching bodies (which was hilarious in the original comic) and it was just epic. This episode had a PERFECT mix of action and humor AND Shield was hardly involved in the episode at all. u see the team at the school but they don't go out and do anything else.

OMFG i can''t express how awesome this is!

You guys need to keep giving this show a chance...i'm telling u, episode 9 with Wolverine was EPIC!

and yes steven blum was the voice

That's encouraging to hear, they said Bendis' episodes were pretty much completely left untouched. Awesome to see he wrote the Wolverine episode and Steve Blum is Wolvie.

Who was the villain in this episode?

 

[Sebastos]

so what?!

Nothing. I'm fine with however MJ is portrayed, it's just evident they went the Ultimate route.

 

[Venom75]

They should have MJ wanna be a stripper. Now that...would shake things up.

 

[mehrabix]

This.


The Mary Jane we know also happens to be Ultimate Mary Jane. So there is a precedent for this.

But remember that USM will always have to follow the 616 Amazing Spider-man because after all it is the real thing!
USM is and will always be a knock-off​

 

[mehrabix]

so today at C2E2 they showed us episode 9, which won't air for a month, and it was written by Bendis and i gotta say, any doubts i had about this show flew out of the window.

HFS that episode was effin' AMAZING!!!! I can't wait for u all to see it. the crowd reaction was great..i literally cried laughing....

past 3 episodes were god and decent,..but this episode knocked it out the park!

the episode was about Spider-Man and Wolverine switching bodies (which was hilarious in the original comic) and it was just epic. This episode had a PERFECT mix of action and humor AND Shield was hardly involved in the episode at all. u see the team at the school but they don't go out and do anything else.

OMFG i can''t express how awesome this is!

You guys need to keep giving this show a chance...i'm telling u, episode 9 with Wolverine was EPIC!

and yes steven blum was the voice

You call it awesome just because it had "perfect mix of action and humor"?
but a great spider-man cartoon should also be mature, emotional, relatable, have good drama, spot-on characterizations, and respect the continuity (Spectacular Spider-man has all these in each and every one of its episodes)

I guess this series has lowered our expectations so very much that when an episode has good humor and action we call it "awesome".

But I have one question to ask you "was there any sign of the Hulk-Goblin or Skanky Ultimate Gwen in that episode you watched?"
because if there was then I am officially done with this series.​

 

[JoeyConQueso]

Please tell him yes...

 

[Spider-Aziz]

so today at C2E2 they showed us episode 9, which won't air for a month, and it was written by Bendis and i gotta say, any doubts i had about this show flew out of the window.

Did watching it confuse you a little? There didn't feel much of a need to watch what is to come before it to fully appreciate it?

 

[mehrabix]

Please tell him yes...

yes please do cause my time is very valuable to me and I dont wanna waste it watching this garbage

 

[mehrabix]

Did watching it confuse you a little? There didn't feel much of a need to watch what is to come before it to fully appreciate it?

I bet he had no problem of that sort because unlike the Spectacular Spider-Man (in which every episode was related to another and the continuity was so tight), this series has almost no continuity had almost no continuity. I mean you will probably be able to watch some episode from season 4 and still understand what is going on.

 

[Savage]

But remember that USM will always have to follow the 616 Amazing Spider-man because after all it is the real thing!
USM is and will always be a knock-off​

Amazing Spider-man may have came out first but that doesn't mean Ultimate Spider-man has to follow it. If it did that there would be no point to reading it. The whole point is that it's a different take on the history of Spider-man. I know Marvel fans aren't accustomed to the whole multiple-earth thing but Ultimate is not some knock-off comic from China that spells all the names wrong to avoid copyright infringement. The Ultimate Universe has grown to be able to support itself based on it's own well done storytelling and creative reinventions. Hell, it's why Ultimate Spider-man got his own tv show.

Considering USM a knockoff is like considering every movie and TV show made about Spider-man a knockoff. They make just as many changes to the mythos. If that's the case then the only place to find the "real" Spider-man is in the pages of The Amazing Spider-man. Anything else will just be a disappointment.

 

[Savage]

You call it awesome just because it had "perfect mix of action and humor"?
but a great spider-man cartoon should also be mature, emotional, relatable, have good drama, spot-on characterizations, and respect the continuity (Spectacular Spider-man has all these in each and every one of its episodes)

I guess this series has lowered our expectations so very much that when an episode has good humor and action we call it "awesome".

But I have one question to ask you "was there any sign of the Hulk-Goblin or Skanky Ultimate Gwen in that episode you watched?"
because if there was then I am officially done with this series.​

lol Yes Hulk-Goblin will be appearing and I think so will Heavy Metal Gwen (favorite version of the character, btw). You can return to your retirement home and let us whippersnappers enjoy new interpretations of characters now.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

lol Yes Hulk-Goblin will be appearing and I think so will Heavy Metal Gwen (favorite version of the character, btw). You can return to your retirement home and let us whippersnappers enjoy new interpretations of characters now.

I hope they don't Hulk-Out Norman

 

[Savage]

I thought that was confirmed forever ago. I'll look it up. I know I've read it somewhere.

 

[Webzpinner]

yeah! now she is more like the Lois Lane and less like the Mary Jane we know!
seriously, what is wrong with MJ wanting to be a model, or actress?

I've never liked MJ being "super model" or "hit TV actress". It's makes Spider-Man less realistic. Not saying a nerd can't get a smokin'-hot babe, but with all the paparazzi and the microscope that even mid-level celebrities get, Peter jumping in and out of the skylight was bound to be seen at some point.

Also, while I'm sure it's not 100% accurate (since, heck, even some pornstars are in MENSA), models and actresses are generally not that bright (Megan Fox, anyone?)... MJ is a strong, intelligent woman, who should be DOING something with her life, rather than posing for lurid lingerie shots for the illustrator of the month...