Ultimate X-Jerks?

[Darthphere]

Ultimate Ant/Giant-Man is quite the gentleman too.

Yeah, with the whole beating your wife thing.

 

[Union Jack]

Yeah, there was no need to kick Bruce in the mouth.

exactly..to make things realistic don't mean to make everyone a nasty piece of work..even in the real world there are truly good poeple...like cap kicking giant mans head in too...

i liked that cap was a truly honest and good preson with strong ideals and someone to really look up to..ult cap's just a thug who wears the american flag.


although on the plus side ult spidey is pretty cool tho...not as good as THE spidey..but good all the same.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Yeah, with the whole beating your wife thing.

It was the "unleashing an army of ants on your wife" thing that sealed the deal for me.

 

[The Leaguer]

The ant-on-Wasp action was the best part of that entire series.

 

[Caliber]

Yeah, with the whole beating your wife thing.

But hes trying to redeem himself atleast instead of that point being his main characterization in the 616 marvel universe.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

exactly..to make things realistic don't mean to make everyone a nasty piece of work..even in the real world there are truly good poeple...like cap kicking giant mans head in too...

i liked that cap was a truly honest and good preson with strong ideals and someone to really look up to..ult cap's just a thug who wears the american flag.


although on the plus side ult spidey is pretty cool tho...not as good as THE spidey..but good all the same.

Weeeeell, 616 Cap did fling his shield into Pym's nose 2 issues of New Avengers ago, hahaha.

But hes trying to redeem himself atleast instead of that point being his main characterization in the 616 marvel universe.

......by helping the Liberators? Nice :

 

[Union Jack]

bit different that tho...they were at war and giantman was on the opposing side!!

i look forward to spidey joining cap's side..tony has played pete from the word go...

 

[Caliber]

......by helping the Liberators? Nice :

My theory is he is going to bring them down to try to get back on the Ultimates.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Hmmm.

 

[Caliber]

Hmmm.

Thats the only reason I believe hes helping them. He look like a hero again and forgiven for what hes done in the past.

 

[Darthphere]

It takes a man of great class to have ants eat your wife. Such refined taste!

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Thats the only reason I believe hes helping them. He look like a hero again and forgiven for what hes done in the past.

Well Janet's obviously forgiven him already, the part that pisses me off. Battered women make no sense.

 

[Union Jack]

too true....I have known some.....pisses me off too.
In all honesty i can totally understand ult cap kicking giantmans head in for it...even tho THE cap would be above that sort of thing...

but then women make no sense...

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

exactly..to make things realistic don't mean to make everyone a nasty piece of work..even in the real world there are truly good poeple...like cap kicking giant mans head in too...

i liked that cap was a truly honest and good preson with strong ideals and someone to really look up to..ult cap's just a thug who wears the american flag.


although on the plus side ult spidey is pretty cool tho...not as good as THE spidey..but good all the same.

Actually, Ult. Cap is not really a thug as someone truly out of time. Where 616 Cap definitely was capable of getting into the current time line and mannerisms just fine in comparison. He comes from a world where problems were usually solved over fists and extreme moral polarity. In his mind, he's doing the complete right thing, where today's world views his actions with a little less fervor.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

Well Janet's obviously forgiven him already, the part that pisses me off. Battered women make no sense.

Usually an inferiority complex.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Usually an inferiority complex.

Yeah, usually the case. But Cap had begun to neglect her so wouldn't she like that?

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

Yeah, usually the case. But Cap had begun to neglect her so wouldn't she like that?

No. But it totally feeds her dependence on him.

 

[Darthphere]

I wonder if her inferiority complex is also related to her powers.


I swear I saw a fanboy make some metaphorical argument about that once.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

If you mean her dependence on Cap, then why is she sneaking cell phone conversations with Scott?

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

I wonder if her inferiority complex is also related to her powers.


I swear I saw a fanboy make some metaphorical argument about that once.

She gets small, and feels small. Her only power is to become small. Makes sense on some level. But it's usually a childhood bred problem. Or genetic. But then again, we have no real way of comparing that situation to a real world person, so they'll probably say that someday. Or it could be because she's shallow that she has an inferiority complex. Simply because (forgive the pun) she's not "deep" enough.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

If you mean her dependence on Cap, then why is she sneaking cell phone conversations with Scott?

Dependence on Hank. See, Cap totally accepts her for the most part, where Hank was critical of her. Hank is basically the core of all of her analysis on herself. She kind of sees it as Hank sees her for her, where others can't. It's usually a repressed thing, she doesn't actively see it that way.

And you're trying to compare battered women to "regular" women. They do not function the same way.

 

[Mike059jig]

They been X-jerks since the book started...it has been up and down after 14 it started to go forward with the books best arc the return of the king but then goes downard then up back with sinister and has been....then it has been bad eversince not horrible bad..but just a boring read....

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Dependence on Hank. See, Cap totally accepts her for the most part, where Hank was critical of her. Hank is basically the core of all of her analysis on herself. She kind of sees it as Hank sees her for her, where others can't. It's usually a repressed thing, she doesn't actively see it that way.

And you're trying to compare battered women to "regular" women. They do not function the same way.

I wouldn't surprised if she developed an eating disorder in Ultimates 3.