Underworld 3- The official Thread!

[Marvolo]

i thought it was kind strange when the film took place in the daylight for a couple of minutes, it didn't feel underworld to me. Did Lucian have the 'V' brand on his arm in the film?

Lol you weren't the only one. When that scene came up and Lucian breaks through the window in the sunlight and takes the death dealers with him I was like wait a second this is "off". And when they got to the edge of the woods I was like ok I never realized it but this is the first time there has been a daylight scene in these films. Although, I think it added to it and was a nice contrast. Plus, we get the amazing moment where Victor is fighting against his limitations and is standing on the ledge and allowing the sun to burn him as he stares down upon Lucian and his guard says "My Lord" to remind him that he shouldn't do that and then Victor very creepily sinks back into the darkness. It really shows that at that moment Victor knows that even though Lucian is in his eyes is beneath him he has a greater weakness.

Also, did anyone else love the political scenes. I loved the scenes with the council. In the first movie we heard about the council, but never really saw them except for their slaughter on the train. And in this movie we finally get to see the previous council in action. It gave the Vampires more of a reality. These aren't just monsters. They know how to run things. I don't know why, but these scenes really pushed the film up a notch or two.

And I have to mention Tanus (sp). Lol I love his character and I had no idea he was in this film til recently and I figured it would just be a cameo, but he was prominent. And I absolutely loved the scene where Victor has his armor on and is walking outside and passes Tanus who is grabbing his scrolls and Victor grabs him and says "there are far more pressing issues than your precious scrolls!" It was an interestingly snide moment from Victor to Tanus. The only thing I really regret not seeing in this film regarding Tanus is that we didnt see him banished. Once he showed up on screen and he started doing his part I figured he was banished for helping Lucian and Sonja then he wasn't so now I'm wondering what he was banished for. I would love to have seen him get banished, however, I understand that it wasn't important for this story and wasn't neccessary to be shown. I didn't count off any points over it. Oeverall, I gave the film a 9/10. That might seem kind of high, but I appreciated the story, and heavily enjoyed the fact that here was a prequel that did what it was suppossed to do. It expanded the history without ****ing up continuity beyond repair.

 

[nocomics]

I really wish Raze didn't get killed at the end of the first movie, I would've liked to see him become leader, seeing as he was Lucian's second in command.

Ya, now with this movie it makes their relationship even more cool. I know they talked about another movie that takes place after the second UW,but I'd rather see one that takes place from this movie and UW1. I like to see the ties with Kraven,and back story of Celene.

 

[DACrowe]

Well the thing is that a) the actor who plays Kraven is terrible and that is why he wasn't in this movie and b) Kate Beckinsale doesn't want to do anymore which is why it is just as hard to get an UW4 set after UW2 as it is after the prequel.

But I'd personally like to see a movie that ends the series with a real final film as the ending of UW2 is too wide open and leaves too many questions. In fact it failed to answer almost anything left from UW1 other than Markus was rising. Selene and Michael are hybrids but what about the war?

I hope if they do make a fourth, and I won't mind if they don't, they close the story. Then after that if they do a television series "Highlander style" to fill in gaps wherever they want, that'd be cool.

 

[Figs]

Well the thing is that a) the actor who plays Kraven is terrible and that is why he wasn't in this movie and b) Kate Beckinsale doesn't want to do anymore which is why it is just as hard to get an UW4 set after UW2 as it is after the prequel.

But I'd personally like to see a movie that ends the series with a real final film as the ending of UW2 is too wide open and leaves too many questions. In fact it failed to answer almost anything left from UW1 other than Markus was rising. Selene and Michael are hybrids but what about the war?

I hope if they do make a fourth, and I won't mind if they don't, they close the story. Then after that if they do a television series "Highlander style" to fill in gaps wherever they want, that'd be cool.

I agree with most of what you said except for the television series idea.

This series/trilogy is fine and doesn't really need another film. TV series based on movies are **** because they just make crap up as they go like a soap opera and usually always mess up continuity.

If they can't get Kate Beckinsale I say don't recast for a possible sequel or second prequel and leave it as is.

 

[Darth Elektra]

anyone know the budget for this movie?

35 Million.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

When did Kate say she didn't want to do another one? Last I read she loved playing the part of Selene and definitely wants to do another Underworld.

 

[TheVileOne]

Did you sit in the right theater? Because I disagree with alot of what your saying here in your short review. Tatapoulous' directing I thought was actually better than Len Wisemans from the first two films, without being a huge departure. And I thought there was more emotional investment between Lucian and Sonya was fine and showed a truckload of actor to actor chemistry, much more so than the wooden chemistry with Mikael and Selene. The Epilouge simply just fed into the first film of the series, just like the intro of the last film did. It felt like just the right leangth, not too short, but it didn't drag out. The Vampire/Human/ Lycan politics we're not confusing at all, it's not like they needed to show a pie chart.

But hey, different strokes...

I like the actors, just some stuff about the dialogue and the pairing bothered me. Sonia looked like a gigantic ****** to me when she did some of the stuff she did.

The intro of the last film tied in well with the first movie.

The epilogue just felt like it had NO place in this story because there was no Selene.

Sonia's eyes kept going from brown to blue. Pretty bad continuity.

 

[Bastila]

I really can't think of many complaints of the top of my head. The ending was just great in how it

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literally goes right into the first film with Beckinsale kneeling on the building, I got subtle chills.

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Yeah me too as well, I was like ahhhh awesome, and made me want to watch the first film straight away....

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I liked how they chose that scene, some of my friends thought it should have been the scene with her going to Viktor in the Barn, but that scene fitted as your comparing Selene with Sonja and how they both fell in love with someone who Viktor didn't approve of and how they where both deathdealers I liked it was awesone little bit

Anyway want to see it again

Micheal Sheen was just once again badass lol Just hope they do another film

 

[BloodyWolverine]

The only thing i had major problems with is Len and tHis director need too study teh art of doing a love making scene. They seem kinda laughible really and should have some realisums too them. The seem kinda cartoony too me. I did like there relationship Lucian and Sonja but there love scene could have been done a little better.
I'm not saying he should be wolf form saying whos your daddy. Saying they needed to do things differant.
I think there will be an actual sequel after Evolution cause you gotta wonder how dead is Victor after seeing Lucian ram a sword through the back fo his head. I think either he could come back or Marcus has sun hidden somewhere. Yor saying how could Viktor be alive he was blown up and his head cut in half. My figuring is the heart was never hit and it was not cut of but in half.

 

[Not_Sane]

I'm Pretty sure once a Vampire has their head sliced in half and has his chest cut open, and then is in a huge explosion, that they are dead. I don't think Viktor will be coming back unless they do another prequel.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Havent seen the 3rd one yet and liked the first 2, but people claiming these movies are better than the Blade movies are completely crazy IMO.

Anyway, should be seeing the 3rd soon.

 

[squeekness]

^^Considering I hated all the Blade movies it was an easy thing for me to say. No offense.

 

[BloodyWolverine]

Well in consistency Underworld stays the same style. Blade movies start off good in 1 and is ok in 2 but tanks out in 3. Underworld stays with the same type world and people like that like the films same world feel with no cheap vampire flaimg ash deaths. The deaths are real and bloody as it should be.

 

[The Chris]

Havent seen the 3rd one yet and liked the first 2, but people claiming these movies are better than the Blade movies are completely crazy IMO.

Anyway, should be seeing the 3rd soon.

I have them as even right now, because I don't know which i prefer out of the first installments, I prefer Blade II over Underworld: Evolution, but Underworld: Rise of the Lycans is much better than Blade: trinity. Blade Trinity was a disaster that didn't even feel like it belonged with the other two. Very weak directing, horrible villains, and horrible supporting players, while Underworld 3 definitely has much more of what the first two have while also being I think pretty well directed, especially for a first timer. I was impressed that the new director didn't give up his old job as the creature designer either so he was pulling double duty his first time out.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I like the firsrt 2 movies of Underworld but they arent particularly good or well made movies in all honesty, were as the first 2 Blade movies were.

 

[DACrowe]

I like the actors, just some stuff about the dialogue and the pairing bothered me. Sonia looked like a gigantic ****** to me when she did some of the stuff she did.

The intro of the last film tied in well with the first movie.

The epilogue just felt like it had NO place in this story because there was no Selene.

Sonia's eyes kept going from brown to blue. Pretty bad continuity.

Now, I'm not going to defend these movies as high art or great cinema. But they are very enjoyable B-movies, imo. But I can understand your disdain for them.

However, that one part I felt needed to be highlighted. Have you watched the last two films or even paid attention to the other characters? ALL VAMPIRES (other than Viktor) have dark eyes that turn into an icey supernatural blue when ever they are excited, angry or just experiencing some extreme emotion. For example when talking to her father or the council Sonja would have brown eyes, but when fighting for her life or having sex or killing a werewolf she would have blue eyes.

Felt that needed to be said as it is not bad continuity, it is an aspect of the vampires that has carried from the first film. In fact it was one of the defining traits of Selene as her eyes first turn blue in a close-up as she...really enjoys killing the first lycan she does in that movie.

 

[DACrowe]

I like the firsrt 2 movies of Underworld but they arent particularly good or well made movies in all honesty, were as the first 2 Blade movies were.

I would respectfully disagree about the first Blade compared to Underworld. I think Wiseman is a much more balanced director than Norrington. They both make glossy (i.e. simplistic) action movies. But the first Underworld had more depth, fewer pacing holes and was just a more coherent movie with more dynamic action. Blade I is extremely entertaining but it is very flawed (I mean they left a giant spider in it for crying out loud) and you could tell they really had no idea how to end it. Blade II is made better than UW2 though and with a stronger story. But UW2 is also the weakest of the three.

I will say that Norrington is better than the director of UW3, but he is still better than Goyer and 3 is a good action movie, moreso than Blade Trinity by far and arguably 1, because I'm just going to say Lucian and Viktor are such good characters, even if the movie has plot holes and directional flaws (though not as weak as the ones in Blade: Trinity). Just my opinion.

 

[Bastila]

However, that one part I felt needed to be highlighted. Have you watched the last two films or even paid attention to the other characters? ALL VAMPIRES (other than Viktor) have dark eyes that turn into an icey supernatural blue when ever they are excited, angry or just experiencing some extreme emotion. For example when talking to her father or the council Sonja would have brown eyes, but when fighting for her life or having sex or killing a werewolf she would have blue eyes.

I like it that the vampires do that with their eyes, just think its cool, and different.

In fact it was one of the defining traits of Selene as her eyes first turn blue in a close-up as she...really enjoys killing the first lycan she does in that movie.

I liked that shot very cool.

 

[nocomics]

Well the thing is that a) the actor who plays Kraven is terrible and that is why he wasn't in this movie and b) Kate Beckinsale doesn't want to do anymore which is why it is just as hard to get an UW4 set after UW2 as it is after the prequel.

But I'd personally like to see a movie that ends the series with a real final film as the ending of UW2 is too wide open and leaves too many questions. In fact it failed to answer almost anything left from UW1 other than Markus was rising. Selene and Michael are hybrids but what about the war?

I hope if they do make a fourth, and I won't mind if they don't, they close the story. Then after that if they do a television series "Highlander style" to fill in gaps wherever they want, that'd be cool.

I thought the actor who played Kraven was fine and I don' think thats why he was'nt in the movie? Unless u have a link of the director or someone of importance saying that. Far as Kate I'm not sure she said she did'nt enjoy the part,byfar her best/most popular role imo...Besides if they throw enough money her way I'd bet she reconsidered,and again I think she knows this was one of her most notable roles to mainstream audiences.
Ending of UW2 was okay did it leave it open to a certain extent. I guess they could come up with some other super-vampire/lycans,but all the main elders are dead so they leave little room to progress the story..
I'm disappointed that Raz died in first one,and like one poster said it would of been cool to have Raz takeover as lead lycan.
I do hope they do another and like I've stated in a couple other posts is I'd rather do a UW between UW1 and Rise of the Lycans I think doing the backstory on Kraven/Lucian would make UW1 even better.

 

[DACrowe]

I would not. As we know that story, Kraven is a bad character and poorly acted (he is widely considered the worst actor in the series and got terrible reviews in the first film). There is a reason Kraven is killed off in the first 5 minutes of UW2 and not in UW3 at all, despite the fact that his character should be. He was replaced by Tannis, who is played by a much more accomplished actor, Steven Mackintosh.

As for Beckinsale. She has said repeatedly that she is not sure she wants to return and does not think "she'll be able to fit into that skin tight outfit forever." Which is a nice way to say, she does not want to return. I think she enjoyed doing the movies (she met her husband, didn't she?) and they raised her movie-star status. But they also trivialize her a little bit as a sexy action heroine and she wants to be taken seriously as an actress. They're considered B-action movies and she is doing things like The Aviator, Snow Angels and Nothing But the Truth (which she had tiny Oscar buzz for, but it was there fleetingly).

I'm not saying it is impossible for her to return. If Sony ScreenGems offers her an absurdly large amount of money she very well may come back, I'm simply saying she is moving on with her career and probably wisely notes these movies hurt her legitimacy as a serious actress, even if they help her image as a movie star. Hence, why she did little more than voice over at the beginning of this movie. As for her best role, I hear she was excellent in Nothing But the Truth, though I have not seen it. She was quite good I thought as Ava Gardner in The Aviator, though.

 

[stargazer]

Anyway want to see it again

Micheal Sheen was just once again badass lol Just hope they do another film

Does he have a big part in the film? Does he play a good character or a villain? t: Sorry, I have never watched any of these films, but I like him as an actor, so I might watch this.

 

[squeekness]

He had a large part in this and was simply amazing. You really should watch this whole series.

 

[drallig9399]

I swear. I dont see why people go to action/horror movies looking for chick flick type character interactions, but dont go to chick flick movies looking for action/horror scenes.

Anyway UW3 was the most brawlic movie since 300. Thats all I wanted from it. The backstory of L & S's love is alright. But its the slave uprising that was frigging awesome. The fights in this movie were awesome and the special effects of this movie were awesome.

Stop judging movies for stuff they themselves arent even concerned about. I dont go watch March of Penguins and get pissed when there are no fight scenes or spaceships.

And the guy talking about the brown eyes going blue is a ******. If you couldnt figure out that only the oldest vampires had blue eyes all the time then you couldnt pick up on one of the absolute simplest things of the movie.

Oh and there def needs to be a fourth movie. The second does nothing for wrapping this thing up, hence the problem with the third movie of your little trilogy idea being a prequel. Its cute and all but damn it really doesnt tell you ANYTHING you didnt already know.

 

[Darth Elektra]

Opening Weekend: $20,828,511 *Actual.

 

[Bastila]

oh oh oh forgot, it was Sonja doing the voice over at the start wasn't it?