The Dark Knight * UPDATE - Academy Will Consider TDK Score

[drunkhomer]

**** this BS! i'm pissed!

 

[Franklin Richards]

The score was pretty underwhelming anyway. What makes you think it would have been nominated?

 

[Anita18]

That they wouldn't qualify is what I meant.

I'm not surprised at all either. BB was disqualified for the same reason.

I'm not surprised. I'm really expecting no Oscars from the academy. They don't really know good film making when they see it to be honest. The OT never won anything for it's acting/story/direction and yet LOTR did.


.....spare me.

Watch Iron Man get nominated and win a ton. (Not that it's a bad movie, just not as deserving IMO.)

Screw the Academy. I don't care what they think to begin with.

- Jow

Calm down, Anjow. Iron Man winning a ton of Oscars?

A nomination for TDK's score was always iffy because of this technicality. Other nominations are still totally in play. Nobody can ignore such a well-received $500+ million movie. A supporting actor nom for Ledger is a lock, at least.

 

[Nirvana]

Well, it's not about winning, I would agree that they wouldn't win. I would've liked to have seen them make the preliminaries AT LEAST. If they made it to the nomination list, even better.

-TNC

You're right, it wasn't about winning. But that's beside the point, because they didn't even meet the requirements to be nominated. Everyone knows that two composers can't be nominated, so why is everyone acting surprised about it?

 

[iDannyR]

now this sucks, i've been listening to the score lately and it's brilliant. too bad

 

[Anjow1060]

I'm not surprised at all either. BB was disqualified for the same reason.


Calm down, Anjow. Iron Man winning a ton of Oscars?

A nomination for TDK's score was always iffy because of this technicality. Other nominations are still totally in play. Nobody can ignore such a well-received $500+ million movie. A supporting actor nom for Ledger is a lock, at least.

The way the academy is?

You never know.

Ok ok, i'm over exaggerating.

But something I really would be surprised about, is if Gary Oldman doesn't get a supporting actor nom as well. The man is amazing. He deserves to be nominated again (i think he's been nominated/won at least once before) for his great work.

- Jow

 

[IAmTheKnight]

I also don't really get what people are so upset over here. TDK doesn't have an Oscar-worthy score, anyway. A serviceable score, with decent ideas, an occasional standout cue...this doesn't add up to an Academy Award my friends.

You wanna get worked up over a score loss--how about Chariots of Fire winning over Raiders of the Lost Ark? How about Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade losing to...I kid you not...The Little Mermaid?!

 

[FlawlessVictory]

The way the academy is?

You never know.

Ok ok, i'm over exaggerating.

But something I really would be surprised about, is if Gary Oldman doesn't get a supporting actor nom as well. The man is amazing. He deserves to be nominated again (i think he's been nominated/won at least once before) for his great work.

- Jow

Oldman has never been nominated for an Academy Award which is an absolute injustice.

 

[Figs]

I sadly get the feeling that the academy is going to come up with some bull**** excuse for not giving TDK best film/best actor/director/etc. They'll probably throw the movie a bone with like cinematography or something. But thats their problem. If they dont give TDK any of the bigger nominations, I highly doubt that people will take it seriously at all.

I'm close to agreeing with you on this but if Lord of the Rings can win Best Picture and Johnny Depp can get nominated for a role in a family movie based on a Disney ride...I still have hope.

Agreed. Hey, let's give The Golden Compass the best visual effects award over Transformers.



Fools.

Totally agree. That was one of the worst wins I've ever seen. I couldn't believe my eyes and ears that that film won best effects for a stupid polar bear over the leap in effects technology that Transformers achieved.

Oldman has never been nominated for an Academy Award which is an absolute injustice.

Damn straight it's an injustice.

 

[namtaB]

Oh well. Rules are rules. If we don't have those everything turns to chaos. I support the Academy's decision. If they make an exception to TDK then everyone will want an exception. I'm glad they're taking a stance on this, as opposed to the Government when they set a bad precedent with these bailouts. Now every company wants a bailout.

The only real shot TDK has is Ledger for Supporting Actor and even then its a nomination. I doubt he'll win but you never know. The rest best picture, best director, etc. is all a pipe dream. Let's be real this film doesn't have a shot at those.

 

[Anita18]

The only real shot TDK has is Ledger for Supporting Actor and even then its a nomination. I doubt he'll win but you never know. The rest best picture, best director, etc. is all a pipe dream. Let's be real this film doesn't have a shot at those.

If it was just us wanting Oscar noms for TDK, I'd agree with you, but there are quite a number of folks on other forums who think it's possible.

 

[Harrygucha]

Oh well. Rules are rules. If we don't have those everything turns to chaos. I support the Academy's decision. If they make an exception to TDK then everyone will want an exception. I'm glad they're taking a stance on this, as opposed to the Government when they set a bad precedent with these bailouts. Now every company wants a bailout.

The only real shot TDK has is Ledger for Supporting Actor and even then its a nomination. I doubt he'll win but you never know. The rest best picture, best director, etc. is all a pipe dream. Let's be real this film doesn't have a shot at those.

Are you high? TDK has locked nominations for:

Best Director
Best Cinematography
Best Adapted Screenplay
Best Supporting Actor (Ledger will win)
Best Picture
Best sound mixing
Best editing

This is the buzz around hollywood. I work in LA, and there is talk of TDK almost everyday. The story that Variety just printed about the score being eliminated is an indication of how much attention this film is getting. If some score from a movie was disqualified, do you think they would write a story about it and put it in Variety? -NO. This is the film that is getting all the Oscar buzz. And i'm the guy who complains about things in TDK all the time.

This is just what i'm hearing. You can find it on the net. Go to incontention.com TDK is the cream of the crop right now in the Academies eyes.

And Ledger will win. No doubt. And I think Nolan will win as well. TDK is a lock for best picture as well. Copy and paste my comments. Come Oscar time, you guys will see. TDK wil clean up.

 

[drunkhomer]

Are you high? TDK has locked nominations for:

Best Director
Best Cinematography
Best Adapted Screenplay
Best Supporting Actor (Ledger will win)
Best Picture
Best sound mixing
Best editing

This is the buzz around hollywood. I work in LA, and there is talk of TDK almost everyday. The story that Variety just printed about the score being eliminated is an indication of how much attention this film is getting. If some score from a movie was disqualified, do you think they would write a story about it and put it in Variety? -NO. This is the film that is getting all the Oscar buzz. And i'm the guy who complains about things in TDK all the time.

This is just what i'm hearing. You can find it on the net. Go to incontention.com TDK is the cream of the crop right now in the Academies eyes.

And Ledger will win. No doubt. And I think Nolan will win as well. TDK is a lock for best picture as well. Copy and paste my comments. Come Oscar time, you guys will see. TDK wil clean up.

+1

totally agree!

 

[Fenrir]

The score was pretty underwhelming anyway. What makes you think it would have been nominated?

Read the Variety article:

Some members sided with Zimmer and Howard; citing the originality and cutting-edge nature of the music, they urged others to keep the "Dark Knight" score eligible despite the cue-sheet issue.

The fact that they even extensively discussed, let alone sided with TDK as a nominee for Best Score shows that it was in the race. It was disqualified on the basis of a technicality, not lack of merit.

 

[8Diagrams(WU)]

I always hate when things get disqualified on technicalities. It usually means that the winner isnt the best one out there.

I dont know what kind of competion the score has, but I dig the TDK score.

 

[El Payaso]

If it was just us wanting Oscar noms for TDK, I'd agree with you, but there are quite a number of folks on other forums who think it's possible.

I have to ask... So? because some other people think it's possible it actually is?

Oldman has never been nominated for an Academy Award which is an absolute injustice.

Chaplin never got one, Hitchcock or Kubrick.

What I find really absurd is that notion that Oscars are a worthy serious award that goes for excellent things. That has never been the point of Oscars.

 

[Anita18]

I have to ask... So? because some other people think it's possible it actually is?

At least it proves that we're not as delusional as we think.

Also, WB would not be spending the money or effort rolling out TDK's re-release before the Oscars if they didn't TDK had a legitimate shot. Dreamworks didn't even give Gladiator a re-release until it had already won the Oscar.

I do think TDK has a chance at being nominated for a few Oscars. I don't know its legitimate chances for the big guns, but it DOES have a chance. The fact that it's being talked about, and the fact that WB is planning a re-release in time for the Academy voting proves it.

 

[Spider-Vader]

Wow, what's gonna win for Best Score now? Some boring movie, that no one will remember the score a year from now?

I think people will remember 'Molossus' & some of the other scores a while from now.

I think IM will be nominated for Best Score & Adapted Screenplay (which TDK will win). But Downey getting even nominated for Best Actor? Bah, Ledger will be their 'Jack Sparrow' of the year.

 

[Anita18]

I think IM will be nominated for Best Score & Adapted Screenplay (which TDK will win). But Downey getting even nominated for Best Actor? Bah, Ledger will be their 'Jack Sparrow' of the year.

...I don't even remember the score for IM.

And I dunno if even TDK will get a nom for Adapted Screenplay, much less IM, when you have Oscar bait like Revolutionary Road, The Reader, Frost/Nixon, Slumdog Millionaire and Benjamin Button up against it.

 

[[A]]

...I don't even remember the score for IM.

Probably because it was so unmemorable.. petty and insignificant

 

[redfirebird2008]

...I don't even remember the score for IM.

And I dunno if even TDK will get a nom for Adapted Screenplay, much less IM, when you have Oscar bait like Revolutionary Road, The Reader, Frost/Nixon, Slumdog Millionaire and Benjamin Button up against it.

Not a chance in hell Iron Man gets nominated in any of the major categories. The only reason TDK is up for consideration is because of the box office. They literally CAN'T say no to it in all of the major categories or they'll lose what little credibility they have left. We know they damn sure don't WANT to give it any credit whatsoever, but its popularity will force them to.

 

[Spider-Vader]

...I don't even remember the score for IM.

And I dunno if even TDK will get a nom for Adapted Screenplay, much less IM, when you have Oscar bait like Revolutionary Road, The Reader, Frost/Nixon, Slumdog Millionaire and Benjamin Button up against it.

I remember the main theme. But probably because I've seen it so many times. From what I've heard alot of the movies that got Oscar buzz sucked. So I think TDK has a good shot.

redfirebird, what about the awesome reviews it got? I think that is why TDK even has a chance of getting in the major awards.

 

[redfirebird2008]

I remember the main theme. But probably because I've seen it so many times. From what I've heard alot of the movies that got Oscar buzz sucked. So I think TDK has a good shot.

redfirebird, what about the awesome reviews it got? I think that is why TDK even has a chance of getting in the major awards.

Nope, awesome reviews don't mean much of anything to the Academy when it's a summer blockbuster. Iron Man got awesome reviews. Spider-Man 2 got awesome reviews. All other things being equal (TDK being of the same quality as the Oscar-bait movies that the Academy loves), they would rather screw the popular movie over. But sometimes it's TOO popular for them to screw it over.

 

[Franklin Richards]

Read the Variety article:



The fact that they even extensively discussed, let alone sided with TDK as a nominee for Best Score shows that it was in the race. It was disqualified on the basis of a technicality, not lack of merit.

It sounded like they kept the background noise from the cameras. No refrain that anyone can remember. And it stole alot of it's basic structure from John Carpenter's The Thing.


It might as well have not been there it was so absent from the mood of the film.

 

[batman11]

It sounded like they kept the background noise from the cameras. No refrain that anyone can remember. And it stole alot of it's basic structure from John Carpenter's The Thing.


It might as well have not been there it was so absent from the mood of the film.

Apparently we saw a different movie then.