true. and i didn't finish my type in that quote. i didn't say Hans was ground breaking although using a street drummer in the first track of green card was something i've never heard before, nor have i ever heard him do a horror score, pretty ground-breaking to me. but no, i meant that, or catchy, which he is, true romance, backdraft, pacific heights, days of thunder, i literally could go on. but to say he rarely submits scores? i only heard of pirates awe. during the time when the academy had 2 categories for score; dramatic and comedy/musical, he had two submissions, one of which was prince of egypt. he lost both that year too. nope he has submitted in the past all his scores, with many not even nominated. (the ring) and many only nominated with no win. (prince, black hawk down)