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[Varient]

I have no Proof.

I Don't sit in with Marvel Writers.

But I do watch trends.


Marvel Universe 616 is headed for a minor "reboot".

Translation: Sometime in the next year or two either Wanda will say somerthing like :

"Everything was like it was before"

or

One of Marvels timetravelers will go back prior to the House of M incident and neuter Wanda.

or

Marvel will destroy 616 and take up the story telling in 615 or 617.

The bottom line here is that a lot of events that don't have possible fixes will be reset to zero.

Remember this post two years down the line please.

 

[PhotoJones]

i really, really don't think they'll trot out wanda to "fix" things again. i think they got too much a negative response to that, and they've learned.


now, doc strange on the other hand...

 

[Varient]

i really, really don't think they'll trot out wanda to "fix" things again. i think they got too much a negative response to that, and they've learned.


now, doc strange on the other hand...

LOL

Yeah,.. I could see that,... or maybe that group of the Captain Britian Corp will hit the reset switch from off panel.

My point remains that they will have to reset.

 

[PhotoJones]

LOL

Yeah,.. I could see that,... or maybe that group of the Captain Britian Corp will hit the reset switch from off panel.

My point remains that they will have to reset.

i'm sure it'd be a money maker on all the issue 1's and 2's, but in the long run, i don't think it'd be a good idea.

i dunno...i just don't see it happening. that's why there's an ultimate universe.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I don't think they'll reset anything. People are buying the comics right now, changes and all. Why go back on what's working for the company?

 

[PhotoJones]

I don't think they'll reset anything. People are buying the comics right now, changes and all. Why go back on what's working for the company?

exactly.

 

[Trigger]

I can't help but wonder though, if Annihilation and Civil War will tie into a bigger event that'll reboot the Marvel universe similar to Infinite Crisis.

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

I don't think they'll reset anything. People are buying the comics right now, changes and all. Why go back on what's working for the company?

I agree 100%.

I think they've successfully changed the status quo somewhat, and are going to run with it.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I can't help but wonder though, if Annihilation and Civil War will tie into a bigger event that'll reboot the Marvel universe similar to Infinite Crisis.

Nah, there's nothing to indicate that Annihilation and Civil War are remotely connected. At least in Infinite Crisis, we knew Alex Luthor, a guy with power on a cosmic scale, was behind everything. That was what connected The Rann/Thanagar War, The Return of Donna Troy, and the other space stories to the overarching IC stuff: the villain was a guy whose machinations could clearly run the entire length of the scale. I sincerely doubt that Annihilus is behind the SHRA or that the government has drafted Annihilus to wipe out the positive-matter universe.

 

[Trigger]

Point taken.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Don't get me wrong, there could be a connection. I don't know what's going on at Marvel. But at this point, given what we know from the respective crossovers, it seems pretty unlikely.

 

[roach]

I don't think they'll reset anything. People are buying the comics right now, changes and all. Why go back on what's working for the company?

Because Marvel doesnt stay with trends long. The status quo is a safe place for them to keep coming back to. Look at Morrison's run on X-Men...how soon was everything pretty much retconned????

 

[MyPokerShirt]

^yeah but marvel retcon things less obviously than announcing it in an event... well, usually. i think the "no more mutants" thing was a special case. i'd hate to see a huge retcon. i'd hate to think "coming home" or "revelations" meant nothing in the spidey world, and whatever happened to destroy the avengers in disassembled i'd hate for that to be retconned due to how key it was in creating the young avengers. i dont think marvel could manage a reboot. if you are so confidant (and you ARE, cos this was quite an arrogant move, making this thread - no offence meant) then what do you think could possibly be rebooted. you must have thought about it...


also why would marvel want to erase house of M? it cleared up the way mutants were replacing humans and how the marvel world was becoming less and less recognisable from our own, so why would they change that?

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

Because Marvel doesnt stay with trends long. The status quo is a safe place for them to keep coming back to. Look at Morrison's run on X-Men...how soon was everything pretty much retconned????

Not soon enough imo.

See, im personally a proponent of classic Marvel characters being put into different scenarios, as long as the fundamentals remain....

Peter Parker reveals his secret id to the world? Big deal. Subsequent issues have since shown me a young man trying hard to do the right thing, which is still the characters basic core.

Going back to Stan and Jack's original concept of the X-Men, we had a group of minorities trying to survive and co-exist with normal humans...underdogs, if you will...

Morrison had the X-Men quickly turning into the dominant species on the planet, with humans about to be breeded out completely.

is THAT the type of Marvel Universe you want to read about? A world where EVERYONE is a mutant?

No thanks.

 

[WOLVERINE25TH]

Stan Lee will wake up and find Spider-Man in his shower, realizin' the last decade of Marvel was wall a dream...

 

[Harlekin]

Morrison hardly had them be the dominant species. They were just increased in number. As for some random comments:

- "No more mutants." is in fact not a retcon.
- Onslaught could've/should've been their 'reset' button, but I think that just showed that just doesn't work for Marvel.
- I really doubt we will get some kind of Crisis thing after all of this. I also don't think things will be retconned, we'll just get really lame explanations for how things change back to the way they were.

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

Stan Lee will wake up and find Spider-Man in his shower, realizin' the last decade of Marvel was wall a dream...

Doubtful. Stan has remarked publicly, as recently as last weekend, that he LOVES what Marvel has been up to.

 

[gildea]

Where Are The Spolier Tags???

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

Morrison hardly had them be the dominant species. They were just increased in number.

Indeed, but if you read the original run, it wasnt about them numbering in the millions, it was about them "preparing" for that day.

Morrison moved the book way to close to a planet dominated by mutants for my tastes.

 

[GNR]

I can't help but wonder though, if Annihilation and Civil War will tie into a bigger event that'll reboot the Marvel universe similar to Infinite Crisis.

Brevoort has said time and time again that CW will be the final company-wide crossover in a long time.

 

[roach]

I have no Proof.

I Don't sit in with Marvel Writers.

But I do watch trends.


Marvel Universe 616 is headed for a minor "reboot".

Translation: Sometime in the next year or two either Wanda will say somerthing like :

"Everything was like it was before"

or

One of Marvels timetravelers will go back prior to the House of M incident and neuter Wanda.

or

Marvel will destroy 616 and take up the story telling in 615 or 617.

The bottom line here is that a lot of events that don't have possible fixes will be reset to zero.

Remember this post two years down the line please.

use the search...we already have a bunch of threads like this

 

[WOLVERINE25TH]

YEah, Cap, but are those HIS opinions, or are they his opinions? Think about it.

 

[Trigger]

Doubtful. Stan has remarked publicly, as recently as last weekend, that he LOVES what Marvel has been up to.

As others have said, would he really say otherwise about Marvel?

 

[gildea]

As others have said, would he really say otherwise about Marvel?

Considering he recently sued them I would think he would be fairly honest.

I wouldn't expect him to outright bash them but say tactfully that he doesn't quite agree with their current direction if that was the case.

Also I'm fairly sure they've not let him anywhere near a copy of sins past.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

I can't help but wonder though, if Annihilation and Civil War will tie into a bigger event that'll reboot the Marvel universe similar to Infinite Crisis.

That feels like reading into things.