The Dark Knight Variety Weblog: Dark Knight's Nolan and DC Comics Pics

[thejon93]

....just to reiterate....

Oh... thank God. I just read all the way up to that part from the article then quickly posted how I felt about that. Thanks for clearing that up.

 

[Octoberist]

Guys, I don't think we have to worry when the author said that it would be PG. I think he meant PG in a broad sense, which probably included PG-13.

Also, when he says light on violence, you have to take into account today's standards of what "violence" are. Normal violence in PG-13 movies today would have been R rated 10 to 15 years ago. Lots of violence today equals movies like Saw, where the violence is basically included just for the sake of violence. I'm sure the movie will be pg-13 and I'm sure the level of violence will be fine.

It's funny because I got that right away. But it's funny to see people overreact to things.

 

[Nivek]

I'm starting to wonder if a Rated R Batman movie could work. I mean, it's obvious a box office risk, but characters like The Joker could have their violent natures given justice.

I still dream of a scene where The Joker beats somebody to death with a crowbar, blood spattering on his face, while he laughs hysterically the entire time.

300 was in the top 10 of 2007, and it was a graphic hard R comic book adaption with a healthy coating of ultra-violence.

Only reason we will never see a R rated wide release Batman film is that despite whats been done before, the powers that be at WB still feel Batman is a "kids" franchise.

 

[TNC9852002]

Eh...I'm not worried about something that's been posted in Variety.

-TNC

 

[FlawlessVictory]

Nolan has to return and good that Singer won't return he ruined Superman.

Agreed.

 

[Van Petrol]

Have to wait and see how things pan out.

 

[Pennyworth]

Regardless of whether or not that statement is true, I love how everyone's ignoring the 'character-driven' part of the sentence. I'd rather a character driven PG than a super violent R any day.

yes. Me too.

 

[Magenta666]

isnt saying DC comics a little redundant? its like saying ATM machine.

 

[jimmy]

Come on, guys. It's Variety. VARIETY!

 

[DeaDheaD]

Variety is full of Fail. :

 

[Anita18]

If you think the Joker writing in blood on the one-sheet is anything close to The Incredibles or even the Narnia movies, you've got to be kidding yourself.

There's nothing to worry about.

 

[jimmy]

What is PG anyway? PG-10? PG-12? PG-13? Who knows?! Who cares?!

With all the Hype Nolan is putting into this movie, I expecting nothing short of epicness in movie format.

 

[peteagassi]

I would take a character driven piece over a bloody R any day of the week! I don't think we have to worry about TDK not being character driven with Nolan at the helm; it most definitely will be a smart, character driven movie. Don't forget, unlike Raimi, Singer, Del toro, Nolan writes and directs: So it's definitely going to be quality, otherwise nolan wouldn't have done it in the first place. Nolan doesn't care about money like the rest of these directors, he's just out to make a great, unique film.

And I don't think we have to worry about the lack of violence that the Joker will bring, either. I mean, it took the guy five minutes to kill four people (hint, hint, prologue..cough...um, yeah...) Killing two directly, and the others indirectly.

 

[peteagassi]

I thought Raimi only wrote Spider-man 3. The other two were written by someone else.

 

[peteagassi]

Raimi wrote and directed too...

David Koepp wrote Spidey 1 and Alvin sargent wrote 2. And then Raimi couldnt turn down the money for Spidey 3, and wrote the biggest heap of crap ever seen and written in movie history. Nolan is a born writer. He understands the narrative better than anyone, in my opinion. TDK will be the gold standard, i have no doubt. Is it no surprise that all spider-man movies had the same plot, essentially; Bad guy is born, spidey comes in to save the day, mary-jane is kidnapped, spidey saves her, THE END.

 

[Final Night]

Only reason we will never see a R rated wide release Batman film is that despite whats been done before, the powers that be at WB still feel Batman is a "kids" franchise.

I don't necessarily buy that they think it's a "kids" franchise, but I do think that they're very aware of the fact that this movie is going to attract a wide age range and they have to be conscious of that.

 

[Anita18]

Nolan doesn't care about money like the rest of these directors, he's just out to make a great, unique film.

I don't think he's THAT altruistic. Good box office performance and DVD sales means that people saw it, and as an artist of course you want people to see your work.

I do agree that his main aim is to tell the film's story the best he can.

And I thought that Guillermo Del Toro wrote a lot of his movies as well. He always keeps a notebook with him to write down his ideas. He left his Pan's Labyrinth notebook in a taxi and when the cab driver returned it to him, he thought it an omen that he had to make the movie.

 

[blueblazer2]

The PG-13 version was a damn joke. Again, I don't understand Fox and their thinking. Yeah, it'll make money with a lower rating, but don't jeopardized the integrity of the director's original and more entertaining vision, along with the series.

What are you talking about ? Live Free or Die hard was great . There was alot of Violence and swearing . It was the best one after the original .

 

[Figs]

I would take a character driven piece over a bloody R any day of the week! I don't think we have to worry about TDK not being character driven with Nolan at the helm; it most definitely will be a smart, character driven movie. Don't forget, unlike Raimi, Singer, Del toro, Nolan writes and directs: So it's definitely going to be quality, otherwise nolan wouldn't have done it in the first place. Nolan doesn't care about money like the rest of these directors, he's just out to make a great, unique film.

And I don't think we have to worry about the lack of violence that the Joker will bring, either. I mean, it took the guy five minutes to kill four people (hint, hint, prologue..cough...um, yeah...) Killing two directly, and the others indirectly.

Although I love Batman as well as Nolan(as a writer/director) just as much as you and the rest, what you said in bold is quite full of ****. I'm sorry but that just screams of Nolan fanboyism in a bad way. There is no proof to say any of those directors are in it solely for the money, especially someone like Del Toro.

As for your other comment about Raimi, people love to forget that the studio had him change the story to include Venom while the production was already going on. Sorry, get tired of people blaiming Raimi for the bad story of 3, blame him for including the lame dance/crying scenes but the movie being bad as a whole wasn't his fault. I guarantee it would have been up to par with the first two if the studio let him alone.

To stay on topic(sorry about short rant), this movie should be twisted enough after hearing interviews from both Cain and Ledger describe how Joker is in this one. I was worried about that guy on the front page's BS statements at first before I realized he didn't know what he was talking about.

 

[nickyg641]

Guys, I don't think we have to worry when the author said that it would be PG. I think he meant PG in a broad sense, which probably included PG-13.

Also, when he says light on violence, you have to take into account today's standards of what "violence" are. Normal violence in PG-13 movies today would have been R rated 10 to 15 years ago. Lots of violence today equals movies like Saw, where the violence is basically included just for the sake of violence. I'm sure the movie will be pg-13 and I'm sure the level of violence will be fine.

I got that right away.

And, even if it were PG, people seem to be ignoring the "character driven" part. Isn't that what we've always wanted? A character-driven Batman movie that doesn't resort to mindless action? Now they tell people that's what they're getting, and they complain the Joker isn't going to disembowl people on screen.

 

[Mr. Socko]

I would take a character driven piece over a bloody R any day of the week! I don't think we have to worry about TDK not being character driven with Nolan at the helm; it most definitely will be a smart, character driven movie. Don't forget, unlike Raimi, Singer, Del toro, Nolan writes and directs: So it's definitely going to be quality, otherwise nolan wouldn't have done it in the first place. Nolan doesn't care about money like the rest of these directors, he's just out to make a great, unique film.

And I don't think we have to worry about the lack of violence that the Joker will bring, either. I mean, it took the guy five minutes to kill four people (hint, hint, prologue..cough...um, yeah...) Killing two directly, and the others indirectly.

Paul WS Anderson also writes and directs...what is your point? While conversely, Spielberg and Scorsese, two of the most acclaimed directors of all time, hardly ever write their own films.

Nolan is great, a fantastic filmmaker. But he's not the only capable director on earth. It would be doing him as well as all of us a favor if you stop the blind fanboyism.

 

[Hole Shot]

I think all this PG talk is referring to the trailer itself.

 

[jimmy]

They are probably just too lazy to add the 13.

 

[Smit84]

The blogger meant PG in a broad sense as others have pointed out. PG-13 is just a more cautionary PG. Also, "no real violence" means that the violence will not be graphic. I personally love that it will be a character driven story with a few big action set pieces.