Vengeance of the Moon Knight

[Saved]

I was being facetious cause its ridiculous how many titles Deadpool has been in this past year (and now this year).

 

[Drz]

Soon Mainstream Deadpool will travel to the Ultimate universe.

 

[Dread]

I was being facetious cause its ridiculous how many titles Deadpool has been in this past year (and now this year).

I see. Yeah, in March Deadpool will be in some 7-9 books, including 3 of his own. Marvel is risking burning him out quickly they they did to Ghost Rider and Punisher in the 90's.

Soon Mainstream Deadpool will travel to the Ultimate universe.

Technically, he's already been involved with the Marvel Zombies Universe, and that universe crossed over with the Ultimate Universe at the start. So he's close.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Maybe Hurwitz just wants to have his own "crazy hero" Moon Knight cross paths with other heroes or anti-heroes known for being insane. That was part of what made the chat with the Sentry cool and Deadpool is also known for being nuts, only unlike Sentry or Moon Knight, he doesn't fight it.

Loeb writes everything poorly these days. He's five years removed from anything he wrote that even approached mediocre. But I already got yelled at once for calling him the "h" word, so I won't. Let's say it rhymes with "flack". HULK and ULTIMATUM in particular have been not merely bad, but so awful that they seem to genuinely insult the intelligence of the reader with a "this will do, it's only comic books, not TV" attitude. Granted, Loeb's writing also ran a season of HEROES into the ground, didn't it? He's got the kiss of death lately; even the relaunch of INCREDIBLE HULK is starting to tank in sales because of association to HULK. It is surprising as he once was a very dependable writer, especially alongside Tim Sale, but, as I said once elsewhere, THE LONG HALLOWEEN was, indeed, a LONG time ago.

How bad was ULTIMATUM? To paraphrase a line from HAPPY GILMORE, "anyone who has read it is now dumber for having been witness to it. I award it no points, and may God have mercy on its soul."

Yea it's a shame, Long Halloween is one of my favourite Bat stories ever. What has happened to Loeb to come down this far this fast?

I see. Yeah, in March Deadpool will be in some 7-9 books, including 3 of his own. Marvel is risking burning him out quickly they they did to Ghost Rider and Punisher in the 90's.

Yea it does worry me, definitely.

But I'm not being funny, Deadpool is no Punisher. By that I mean, he isn't a walking talking one note cliche (when written well anyway). And as I think you've mentioned before Dread, magic/sorcery characters don't really get massive followings or long established runs.

Most importantly I think by Pool's very nature ie being a satirical, self parody type character he stands a better chance of surviving a possible backlash than Punisher or GR. I mean, Deadpool himself could take the side of the comic book reader "What, not ANOTHER Deadpool book!?!" lol.

I just hope Marvel give him to decent writers who can get that satire and sardonic humour across, and not writers who think he is just a motor mouth.

 

[NightBeetle]

Vengeance of Moon Knight #7 Preview

"KILLED, NOT DEAD," PART 1
Guest-starring Deadpool! Herman Goncharenko lies at death's door, wasting away of cancer, but someone wants him killed, not dead. Someone desperate enough to hire a certain mouthy mercenary to do the job. Gonchrenko's only hope just might be the reformed Moon Knight - if he's able to withstand the force of nature known as Deadpool, and if Goncharenko is, indeed, worth saving.

 

[chris moore]

What was with MK on the preceding page in the preview? He seemed to have his costume floating over to him in segments or something. Is he one of the Centurians now or something?

 

[kguillou]

I wasnt sure if this was the right place to post this but, i just recently read Charlie Huston's run on Moon Knight and damn, i've never read something so confusing in my life. The funny thing is...i dont exactly know why it was confusing to read, its just his writing style was really hard to follow. The way his characters spoke and acted and the way he structured the stories just really threw me off I think. That and i dont think David Finch was the right match with Huston's script.

Right now i'm in the middle of Benson and Texiera's run and i'm loving that one so much more than Huston. It just seems to flow better. Anyway anyone else feel the same?

 

[Ace of Knaves]

I liked Hustons personally. I think it was meant to throw you off. It was meant to make the reader off balance to match what the character was going through at the time.

 

[Hound55]

I preferred Huston/Finch myself, honestly.

But I'm still giving VoftheMK a run, although I think its strayed a little too fast from the previous continuity.

 

[Hound55]

Read through issue 5.

Pretty damn disappointed. As different as Huston's was from the classic I think he still had a FAR better grasp of the character and the main characters around him than Hurwitz does, and had a better direction as well.

Just hoping Hurwitz hurries up with working MK through this whole "finding himself" period he's in, because I'm getting pretty irritated with several aspects which are repeating (and appear to be what the character is becoming under Hurwitz).

Not just Spector either...

 

[NightBeetle]

VENGEANCE OF THE MOON KNIGHT #8
Written by GREGG HURWITZ
Penciled by TAN ENG HUAT
Cover by BRYAN HITCH
Heroic Age Variant by JOSH MEDORS
“KILLED, NOT DEAD,” Part 2
It’s crazy versus crazier when Moon Knight squares off against Deadpool! Herman Goncharenko lies at death’s door, wasting away of cancer, but someone wants him killed, not dead. Someone desperate enough to hire the Merc with the Mouth to do the dirty deed. Gonchrenko’s only hope: the reformed Moon Knight. But is he in Deadpool’s weight class? Heck, is anyone?
32 PGS./Parental Advisory ...$2.99

 

[NightBeetle]

Moon Knight: Heroic Age

Next week, the opening "Shock and Awe" arc of Marvel Comics' "Vengeance of the Moon Knight" comes to a close with issue #6 and a major throwdown between the masked vigilante now known as Jake Lockely and his arch-nemesis Bushman. But the adventure of the Fist of Khonshu won't stop there, as Moon Knight barrels directly into the Marvel Universe's Heroic Age with June's issue #9 from writer Gregg Hurwitz.

"What 'Shock and Awe' was about was Moon Knight reinserting himself in the Marvel Universe and seeing if he could hold his demons at bay," Hurwitz told CBR in discussing the new arc. "It's a logical escalation for him to move into this new Heroic Age, because my plan with Moon Knight is to take this terrific character with multiple personalities who's a little unstable and put him under more and more pressure. We've seen those cracks start forming, and the question is, can he become a real hero in the Marvel Universe or will he shatter and return to his old ways? That's really the ticking time bomb I'm playing with. How long can he adhere to the rules of the new superheroes arriving in Manhattan?"

The writer explained that part and parcel of pushing Moon Knight up against the out in the open superheroes who will be operating as part of the Heroic Age is threading a string of guest stars into the book, including Deadpool in issues #7 and 8 and then the return of the Amazing Spider-Man in #9, who last crossed paths with the vigilante in last month's issue #5.

"We have seen this entry and ripple effect through the Marvel Universe. Deadpool is coming in, and you're seeing some more contained stories coming up immediately rather than a a big, ten-part story. Moon Knight's going to play in the Marvel Universe with his new status, and then I'm going to pick up these bigger questions of identity, the impact and blowback of his new status. And we're also going to see a fairly big event within Marvel Universe happen that will involve him, but I'm not at liberty to talk about that yet."

What Hurwitz could say about Lockely's future is that, despite his best efforts, the superhero may not be done with the god Khonshu or his past life as mercenary Marc Spector just yet. "Khonshu is the monster banging on the cellar door," he said. "For me, Khonshu is a representation. It's not that he isn't real, but how he works thematically is that he's the voice of all the things that Jake is trying to repress. The stronger that Jake tried to repress his urges and his past and how he is, the more the monster grows. That's something you'll see carried out through the next arc, and that's not a relationship that's ever going to be put to rest as long as I'm writing the book. It's a part of him. It's his shadow – his darkest fears and desires whispering in his ear."

While the character continues to sweat the pressure of a god constantly whispering in his ear, his relationships with fellow superheroes and anti-heroes will move forward as well, for better or for worse. "Moon Knight has arrived, and people are aware of him in a way that is comprehensively different than it's been in the past," Hurwitz said. "There's some stuff coming down the pike that's the fulfillment of Moon Knight being back in the Marvel Universe in a big way. We're going to see the full range of Moon Knight as things move on. One of the things I've been playing with in this first arc was that, when he came back, it was more street level, even though he has all these gadgets, but a large part of it was him not wanting to acknowledge the specific history that's been tied to Marc Spector.

"He has all these files from his assassinations, and the sitrep reports from his military career are buried away in this closet, almost like they're in repression. It's not a coincidence that they're guarded over by Khonshu. That's the past he's been not wanting to face or acknowledge, but he wanted to see them to know what The Profile could get on him to try and track him down. He's called back to them strategically in the plot. This first arc has been about 'How long can Jake be Jake?,' because if he starts to take on Marc again, it's the insanity of multiple roles. And there's a rich history there of being a mercenary – a killer for money. That's what he's been trying to lock up in the cellar."

Ultimately, , explained Hurwitz, that's the point. Even in a Heroic Age where the moon-clad vigilante isn't on the run from the authorities, there's still plenty of darkness lurking at the edges of his life. "I'm not going to send him in an age where there's calm and order and no conflict. No one wants to read about that. With Moon Knight, things rarely stay calm for long. That is one of the promises of the character. At his heart is the struggle for his identity."

And readers interested in finding out what the next phase of the lunar hero's identity crisis will be can see his ultimate breaking point in the issue on sale March 17, according to Hurwitz. "#6 is the ultiamate confrontation between him and his original nemesis, Bushman. The question is, when these two finally go face-to-face and have a knock down, drag out brawl...which way will Moon Knight go? This is his original, hated enemy. It's key to the mythology of Moon Knight. Last time they met, he cut Bushman's face off. This is the big temptation of his life as a hero. We have an expectation when these two characters get together that one is going to kill the other. How far can you go in the face of your rage and your history?"

 

[Dread]

It is interesting to see Moon Knight survive, as his sales haven't been the best. They're not SWORD and DOCTOR VOODOO bad, but roughly back to the same level as his last volume. Still, I expect it to last to issue #10-#12. I'm enjoying it, although I will miss issues not drawn by Opena.

 

[Saved]

Nice issue. It had one of the coolest sequences I've seen in comics in a while.

Spoiler

Moon Knight hunting Bushman in a warehouse and finding him standing behind him. It's cooler than the way I explained it....

The rest of the issue went by pretty fast and got hard to follow, but that's been my main problem with this series - they try to fit too much in one issue and the story gets lost a little bit because of it. All in all, good issue. I'm staying on board. Especially cause of the ending.

 

[NightBeetle]

Dp....

 

[NightBeetle]

First Look: Moon Knight #9

Written by: Gregg Hurwitz
Art by: Juan Jose Ryp
Price: $3.99
Release Date: June 3, 2010

"COLLISION"

Special, double-sized issue! Moon Knight said he wanted to be a super hero – now he's getting his chance. Step one of his education: a team-up. When a hopping mad, skyscraper-tall Sandman goes beserk in Times Square, Moon Knight is gonna need a bigger boat… and some help. Enter: Spider-Man.

Plus, the shock ending that will have fans talking for months!

- Marvel

 

[Dread]

Wow, the art there is exceptional.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Just read #7. Pretty good. I liked the way it showed the differences and similarities between Moony and Pool. And it leaves Marc questioning whether he did actually enjoy being a nut case and killing instead of being a more straight forward hero.

Deadpool was actually funny for the first time in a while too.

 

[Saved]

I thought [blackout]Lockley[/blackout] was in control thanks to that arc in the last title Down South?

Anyway, I enjoyed the issue. Wasn't as ridiculous as I thought it may be, considering Deadpool was guest starring. It's not like I don't like the merc with a mouth - I love him; I just want to love him in one of his current 3-5 titles.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Is he? Oh i dunno, i didn't catch the last arc.

And yea i'm with you on Deadpool. I think everyone knows i'm a massive Deadpool fan. And over exposure doesn't bother me at all... as long as the appearances are written well and worth while. Which recently, 90% of them ain't.

But this one was pretty cool, and his appearance made for some decent character moments between the two instead of just insane humour and action.

Maybe there wasn't enough character moments though. Hopefully there will be more in the next ish.

 

[Hound55]

MK is a good blend with DP though, I'd have been more surprised and disappointed if they couldn't get a good story out of it, rather than amazed that they made it work.

There's A LOT there for a writer to work with.

 

[Saved]

Anyone feel like that line about "the abyss" was a rip off of what Batman said in JLA Crisis on two earths?

 

[Ace of Knaves]

I never read it. But if it was a rip, i suppose the writer could hide behind the fact that Deadpool said it.

 

[Saved]

Actually, I was referring to the DTV movie.