The Flash Wally West

[Human Torch]

Just as they chose that ghastly retcon of Barry's childhood

Yeah.For some reason he needed a traumatic back story,I guess.

 

[The Caped Knight]

I'd love to see Wally West, but given how this series just started I don't see Kid flash coming in until perhaps season 4 or 5 if it even makes it that far.

 

[KillerMcQueen]

I'd love to see Wally West, but given how this series just started I don't see Kid flash coming in until perhaps season 4 or 5 if it even makes it that far.

I don't see why it wouldn't, CW has a history of shows frequently pulling 7-10 seasons. Smallville lasted 10 and Supernatural is on season 10 and seems like it'll keep going. Flash and Arrow should have no issues pulling several seasons each.

 

[DrCosmic]

I wouldn't say frequently, but the shows that do well and cultivate a fanbase, CW sticks by them through thick and thin. They're, like, the inverse of Fox in that way. Arrow's likely to go the distance. Flash, if it fires on the same number of cylinders, it may indeed do just that.

 

[Jason Kane]

Yeah.For some reason he needed a traumatic back story,I guess.

Johns better pray the next generation of writers and editors doesn't kill off Stargirl in revenge. Just (randomly) throwing that out there

 

[Panthro]

Given that DC racebended Wally, wouldn't it be hilarious if Berlanti and co does the opposite and have him (while in his true pre-52 state) be adopted only to piss off the Didiot?

I'd support that 110%

 

[SCC]

Wally for season 2?

 

[godisawesome]

I'm expecting major shakeup in the main heroic ensemble for season 2, and considering the pacing this creative team has shown, I wouldn't be surprised...

 

[The Caped Knight]

Season 2 I foresee Wally's introduction into the series, but not necessary him becoming Kid Flash until season 3.

 

[Norek]

Season 2 I foresee Wally's introduction into the series, but not necessary him becoming Kid Flash until season 3.

Yup, he turns out to be a street vigilante wannabe with a red hoodie and who hits on Barry's sister... Oopss, wrong show!

 

[Eni]

Yup, he turns out to be a street vigilante wannabe with a red hoodie and who hits on Barry's sister... Oopss, wrong show!

OMG, don't jinx it! XD

It is kind of sad that I really wouldn't be surprsied should that happened, considering what they have done with Wally in the actual comics for the last couple of months.

I hope the Wally they introdue is much more like the one from pre-New52, not necessarily caucasian but much less emo and much more fun to watch.

 

[Fans of Reilly]

seeing that Detective Joe West Has only one daughter Bart Allen has the bigger chance to show up

 

[Eni]

seeing that Detective Joe West Has only one daughter Bart Allen has the bigger chance to show up

Well, maybe Iris has some half-siblings and they could have Wally as a son or there is also the theory that he could be Iris' cousin instead of nephew. I don't think that it will be really an issue for the writers to explain Wally's relation to the Wests, should they not give him totally new origins.

I think it will probably take a while longer before they introduce Bart, I guess that they will establish Wally as Kid Flash or another Flash at first before they go there, though, who knows.

 

[Breogan]

How does NU52 Wally get his powers?

As this been revealed, explained?

 

[Breogan]

Johns better pray the next generation of writers and editors doesn't kill off Stargirl in revenge. Just (randomly) throwing that out there

Seems like something only bitter fans would want or think about(especially if you know the inspiration for her character) , I would hope that a future writer/editor would have something on their mind other than taking some bitter delusional revenge, just for re-imagining a character.

I'd love it if on the show a young Wally was introduced as a relation of Iris and Joe's.
Maybe a kid who discovers he has a variation on the power, having trouble controlling it, who they all mentor into a hero!

Maybe a long build up to a season where the Flash is taken out/sacrificed (crisis) and the kid has to carry the burden of taking up the mantle himself.

 

[The Sarge]

I didn't know Wally had been reintroduced as a black teen.
That new costume is pretty garrish.

 

[coluanprime]

I think most people's problem with Wally being black is that now, he's a troubled stereotypical "rough" black kid. Instead of actually writing, they just used a (racist) trope: He's black therefore he is a problem kid.

 

[Fans of Reilly]

I think most people's problem with Wally being black is that now, he's a troubled stereotypical "rough" black kid. Instead of actually writing, they just used a (racist) trope: He's black therefore he is a problem kid.

My problem is not with the color of his skin, my problem with hair color Wally West needs to be a red head

 

[Panthro]

Johns better pray the next generation of writers and editors doesn't kill off Stargirl in revenge. Just (randomly) throwing that out there

Is Stargirl even a big enough character among fans at this point for her [hypothetical] death to even cause a stir?

I think most people's problem with Wally being black is that now, he's a troubled stereotypical "rough" black kid. Instead of actually writing, they just used a (racist) trope: He's black therefore he is a problem kid.

Yeah, that is another problem - he's not a character anymore, he's just an ugly caricature. Apparently they justified the change by saying that the original - and for all intents and purposes real - Wally was that he was "too Norman Rockwell", and yet Barry Allen, who comes from that same Norman Rockwell era, is still white. Absurd, to say the least.

 

[Kirmit]

I hope if/when they introduce Wally in the show they don't make him faster than Barry like in the comics, I'd like Barry to remain the fastest man alive.

 

[Jason Kane]

Is Stargirl even a big enough character among fans at this point for her [hypothetical] death to even cause a stir?

To ruffle Johns' feathers, yeah

Yeah, that is another problem - he's not a character anymore, he's just an ugly caricature. Apparently they justified the change by saying that the original - and for all intents and purposes real - Wally was that he was "too Norman Rockwell", and yet Barry Allen, who comes from that same Norman Rockwell era, is still white. Absurd, to say the least.

Absurd and twisted to say the least. DC's made easier for me not to give The New 52 or the show (and Arrow) a look-in knowing this was motivated to rub feces at Wally's fanbase even so much as to pawn Linda off on TV!Barry rather than use Fiona or that Patty Spivot broad my mate told be about

 

[famicommander]

I think most people's problem with Wally being black is that now, he's a troubled stereotypical "rough" black kid. Instead of actually writing, they just used a (racist) trope: He's black therefore he is a problem kid.

This is such an ignorant cop out of an argument.

Wally is not stereotypical in any sense. He is "troubled" for very specific reasons, and he lashes out for very specific reasons.

He's mad at the Flash in particular because he lost contact with his mother during one of the sieges on the city by Flash's enemies. Then, Flash locks up his uncle Daniel, formerly one of the only people Wally cared about.

Barry helping Wally isn't "the white man's burden"; it's Barry feeling guilty about circumstances HE directly or indirectly inflicted upon the kid.

It's not like Wally was joining a gang or stealing; he was caught painting anti-Flash graffiti on a wall.

For the record, I agree that it was dumb to change Wally's race. They did it just so they could pat themselves on the back for being "progressive" or "diverse", and they decided to just change an existing character because they didn't want to put the effort into establishing a NEW character to be a black (or whatever other race) Kid Flash.

It's not racist every time a black person is portrayed in the media as having troubles; especially when the reasons for those troubles are explicitly laid out and subsequently addressed.

EDIT:

To get back to the topic at hand, I want Flash to be more established before he gets a sidekick. I thought the same thing when Ollie started picking up sidekicks on Arrow, but at least Ollie had a five year head start on being a badass before he started taking people under his wing. Barry is literally just starting out, and there are a lot of ways he needs to be shown growing as a hero before he starts training someone else.

Season four, or late season three at the earliest before we see Wally. At least for me.

 

[KillerMcQueen]

To ruffle Johns' feathers, yeah



Absurd and twisted to say the least. DC's made easier for me not to give The New 52 or the show (and Arrow) a look-in knowing this was motivated to rub feces at Wally's fanbase even so much as to pawn Linda off on TV!Barry rather than use Fiona or that Patty Spivot broad my mate told be about

You sir, are being ridiculous, the reasons you give for not giving the shows a look are laughable, I'm a huge Wally fan, but I'm not gonna throw a fit like a three year old just because they put a major character of his on a Barry Allen Flash show, the show probably won't run so long that Wally will be fully established and developed as Flash, they simply can't count on having the time to get to Wally and his supporting cast, which would mean the show running well past 10 seasons, so I have a hard time getting annoyed at seeing versions of Wally characters on the show. Also, if you aren't gonna watch the show, please don't bother posting complaints about it in its forums since you haven't even bothered to give the show a chance.

 

[KillerMcQueen]

I want Flash to be more established before he gets a sidekick. I thought the same thing when Ollie started picking up sidekicks on Arrow, but at least Ollie had a five year head start on being a badass before he started taking people under his wing. Barry is literally just starting out, and there are a lot of ways he needs to be shown growing as a hero before he starts training someone else.

Season four, or late season three at the earliest before we see Wally. At least for me.

I don't want to have to wait 3 seasons before we meet Wally, he doesn't have to get his powers and become a sidekick instantly, he can be around for awhile before he gets them, but I want him to be introduced as a character sometime between now and the end of season 2.

 

[gspot]

I was thinking about how they can introduce Wally in a couple seasons.

Has it been established what happened to Iris' mom? Did she divorce Joe, or was she killed? Perhaps Iris wasn't an only child? What if Iris' older sibling left with her mom after the divorce? Or if Mrs West was killed perhaps whatever took the life of Joe West's wife, also presumably killed Iris' older sibling? Only to be revealed as the show moves on that Iris' brother or sister didn't die and has a child? That would allow for Wally to be introduced without any major revisions to his character.....