Homecoming Was the 2012 reboot pointless?

[Nemeres]

I'm sure even this comes down to degrees. There's stuff about the TASM series that worked, that was appealing. If they throw that in mix for the next movie/reboot, then no, 100% pointless it was not, because it gave way to a new (more hip, modern, contemporary) interpretation that could serve as a building ground for the future.

But getting down to the brass tacks... it just didn't do/was what it was supposed to do/be. I don't think that's even a matter of opinion, but a fact that became crystal clear at some point during this year. So I guess it depends on whether you're a glass half empty/half full type of person.

 

[allthingsuper]

Ill just say that even thigh I don't much care for TASM2, I will still take jot over SM3. TASm2 has some good parts, where there is literally no character in SM3 that I can root for. Every character is an unlikeable pr!ck.

 

[Spider-Gnome]

To me it was a waste.

In hindsight with what may be happening, it would have been great at the time Sony scrapped SM4 and Disney bought Marvel, they made the deal right there and then, with Marvel Studios in creative control. We would have had two GOOD Spider-Man movies and there would be no problem with having Spider-Man in Civil War. (And maybe Sensational could have continued.)

 

[HarryOsborn]

To me it was a waste.

In hindsight with what may be happening, it would have been great at the time Sony scrapped SM4 and Disney bought Marvel, they made the deal right there and then, with Marvel Studios in creative control. We would have had two GOOD Spider-Man movies and there would be no problem with having Spider-Man in Civil War. (And maybe Sensational could have continued.)

Honestly I would have been pissed and so would a lot of other back in 2010. At that point Marvel was meh at best and had only released Iron Man and the Incredible Hulk. The Avengers had been teased, but Iron Man 2 hadn't even come out so the shared universe wasn't even realized (and with how bad Iron Man 2 ended up, I for one would have been livid). With hindsight being 20/20 it would have been a good time for Marvel to start with a new Spider-Man, but like I said, I don't believe I or many fans would have reacted all that differently.

 

[random_havoc]

The reboot was a great idea that was terribly executed. Putting Peter back in High School is gold for material (as is clearly seen in the first hundred issues or so of Ultimate Spider-Man).

It was also necessary to get rid of the Power Rangers' masked Green Goblin and terrible Venom, and terrible Hobgoblin, and terrible "Sandman really killed uncle Ben" crap.

All that said ASM1 was okay, and ASM2 was vomit. I hope they reboot again with Marvel in full and permanent legal control.

 

[ironwez20]

I was on board for it in ASM but when two came out and they forced this universe on us and "tried" to hype up the sinister six movie with that horrible end credits montage I knew that this franchise was in trouble. Nobody likes it and respect for spidey is going down. When iron man and cap are more popular than the face of marvel then your doing something wrong.

 

[Spider-Vader]

If i knew that the series would end after TASM2, I would not have been okay with them using The Night Gwen Stacy Died.

Not only do I feel this way because of the abrupt ending, but because of the fact that it had a ripple effect on characters such as the Green Goblin. They literally only had him in there to kill Gwen, serving no other purpose whatsoever (contrary to the comics).

I think it's safe to say Marvel will avoid using arcs and villains that have been recently used, and it's a shame that one of the greatest stories in comics will go down the drain with this series.

Why do you have to make me feel sad dude?

 

[W/ Great Power]

Why do you have to make me feel sad dude?

I know the feels, sir.

I am bummed out about it.

 

[JOE]

The Amazing Spider-Man ending at 2 is the best thing that could happen to this franchise. Imagine what they'd shoehorn into TASM 3? We'd have 14 villains and 12 sub-plots.

 

[Venom'sDad]

The Amazing Spider-Man ending at 2 is the best thing that could happen to this franchise. Imagine what they'd shoehorn into TASM 3? We'd have 14 villains and 12 sub-plots.

Link Please!!!

 

[harryoscop]

 

[JOE]

Link Please!!!

Lizard's return.
Billy Connors the human iguana.
Electro.
Electro's mom, the birthday joy thief.
Harry Goblin.
Norman Goblin.
Emma Stone comes back as a robotic spider-slayer.
Rhino.
Laundry Sheriff.
Aunt Carnage.
Dr. Kafka A.K.A Hydro Man, since y'know.
J.J. gets bitten by a radioactive printer and becomes NewsPaperMan.
Alistair Smythe.
Guy who killed Uncle Ben actually works for "10 Minute Success Rice" and wanted to get rid of the competition.

Don't worry guys, it's going to be ACTION PACKED!

 

[Venom'sDad]

Lizard's return.
Billy Connors the human iguana.
Electro.
Electro's mom, the birthday joy thief.
Harry Goblin.
Norman Goblin.
Emma Stone comes back as a robotic spider-slayer.
Rhino.
Laundry Sheriff.
Aunt Carnage.
Dr. Kafka A.K.A Hydro Man, since y'know.
J.J. gets bitten by a radioactive printer and becomes NewsPaperMan.
Alistair Smythe.
Guy who killed Uncle Ben actually works for "10 Minute Success Rice" and wanted to get rid of the competition.

Don't worry guys, it's going to be ACTION PACKED!

Who was confirm as the main villain? Is it The Guy....gotta be, he's a more personal villain to Peter....the Laundry Sheriff could be too. Hmmmm

 

[HarryOsborn]

The Amazing Spider-Man ending at 2 is the best thing that could happen to this franchise. Imagine what they'd shoehorn into TASM 3? We'd have 14 villains and 12 sub-plots.

ASM3 was supposed to have 5 villains according to Arad.

 

[spiderman2]

ASM3 was supposed to have 5 villains according to Arad.

I think asm3 was going to be sm fighting the sinister six. I think that was the point of sinister six to introduce the another villains and then have him fight the six in asm3. Really asm2 didn't have that many subplots like people act like. The movie was basicly about peter and gwens love and peter felling guilty for the promise to gwens dad and about peter trying to find out about his parents.

 

[spiderman2]

The original film was largely following in the footsteps of TDK, look at all of the producers comments on how the film was the first in a trilogy, and they went above and beyond to set one up. However like you said the sequel was trying too hard to jump on the Avengers Shared Universe bandwagon, when it really hadn't been set up.

As for the rest of the comment, the ASM2 was not "brighter" it was actually much cheesier than the Raimi films. The Raimi films had some cheesy lines like "eat your green vegetables" and a decent amount of camp, but TASM2 was essentially Batman Forever.

I found all of the rami spider mans to be far far more chessy then asm1 or 2. That is one of the things I like about asm1 and 2 far less chessy. I never realized just how chessy sm 1-3 where in till after I saw asm1 and 2. The only chessy thing in asm2 was its my birthday, the fish thing when peter is saving people and max talking to him self in his apartment. People saying the movie is chessy is one of the most wrong things I have ever heard about any movie ever!

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

It wasn't pointless until ASM2 and they tried to make the series cheesy like SM1-3.

 

[The Joker]

The original film was largely following in the footsteps of TDK, look at all of the producers comments on how the film was the first in a trilogy, and they went above and beyond to set one up. However like you said the sequel was trying too hard to jump on the Avengers Shared Universe bandwagon, when it really hadn't been set up.

As for the rest of the comment, the ASM2 was not "brighter" it was actually much cheesier than the Raimi films. The Raimi films had some cheesy lines like "eat your green vegetables" and a decent amount of camp, but TASM2 was essentially Batman Forever.

This

TASM 2 could easily have been directed by Joel Schumacher.

 

[spider-neil]

I don't think the ASM series was pointless because it gave us Garfield and Stone, a wise cracking Spider-Man plus there were wonderful set pieces in both movies. A real pity, Garfield and Stone are the right actors for Spider-Man in the wrong era of the Spider-Man franchise.

 

[HarryOsborn]

I found all of the rami spider mans to be far far more chessy then asm1 or 2. That is one of the things I like about asm1 and 2 far less chessy. I never realized just how chessy sm 1-3 where in till after I saw asm1 and 2. The only chessy thing in asm2 was its my birthday, the fish thing when peter is saving people and max talking to him self in his apartment. People saying the movie is chessy is one of the most wrong things I have ever heard about any movie ever!

Max Dillon was a black man with a combover and Paul Giammatti was a cartoon. I agree, the ASM1 was a more serious film than SM1 in a lot of ways, but the ASM2 took the camp and amped it up to Schumacher levels. Lol that "it's my birthday" line was hilarious in the theater, especially since it has that delay before the punchline!

 

[The Infernal]

I think it was a waste of time. Both then and now. Now because of where they steered this series and then because they could have went with SM4 even without Raimi and co.

 

[Mr.M]

It was as pointless as the Timothy Dalton Bond movies. You can't get it right every time out. For every good adaptation there are three bad ones. At this point, you need to minimize the damage going forward.

Look at Batman. They had to take a break from the solo films after the trilogy. Now teamups are trending. Don't expect to see a solo Batman film until at least two if not three ensemble films.

With Spidey, the solo films are out of trend. Nobody has a vested interest at this point. He needs to appear in a big crossover before more solo films. Instead of rebooting, they could have made an awful SM4 movie and we would still have the same net result (only exception being you'd still have the reboot card in the back pocket). So we are in a worse situation than Batman after 98' believe it or not. ASM 3 will not be a profitable film unless they drastically cut expenses.

 

[Decepticonus]

I found all of the rami spider mans to be far far more chessy then asm1 or 2. That is one of the things I like about asm1 and 2 far less chessy. I never realized just how chessy sm 1-3 where in till after I saw asm1 and 2. The only chessy thing in asm2 was its my birthday, the fish thing when peter is saving people and max talking to him self in his apartment. People saying the movie is chessy is one of the most wrong things I have ever heard about any movie ever!

AGREED! I cannot even bare to watch the Raimi films anymore

"You're the one whos out Gobby. Out of your mind!" HA
Yeah, someone was paid to write that line and then they paid another person to recite that line.

Everyone is saying the reboot is pointless BECAUSE of ASM2 for the most part it seems. The producers admitted they wanted to carry on after 3 BUT didn't know how. Harry is dead, alot of villains are used up and well dead. Meanwhile Peter & MJ are uh yeah together-ish again maybe, er maybe not. Yeah, the ending wasn't clear. Though it made them good money critically it was not in their favor.
I for one enjoy the reboot and was happy to see him in high school again and I enjoyed ASM2 very much. Better than that crap FOX puts out or Iron Man sequels, ugh.

 

[BatsDC]

Pointless? No. It is personally my favourite Spidey movie, and it set up what could have potentially been a fantastic franchise. They could have easily linked it to the MCU too.

Sony ruined it, and in the end it's them who are suffering for it, so I don't see it as pointless at all. In many ways the reboot is the reason we're now hearing about these exciting talks between Marvel and Sony.

 

[Spider-Gnome]

I don't think the ASM series was pointless because it gave us Garfield and Stone, a wise cracking Spider-Man plus there were wonderful set pieces in both movies. A real pity, Garfield and Stone are the right actors for Spider-Man in the wrong era of the Spider-Man franchise.

In my scenario, where Sony made the deal with Marvel right then when they did the reboot, Marvel Studios would have handled The Amazing Spider-Man movies (sort of The Incredible Hulk deal) and they would have been better, we would already have Spider-Man in the MCU, no problems with Spidey being in Civil War, and Garfield would still be Spider-Man...