WB & DC Meet For A Summit

[Nixon]

Yeah, I'm still failing to see how any of that is Bryan Singer's fault.

Given how well it ties into Batman Begins (not very) and the fact that it aired a full year before the movie came out I can't imagine the they did too much talking to Nolan before ramping out The Batman.

It just seems like some odd reasoning to not do a show because they didn't know exactly what Singer had planned; if the WB really wanted a Superman cartoon, they could've had one regardless of Bryan Singer's plans. Or, you know, they could've just asked him what those plans were. Or read his treatment for the story.

 

[charl_huntress]

They wanted one that tied in to the movie like The Batman which is clearly a show about young Bruce Wayne just becoming Batman....uh...sort of like Batman Begins.

Can you not see the kiddie marketing that is there...and strangely. The only problem I had with that show was their depiction of the Joker. I thought he was too cruel in comparison to BTAS and BNAS. Yet...we get a all new Joker sort of like the one in the show...hmmm

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DC put the kibosh down on a lot of DC stuff in relation to BSinger. Smallville couldn't do anything with Lois because of SR. JL/JLU couldn't reveal Superman's identity to Lois because of SR. The list is endless my friend of all the things that were STOPPED because of BSinger.

 

[Nixon]

No I get that they wanted a tie in show, what I don't get is why they didn't think to just ask Bryan Singer what was going on if they wanted one so badly and why it's his fault that they didn't do that.

 

[charl_huntress]

No I get that they wanted a tie in show, what I don't get is why they didn't think to just ask Bryan Singer what was going on if they wanted one so badly and why it's his fault that they didn't do that.

Well...we did get a cartoon...sort of...just not based on anything in SR

 

[Nixon]

That eyeroll is great, but it still doesn't answer my question about how it's Bryan Singer's fault thye didn't make a straight-up Superman cartoon.

 

[RobinWB]

Mostly because the movie was a bastardization of an iconic character BY A director with no vision.

Totally Agree Singer is dull and Garbage and Nolan is not to far off from him!

 

[charl_huntress]

I was rolling my eyes at the LOSH premise...not you

It's his fault because he didn't make a good movie....

Seriously, when I asked this question the way interpreted the response that DC was putting a lot of credence in Singer's vision, and they didn't want any other interpretations to play havoc with Superman Returns. Now, I don't know if Singer is directly to blame, but his vision of Superman is the reason we don't have a full out Sueprman cartoon.

 

[Nixon]

Wow, so rare that you meet someone who dislikes them both.

What did you dislike about Nolan's Batman?

 

[storyteller]

About time, its kinda sad that the only jewel to show is smallville(terrible superman show). The wb really been slow on the superhero thing. marvel got 2 films out just this year on their own. Marvel has had trilogies. Darkhorse has planted its feet. The wb should really try to get a few films out next year. If they start production at the end of the year they could have a few films out by late 2009.

 

[RobinWB]

Maybe, I might not. I loved Spiderman and Spiderman 2, hated the 3rd. How can you know either way until it happens? I would want to enjoy any Superman movie that is made, but you can't know if you will until you see it.

show do you know for sure if its going to be a reboot??

 

[RobinWB]

Wow, so rare that you meet someone who dislikes them both.

What did you dislike about Nolan's Batman?

i cant stand his realism stance on every thing to the point, of changing characters to his vision! just like Bryan Moron singer! im all fine with a dark batman, but when you start ruling out charcaters because they dont fit into your realistic "universe" (ugh) your being arrogant egotistical Unimaginative and stupid!

 

[Lord Blackbolt]

They could base a cartoon on Singers Superman movie....but it would suck...wanna know why...

It would probably be about Superman and his bastard kid with superpowers going on adventures together. Just like that crappy Mummy cartoon that came after the movie

 

[charl_huntress]

^^Hence the reason we have no cartoon.

 

[Nixon]

I was rolling my eyes at the LOSH premise...not you

It's his fault because he didn't make a good movie....

Seriously, when I asked this question the way interpreted the response that DC was putting a lot of credence in Singer's vision, and they didn't want any other interpretations to play havoc with Superman Returns. Now, I don't know if Singer is directly to blame, but his vision of Superman is the reason we don't have a full out Sueprman cartoon.

If they didn't want anything else to play havoc with his vision then why let Smallville keep running?

If they wanted something to tie closely into his vision why not ask him what that vision is? It's not like he didn't have an idea of what he wanted to do when he was hired on. It's not like he disappeared for a year and a half without telling anyone what he was doing only to then show up with some film cans.

Something doesn't make sense.

 

[Nixon]

They could base a cartoon on Singers Superman movie....but it would suck...wanna know why...

It would probably be about Superman and his bastard kid with superpowers going on adventures together. Just like that crappy Mummy cartoon that came after the movie

^^Hence the reason we have no cartoon.

The reason we don't have a cartoon is because Bryan Singer made a movie that Lord Blackbolt didn't like?

 

[charl_huntress]

If they didn't want anything else to play havoc with his vision then why let Smallville keep running?

If they wanted something to tie closely into his vision why not ask him what that vision is? It's not like he didn't have an idea of what he wanted to do when he was hired on. It's not like he disappeared for a year and a half without telling anyone what he was doing only to then show up with some film cans.

Something doesn't make sense.

Smallville doesn't really mess with SR. However, there are serious restrictions on the usage of Lois and some other characters that are important to the later "Superman" mythos, which is what Singer's vision was all about. Those characters couldn't do certain things because of SR. I don't know if this still applies, but it was heavily in-effect and is known as the Superman-embargo. The same damn thing happened with JL/JLU and the Batman-embargo.

They wanted something to tie-in...they tried to get something to tie-in. Singer's vision wasn't appropo to a cartoon. That's kind of the point, but I will not say anyone in the know has directly said that....I think it was kind of implied

 

[RobinWB]

They could base a cartoon on Singers Superman movie....but it would suck...wanna know why...

It would probably be about Superman and his bastard kid with superpowers going on adventures together. Just like that crappy Mummy cartoon that came after the movie

LOL! too true which is wahy any Sequel to supermna RETURNS WOULD BE COMPLETE GARBAGE AS WELL!!! TOTAL REBOOT!!

 

[nintendo nerd]

LOL! too true which is wahy any Sequel to supermna RETURNS WOULD BE COMPLETE GARBAGE AS WELL!!! TOTAL REBOOT!!

Yes, let's make a JL movie with Welling, Supergirl, Krypto and all the Sper friends. And the new Batman movie could be like this:

 

[nintendo nerd]

If they didn't want anything else to play havoc with his vision then why let Smallville keep running?

If they wanted something to tie closely into his vision why not ask him what that vision is? It's not like he didn't have an idea of what he wanted to do when he was hired on. It's not like he disappeared for a year and a half without telling anyone what he was doing only to then show up with some film cans.

Something doesn't make sense.

Don't mess with Lord Balckbolt. One day he insulted me on a very personal way.

 

[Nixon]

Smallville doesn't really mess with SR. However, there are serious restrictions on the usage of Lois and some other characters that are important to the later "Superman" mythos, which is what Singer's vision was all about. Those characters couldn't do certain things because of SR. I don't know if this still applies, but it was heavily in-effect and is known as the Superman-embargo. The same damn thing happened with JL/JLU and the Batman-embargo.

They wanted something to tie-in...they tried to get something to tie-in. Singer's vision wasn't appropo to a cartoon. That's kind of the point, but I will not say anyone in the know has directly said that....I think it was kind of implied

Yeah, I think you're either reading between the lines wrong or the inner workings of WB are more messed up than anyone could've ever possibly imagined because that sort of thinking is ******ed.

 

[charl_huntress]

Yeah, I think you're either reading between the lines wrong or the inner workings of WB are more messed up than anyone could've ever possibly imagined because that sort of thinking is ******ed.

Really

Now that eye roll was for you.

edit:

It's time to go see HB, but go read up on this in the animation boards at Toonzone and JL Animated. Oops, sorry JL Animated no more... just go to Toonzone.

 

[nintendo nerd]

Really

Now that eye roll was for you.

 

[I Am The Knight]

Um, they could have made a cartoon exploring Superman's adventures prior to leaving and the events on SR...You know, filling the gap between STM and SR. It's not like it was impossible to come up with something.

 

[Lord Blackbolt]

The reason we don't have a cartoon is because Bryan Singer made a movie that Lord Blackbolt didn't like?

When did I say I didn't like Singers superman? I'm pretty indifferent on it. The movie lacked a lot of thought and plot IMO. It has a awesome premise that was totally and utterly messed up by hack writers. BUTTTT....I did like the look of the movie and just seeing superman on screen after so many years kind of made up for the crap writing. So I saw the movie at least 3 or 4 times....but each time I started to dislike it more and more....

All I'm saying is a cartoon based on the movie would totally SUCK. Adding a kid puts in a kiddy factor to a character that doesn't need more kiddy factor to it already cause he already has it. IMO...In a perfect world.....Richard Donner would have directed Superman 3...which would have had Brainiac...then End the series with Superman returns...with a older Chris Reeve and cast. Same plot as what was in the SR movie....and it would have actually worked more for me.

But everyone in the cast of Superman returns was too young. Routh was a great superman in the wrong superman movie. He should have been in a reboot, not the vague sequel...

 

[I Am The Knight]

Totally Agree Singer is dull and Garbage and Nolan is not to far off from him!

You hate both Singer AND Nolan?

There's no hope for ya.