Superman Returns WB, Singer, and the Sequel

[explode7]

Looks like WB is going to thow good money after bad money. I really hope they don't do it for 3 movies like they did with Batman.

Dude that is the best sig I've seen so far. Second to mine though

 

[Anita18]

Aww, he blushes!

 

[ThanosOfTitans]

An interesting article I found while surfing. I think that the WB will def continue just because they've invested so much in the franchise. But I'm pretty sure that we can all agree that if Singer does indeed return (which has not been finalized though it is seeming more and more likely...to my dismay) there will be stipulations established.

Warner Bros. in Talks with Singer for 'Superman Returns' Sequel

(August 16 2006) - Despite poor box office performance, Warner Bros. is reportedly trying to get Bryan Singer, who directed the film, to sign on for a "Superman Returns" sequel, according to IGN Filmforce.

Domestically, "Superman Returns" brought in less than $200 million, which makes it an underperformer by movie returns standards. However, Variety has reported that the industry speculates this moving forward for a sequel to be the result of the investment Warner Bros. has already made on the Superman franchise. “Negotiations between Singer and the studio would get delicate if Warners wants to include over-budget penalties,” Variety reported. This is something they may consider doing, since production and marketing costs of "Superman Returns" may, reportedly, cause Warner Bros. and its co-financing partner Legendary
Pictures, to lose $20 million apiece. - Article by Carma Spence-Pothitt

 

[Bad Superman]

Horn expects "Superman Returns" to eventually gross about $400 million worldwide, more than last year's hit "Batman Begins." Nonetheless, "Superman" fell at least $100 million short of his expectations.

"I thought it was a very successful movie, but I think it should have done $500 million worldwide," Horn said. "We should have had perhaps a little more action to satisfy the young male crowd."

How about an original story without unnecesary changes that hurt the film/story?

PS- Someone remind Horn Singer cut alot that could've benefitted the film such as the "Journey to Krypton" scene which cost $10 Million. . . .

 

[bosef982]

How about an original story without unnecesary changes that hurt the film/story?

PS- Someone remind Horn Singer cut alot that could've benefitted the film such as the "Journey to Krypton" scene which cost $10 Million. . . .

If Singer would left the scene in, nothing would have changed considering the fanboy reaction to the film. Whether he put it in or not, Singer's been caught in a notorious Catch-22 this entire time.

 

[ThanosOfTitans]

If Singer would left the scene in, nothing would have changed considering the fanboy reaction to the film. Whether he put it in or not, Singer's been caught in a notorious Catch-22 this entire time.

You make it seem as if Fanboy's make up even half of the general audience. Most of the general audience is everyday movie goers....not fanboys. even if the fanboys thought the film was fantastic (which is unlikely considering the film is very mediocre) it wouldn't have done well @ the box office..because the general audience didn't take well to it. the general audience is much larger and greater than the superman comic fanbase. plain and simple...the movie built up this tremendous hype around itself...and it just couldn't live up to it.

 

[Pickle-El]

25 Million people in the US have seen SR.......50,000 of which might constitute this very vocal minority known as fanboys.

I don't think the studios are trembling at that thought. Though, when they **** up, I'm sure they take a few notes. Never to the extreme of 'YOUR SUIT SUCKS SINGER, FIX THAT AWFUL ****!'.

I think they would find that a little too passive to actually listen. I don't blame them.

 

[ThanosOfTitans]

25 Million people in the US have seen SR.......50,000 of which might constitute this very vocal minority known as fanboys.

I don't think the studios are trembling at that thought. Though, when they **** up, I'm sure they take a few notes. Never to the extreme of 'YOUR SUIT SUCKS SINGER, FIX THAT AWFUL ****!'.

I think they would find that a little too passive to actually listen. I don't blame them.

I don't even think the studios needed to listen to the fanboys..they just needed to exercise common sense. superman was advertised as a summer blockbuster....based on a comic book! it's cool to make an attempt to appeal to the female audience...but u can't totally ignore the male counterpart...superman is a superhero whose powers are all physically enhanced! he is a physical character...so how can u not have him throw one punch? and then u're reintroducing the franchise after 20 years...and u think it's smart to just throw a bastard child in the mix? not to mention that the actress who played louis was horrible...and it's 2006...please get over the campy, common criminal lex luther...i mean, in my honest opinion..there was nothing creative or inventive about this movie. it was basically a donner clone..and the parts that were different...well, weren't practical..that's just my opinion. u don't have to be a fanboy...to realize these things....and i din't even mention plot, character development, and luther's inane plot.....(not to mention consistency)....


it wa a very entertaining movie...but not a movie good enough to make 500 million world wide..or good enough to warrant a budget of its proportions.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I don't even think the studios needed to listen to the fanboys..they just needed to exercise common sense. superman was advertised as a summer blockbuster....based on a comic book! it's cool to make an attempt to appeal to the female audience...but u can't totally ignore the male counterpart...superman is a superhero whose powers are all physically enhanced! he is a physical character...so how can u not have him throw one punch? and then u're reintroducing the franchise after 20 years...and u think it's smart to just throw a bastard child in the mix? not to mention that the actress who played louis was horrible...and it's 2006...please get over the campy, common criminal lex luther...i mean, in my honest opinion..there was nothing creative or inventive about this movie. it was basically a donner clone..and the parts that were different...well, weren't practical..that's just my opinion. u don't have to be a fanboy...to realize these things....and i din't even mention plot, character development, and luther's inane plot.....(not to mention consistency)....


it wa a very entertaining movie...but not a movie good enough to make 500 million world wide..or good enough to warrant a budget of its proportions.

Fact is it doesn't matter how "good" it is, it is a boxoffice disappointment, that won't even make 200mil interantionally...most likely.

 

[Thot]

was that statement againts me or him?

Against knee-jerk, reactionary, politically correct "speech police".

 

[C. Lee]

Against knee-jerk, reactionary, politically correct "speech police".

You left out fascist Nazi.....we like to have our full titles announced.

 

[ThanosOfTitans]

Fact is it doesn't matter how "good" it is, it is a boxoffice disappointment, that won't even make 200mil interantionally...most likely.

i personally found it entertaining, but still a disappointment...not even talking about the box office..the movie is just underwhelming. but u're right..even if the movie was as good as the WB wanted us to believe...it's still a disappointment @ the box office. it isn't playing in any of the major cities on the east coast. it was booted out of Washington, DC two weeks ago. i hope that the sequel will be so much better...and it's also interesting that there is speculation that SR won't turn a profit anytime soon.....I know the WB can't wait for Harry Potter...that's their pot of gold @ the end of the rainbow

 

[Dotten]

Talking about Box Office (hey, the other threads closed, got to post it somewhere), SR has now beaten BB overseas numbers and is up to 166 million.

It had a disapointing $1.9 million opening in Germany, but a solid 3,2 million opening in Japan. Its going to make at least 12 million more in Japan, still has Italy and will make some more millions in Germany. It's up to around 30 million in UK.

All in all, SR is doing great in Asia, average in Europe and disapointing in US.

 

[The Kid]

So it beat Begins? Jason strikes again. Ha ha ha. Though it's better if it beats begins in domestic than overseas, is it? Is it too early to post this?

 

[Dotten]

So it beat Begins? Jason strikes again. Ha ha ha. Though it's better if it beats begins in domestic than overseas, is it? Is it too early to post this?

All in all, I think this one is more accurate;

 

[Pickle-El]

SUPERMAN RETURNS WARNER BROS. 383 110,000 287 -37% 194,288,000


Monday's numbers according to showbizdata

 

[Super Kal]

wow... it still hasn't hit 200 million...

 

[TrailerCues]

Mods have said do not post that picture Dotten so if I were you I would remove it

 

[Super Kal]

why? what's wrong with it?



did they use a screenshot from the movie or something?

 

[Showtime]

I am suprised it made that much for Monday?

 

[TrailerCues]

why? what's wrong with it?

Its jsut one of those rules like you cant post manips of Tom Welling in here

 

[HoratioRome]

all I know is Singer made Superman suck. If he returns for SM2 that would be a huge mistake.. WB should scrap Singer and all the crap he brought in( like the son, the LL fiance, etc.) and just do a movie which ignores Singer's version.

 

[Triligors]

Singer made a great Superman film. Bringing him back for SM2 would be the smartest decision ever. WB should keep Singer and everything he brought to the table.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Lol

 

[HoratioRome]

Besides the comment that SM would make more than BB is just speculations. The numbers clearly show that BB kicked SMR's ,..well you know.
BB cost $150 million to make, earned $205M domestic and $371M total
SMR cost $270M earned so far $194m domestic and $360m total.

I think the winner is pretty clear here