We need a better political system

[Emrys]

***** and moan all you want about the frivilous things said in this thread, but bored nailed it: it's not the system, it's a large contingent of the people in it who are crooked, greedy and power hungry that cause the issues WE are currently facing. Don't gloss that over with your whining, please. kthxbye.

jag

Not really, the two party system is to blame for quite a portion too. If you have smaller parties with different value sets which are forced to go into a coalition if they want to be the ruling one it is far more likely that idiotic policies don't get past because of partisan *****ing. You're forced to make concessions and reach a common agreement if you want to stay in power.

 

[kainedamo]

Sure, you can say it's not the system, it's the people that keep getting elected. Over and over again, greedy selfish bastards get elected.

But why do you think that is? It's because there is something wrong with the system. I'm not just talking about the US, it's true in Britain aswell. Politics in N. Ireland are especially a big joke, voting is pretty much a waste of time over here.

 

[Darthphere]

I just read that the House of Representatives has just pissed over small businesses and hundreds and millions of net users, and bowed down to multil-millionaire telecommunications companies to allow them to give web preference to those with big money.

It is becoming ever clearer that politicians do not look out for the interests of the people. They only care about who has the money to back their campaigns. Everything else is irrelevant. It's high time we made politicians realise they are in their positions to serve the people, not the other way around. I want a revolution, for many reasons plus what I stated in the first paragraph. We don't need these greedy bastards, they need us.

There has to be a better system than this.

WE? You dont live here.

 

[Carter]

lol, Kainedamo should start his own internet.

 

[Emrys]

Unless you live in Italy

Nah, sorry, secularism keeps the church from influencing politics even in Italy. The catholic church is only in an advisory role, imagine it like an old grandpa who's always nagging and complaining but the kids ain't listing they just smile and nod and completely ignore him.

 

[Darthphere]

lol, Kainedamo should start his own internet.

I was going to say something, but it would be too easy.

 

[kainedamo]

WE? You dont live here.

I just- ugh! I am totally fed up! I DO NOT HAVE TO LIVE IN THE US TO BE EFFECTED!!!

Plus, I have also said that I don't like politics over here either, so when I say I want a revolution, why does everyone assume I'm talking about America only?

 

[Emrys]

I was going to say something, but it would be too easy.

As funny as it may seem it could very well be the outcome of this all. Every country creates its own internet and the world wide web dies.

 

[Spidey-Bat]

Because SHH is an America-based website.

 

[Darthphere]

I just- ugh! I am totally fed up! I DO NOT HAVE TO LIVE IN THE US TO BE EFFECTED!!!

Plus, I have also said that I don't like politics over here either, so when I say I want a revolution, why does everyone assume I'm talking about America only?

Ummm essentially, yeah you do. Your internet wont be changing.

 

[Immortalfire]

Because SHH is an America-based website.

Conspiracy!

 

[Emrys]

Ummm essentially, yeah you do. Your internet wont be changing.

Ahhh, sorry but that's not true, we are as much affected by this as every one else.

 

[Darthphere]

Ahhh, sorry but that's not true, we are as much affected by this as every one else.

No, youre not. I think you people dont understand what this is at all. This act all it will do is have your ISP decide what websites you need to spend your time on. Since your ISP isnt US based, you wont have a problem.

 

[Darthphere]

Furthermore, it hasnt even become law yet, and a lot of you are jumping the gun.

 

[kainedamo]

Ummm essentially, yeah you do. Your internet wont be changing.

If the US lets companies take control of the Internet, other countries will follow suit.

American companies controlling the Internet, will that effect how the net is viewed internationally or not? Yeah, I think so. A great many sites I visit are American. If the companies start charging for speed and stuff like that, alot of the stuff will disappear really wouldn't it? No more cool flash animations, etc.

If this thing goes through the senate, and big companies get control over the net, it will have a ripple effect that will effect the entire Net.

 

[Darthphere]

If the US lets companies take control of the Internet, other countries will follow suit.

American companies controlling the Internet, will that effect how the net is viewed internationally or not? Yeah, I think so. A great many sites I visit are American. If the companies start charging for speed and stuff like that, alot of the stuff will disappear really wouldn't it? No more cool flash animations, etc.

If this thing goes through the senate, and big companies get control over the net, it will have a ripple effect that will effect the entire Net.

Possibly, though, as I said, it still has to pass the Senate and the Senate for all their faults arent stupid, most of the time.

 

[Emrys]

No, youre not. I think you people dont understand what this is at all. This act all it will do is have your ISP decide what websites you need to spend your time on. Since your ISP isnt US based, you wont have a problem.

So a non US based corporation who uses the Net as a base of selling their products in the United states will not be affected by it if their home grown competitors decide it would be neat to slow down access to their site?

 

[jaguarr]

Not really, the two party system is to blame for quite a portion too. If you have smaller parties with different value sets which are forced to go into a coalition if they want to be the ruling one it is far more likely that idiotic policies don't get past because of partisan *****ing. You're forced to make concessions and reach a common agreement if you want to stay in power.

With certain measures in place to discourage corruption amongst politiicians, a two-party system can work just fine. In the last 50 years, though, these corrupt, greedy a-holes have managed to rewrite much of the legislation so that it's not as risky for them to take kickbacks or be dishonest or in Corporate America's pockets. So, yeah, it's the people, not necessarily the system.

jag