Weapon 11?

[RonStoppablefan]

Sounds like this guy is going to be badass in the movie. I can't wait to see this guy. Any one else excited for him?

 

[narrows101]

Sounds like this guy is going to be badass in the movie. I can't wait to see this guy. Any one else excited for him?

Yeah, we've been talking about this in the Filming Updates page.

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?p=14519916#post14519916

 

[TheVelvetOnion]

I read somewhere that Weapon 11 is actually going to be wolverines brother, John Howlett... Dunno if it was a rumour or news somewhere.

 

[Neto Magnus]

I heard Weapon 11 is lead by George Clooney.

 

[Congo Jack]

Comic-verse wise, the Weapons go like this:

Weapon 0 - Isaiah Bradley
Weapon I - Captain America
Weapons II/III/IV - Unofficially Bandit/Tinker/Pirate from We3
Weapon V/VI - Unknown ethnic minorities
Weapon VII - Nuke
Weapon VIII/IX - Unknown criminals and psychopaths
Weapon X - Wolverine
Weapon XI - Unknown, but you can bet he will appear in the Wolverine and/or X-Men comics around the time of the movie.
Weapon XII - Huntsman
Weapon XIII - Fantomex
Weapon XIV - Stepford Cuckoos
Weapon XV - Ultimaton

Is that right?

 

[Legion]

Comic-verse wise, the Weapons go like this:

Weapon 0 - Isaiah Bradley
Weapon I - Captain America
Weapons II/III/IV - Unofficially Bandit/Tinker/Pirate from We3
Weapon V/VI - Unknown ethnic minorities
Weapon VII - Nuke
Weapon VIII/IX - Unknown criminals and psychopaths
Weapon X - Wolverine
Weapon XI - Unknown, but you can bet he will appear in the Wolverine and/or X-Men comics around the time of the movie.
Weapon XII - Huntsman
Weapon XIII - Fantomex
Weapon XIV - Stepford Cuckoos
Weapon XV - Ultimaton

Is that right?

So Sabretooth, Fox, Maverick, Kestrel, Deadpool and the other characters named Weapon X don't fall in the Weapon category?

 

[Congo Jack]

So Sabretooth, Fox, Maverick, Kestrel, Deadpool and the other characters named Weapon X don't fall in the Weapon category?

Nope. Weapon X is an offshot from Weapon Plus, so those characters were not designated numbers.

I like to think that when it broke away from Weapon Plus, whoever was controlling it started calling it 'ex', because I could never get used to calling Wolverine 'Weapon Ten'.

 

[Neto Magnus]

what about Kane? I coulda sworn he was called Weapon X at one point.

 

[the a1ant]

According to Wikipedia, Weapon XI (11) could be a character called 'Hound' but there has been no real confirmation in the comics about who it is, so it's still a mystery.

Who knows...it could be connected to the comics or be an entirely new creation (which I'm betting).

 

[the dmg]

Nope. Weapon X is an offshot from Weapon Plus, so those characters were not designated numbers.

I like to think that when it broke away from Weapon Plus, whoever was controlling it started calling it 'ex', because I could never get used to calling Wolverine 'Weapon Ten'.

Technically, they were all part of Weapon X, as it was the name for the program being the tenth experiment phase and not the character like it was previously thought.

 

[Congo Jack]

what about Kane? I coulda sworn he was called Weapon X at one point.

See the next quote.

Technically, they were all part of Weapon X, as it was the name for the program being the tenth experiment phase and not the character like it was previously thought.

Good point. Of those original recruits though (not the Kane, Deadpool, Slayback batch), only Logan was designated 'Weapon X'.

 

[the dmg]

See the next quote.


Good point. Of those original recruits though (not the Kane, Deadpool, Slayback batch), only Logan was designated 'Weapon X'.

No, Team X (Maverick, Sabretooth, Silver Fox, Mastadon, Kestrel, and Wolverine) were the original subjects. So all all of them are Weapon X. Wolverine happened to be the first subject to be bonded with adamantium, which was what they wanted to do to all of them, but Wolverine went into an unexpected rage to end the original program.

This makes Wolverine the only Weapon X test subject to fully complete the program, which is why he is referred to as Weapon X. The others, though, have the name as well because they were also experimented on, even if it wasn't to the extent of what happened to Wolverine.

 

[the a1ant]

True.

 

[Lurid Jester]

Comic-verse wise, the Weapons go like this:

Weapon 0 - Isaiah Bradley
Weapon I - Captain America

Is that right?

I thought Isaiah Bradly was part of the government's attempt to recreate the super soldier program that created Captain America? Wouldn't that make him weapon II? Or maybe 1.5?

 

[narrows101]

http://www.moviehole.net/news/20080414_confirmed_adkins_is_weapon_11.html

Confirmed : Adkins is Weapon 11 in Wolverine

Spoke to my buddy Isaac Florentine today, a fellow martial-arts aficionado and the director of such films as “Undisputed 2” and “The Shepherd : Border Patrol”, who tells me Scott Adkins, an actor who appears in near all of Florentine’s films, has jettisoned down under to join the cast of “Wolverine”.

Adkins, who played the Russian jailbird who pummels Michael Jai White in the “Undisputed” sequel, will take on a similar role in this (um, someone who fights). He’ll play Weapon 11, one of the many mutants of the X-world, whose main objective is to rip the claws from Wolverine. He no doubt doesn’t succeed in his mission – Wolvie’s the hero, after all! – but I’m sure we can expect a good scuffle anyway. The bulk of his scenes will appear in the last reel of the film.

“X-Men Origins : Wolverine” is currently filming in Sydney – and the reason a few of you, in transit to the home palace, will be sitting in your car an hour longer tonight.

 

[Congo Jack]

Wolverine happened to be the first subject to be bonded with adamantium, which was what they wanted to do to all of them, but Wolverine went into an unexpected rage to end the original program.

When was this revealed? The only time I've seen this version of events occur was in the 90s cartoon.

 

[Legion]

http://www.moviehole.net/news/20080414_confirmed_adkins_is_weapon_11.html

"He’ll play Weapon 11, one of the many mutants of the X-world, whose main objective is to rip the claws from Wolverine."

Does this sound like they are suggesting the implanted claws story to anyone else?

 

[Congo Jack]

I thought Isaiah Bradly was part of the government's attempt to recreate the super soldier program that created Captain America? Wouldn't that make him weapon II? Or maybe 1.5?

I never read The Truth (didn't much like the premise), so can't say with any certainty what the case is. But a snippet from the Marvel website says:

Washington attache Homer Tully and German scientist Josef Reinstein met with the Major and requisitioned two battalions of black soldiers for an experiment being performed by the Project: Rebirth (later retroactively renamed Weapon I (One), part of the Weapon Plus Program).

Does this sound like they are suggesting the implanted claws story to anyone else?

I think it's just journalist speak to try and make the article more exciting. Why would Weapon X want the adamantium back anyway, through X-Men 2 we know they've got loads.

 

[Legion]

I think it's just journalist speak to try and make the article more exciting. Why would Weapon X want the adamantium back anyway, through X-Men 2 we know they've got loads.

Well he could have said rip the adamantium out instead of claws, but it could just be the journalist trying to make the article sound exciting.

They might not want the actual Adamantium back (although it is expensive) but later attempts to duplicate the procedure (Weapon XI, or Deadpool maybe) may have failed and they want to disect Logan to find out what made his processing successful.

In X2 Stryker felt Wolverine was special, "one of a kind" , until he bonded adamantium to Deathstrike. So I think in this movie something needs to separate Wolverine from the other characters who are supposed to have healing factors.

 

[the a1ant]

Does this sound like they are suggesting the implanted claws story to anyone else?

Though there's no proof this is what will end up in the final product, early script reviews mentioned that [blackout]Logan has bone claws, but Sabertooth crushes them before he goes through with the Weapon X program (which gives him the metal claws).[/blackout]

 

[Nightmare]

Holy crap that'd be awesome.

 

[stardust]

That calls for some cool special effects.

 

[RonStoppablefan]

Yah I agree they need some good special affects for all this stuff.

 

[the dmg]

When was this revealed? The only time I've seen this version of events occur was in the 90s cartoon.

What? The rage? This happened in the comics.

From Marvel's Site (http://www.marvel.com/universe/Weapon_X):

The Professor was surprised at the full extent of Logan’s mutant nature, which enabled him to recover from the process far more rapidly than anticipated. Reduced to a quasi-mindless state, Wolverine was sent to slaughter the inhabitants of the small town of Roanoke as a test of his abilities. Wolverine ultimately broke free of the Professor’s conditioning and ran amok in the Weapon X facility. In the course of his escape, he slew most of the facility’s personnel and savagely butchered a guard named Malcolm Colcord. Miraculously, Colcord survived, but kept his scarred face as a visual reminder of his hatred for Wolverine.

 

[Congo Jack]

What? The rage? This happened in the comics.

Sorry I wasn't clearer. No, this bit:

Wolverine happened to be the first subject to be bonded with adamantium, which was what they wanted to do to all of them, but Wolverine went into an unexpected rage to end the original program.