Welcome To Sin City, Buck Rogers

[C. W. Saturn]

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/film/news/e3i8cb71d29182efee6d6f7618b9ddcc5af

I'm shaking in fear.
But since The Spirit is bombing I guess this will not happen.

 

[Bubastis]

"Space is my mother. I am my mother's lover. She bathes me in..um...vaccum..."

Everything that was optimistic and hopeful and exciting about the Spirit has been turned into self-indulgent, brooding, synical, cheesy crap.
And Buck Rogers is next.

God ****ing damn it.

 

[IDrawDeadPeople]

The one consolation of having a predictable hack like Miller write this is that we will all be given the comfort of knowing that the words "b@$t@rd" and "damn you" will not have fallen out of use in the distant future.

 

[CrimsonMist]

How come it has to be a "darker tale"? Isn't Buck Rodgers supposed to to be FUN action/adventure sci-fi?

 

[Bubastis]

Because fiction isn't allowed to give us hope or give us something to aspire to or let us have kind-spirited fun.
It is to show us a world where the women are ****es, the men are brooding, monologuring murderers, and the blacks are gay lunatics.

Didn't you get the memo?

 

[IDrawDeadPeople]

How come it has to be a "darker tale"? Isn't Buck Rogers supposed to to be FUN action/adventure sci-fi?

Well... what will soon be "according to Frank Miller", which will, in turn be coming from newly, all of the sudden longtime Buck Rogers fan ManBat...

"Buck Rogers has always had a dark side... he's always been an angry man living in a bleak universe, filled with suffering".

Miller is pathetic. One dimensional and pathetic.

 

[rogue trooper]

This might be interesting.

 

[Octoberist]

I dont' want Miller to fail, but I can't help it to image a Buck Rogers with the same style as Sin City/Spirit. God, I just can't help it to think he's becoming a one-trick pony.

 

[IDrawDeadPeople]

In all seriousness, I know I go back and forth with Manbat and RT on here about the Spirit, but I'm not anything remotely near a Buck Rogers fan. Hopefully, fans of the character get better treatment from Miller than the Spirit recieved, but I just don't know anything about Buck. Although, when I was little, I liked the robot... I think his name was Tweekie or something like that. He's probably too 'cute' for Miller's universe, but that's about all I remember from the character.

Hope it goes well. My gripe wasn't about Miller, at first... just people trying to convince me that Miller got the character of Denny Colt right... when he did not.

Buck Rogers is out of my league.

 

[theMan-Bat]

Well... what will soon be "according to Frank Miller", which will, in turn be coming from newly, all of the sudden longtime Buck Rogers fan ManBat...

"Buck Rogers has always had a dark side... he's always been an angry man living in a bleak universe, filled with suffering".

Miller is pathetic. One dimensional and pathetic.

It's another insulting baiting post by IDrawDeadPeople.

No, I am not pretending to be a "newly, all of the sudden 'longtime' Buck Rogers fan." I've never been a fan of Buck Rogers beyond watching the '80s Buck Rogers TV show which I enjoyed when I was a kid. Nor am I faking being a longtime Spirit fan or Batman fan or anything else.

 

[IDrawDeadPeople]

It's another insulting baiting post by IDrawDeadPeople.

No, I am not pretending to be a "newly, all of the sudden 'longtime' Buck Rogers fan." I've never been a fan of Buck Rogers beyond watching the '80s Buck Rogers TV show which I enjoyed when I was a kid. Nor am I faking being a longtime Spirit fan or Batman fan or anything else.

You're baiting me to bait you by baiting me with with my baits...?

Read the post above your's, silly. I just admitted I had no clue what I was talking about.

You watched the 80's show, too? What was that robot's name? The little one, who went "B'deep, B'deep, Buck!"...

 

[theMan-Bat]

You're baiting me to bait you by baiting me with with my baits...?

Read the post above your's, silly. I just admitted I had no clue what I was talking about.

You watched the 80's show, too? What was that robot's name? The little one, who went "B'deep, B'deep, Buck!"...

"Twinky" I believe.

 

[IDrawDeadPeople]

Twinky.

Dagnabbit! That was it. I think I had an action figure of him when I was little. Twinky.


See? Between that and our shared love of Caligari, we'd get along smashingly in real life.

If we could just get over insulting each other's intelligence about who knows Eisner's character better.

Which, I will admit, you are better at. I'm just abrasive. You are teh intelligent.

I'll be off here all weekend, so I'll miss all the reviews, but keep fighting the good fight.

Have a good weekend, Manbat.

 

[Lighthouse]

As long as Miller keeps directing projects I don't care about, like this one, then I'll be happy he stays off the ones I do.

 

[CrimsonMist]

You're baiting me to bait you by baiting me with with my baits...?

Face it, both of you are master baiters!

t:t:t:

 

[CrimsonMist]

"Buck Rogers has always had a dark side... he's always been an angry man living in a bleak universe, filled with suffering".

Miller is pathetic. One dimensional and pathetic.

That's just it, though. That's probably how the film will be. One dimensional and pathetic. Miller will find one story that is more intense than any other story and use that as a spring board and that story will be used as justification to everything we see in the film by crazed fans. And no matter how far removed and iconic the character has become from that original incarnation, the film will always be right.

And people who don't like the way the film looks will simply be told that their opinions are just full of biased anti-miller hatred.

 

[EXCELSIOR]

GUYS - Cool it with the hostilities... enough already!

 

[rogue trooper]

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/film/news/e3i8cb71d29182efee6d6f7618b9ddcc5af

I'm shaking in fear.
But since The Spirit is bombing I guess this will not happen.

How can it be bombing when it's not even out yet, exactly?

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

The reason I'm getting on the Spirit as much as I am and rooting on it's failure is because I think that it looks terrible as non fan and I think that Miller is a hateful human being who makes harmful stories that are mostly directed towards closeted hateful white males and white males who don't realize the harm in these stories and think that they are just kewl little stories.

Edit: Yuck to him directing anything else. I seriously hope that this movie pulls something of a Punisher War Zone or a GrindHouse and kill this project before it gets started.

 

[rogue trooper]

You have to be not a terribly bright person or too ultra sensitive to find Miller's work harmful, imo.

 

[mego joe]

The robots name was Twiki.

As for Miller helming Buck Rogers, that just means he's saved me another $6 in movie tickets, so in some ways I should be thankful.

I would have been interested in a Buck Rogers film. Not now.

 

[mego joe]

How can it be bombing when it's not even out yet, exactly?

From the reviews that are out it's apparently that bad.

 

[mego joe]

You have to be not a terribly bright person to find Miller's work harmful.

I understand what ISS is getting at. The attitudes of his characters towards women especially are concerning as is his use of gratuitous violence. I understand exactly what she means.

I think you might have mistyped your comment there Trooper.

 

[Octoberist]

I just think that Miller created his niche, which is pulp goodness. When he strays from that, he's also suprisingly good, like with Batman Year One.

But every genius or artist has their downfall of sorts. I think Miller, at this point in his career, is getting too comfortable with his own style. I've heard that 9/11 also changed the way he thinks about the world, and this sounds like a silly cop out, but that might have affected his writing too.

With me, Buck Rogers is PULP, but not in the Frank Miller way. Pulp in a Tarzan/John Carter of Mars style, matched with a leather football helmet and jetback. That's Buck Rogers right there; vintage style goodness. If Miller doesn't get it, then...he's not the right man for the job.

 

[rogue trooper]

I just think that Miller created his niche, which is pulp goodness. When he strays from that, he's also suprisingly good, like with Batman Year One.

But every genius or artist has their downfall of sorts. I think Miller, at this point in his career, is getting too comfortable with his own style. I've heard that 9/11 also changed the way he thinks about the world, and this sounds like a silly cop out, but that might have affected his writing too.

With me, Buck Rogers is PULP, but not in the Frank Miller way. Pulp in a Tarzan/John Carter of Mars style, matched with a leather football helmet and jetback. That's Buck Rogers right there; vintage style goodness. If Miller doesn't get it, then...he's not the right man for the job.

What's the last successful comic run or film of Buck Rogers? That's what I thought.

I think Miller might be the right man to bring the spaceman a much needed edge.