Civil War What are the rosters going to be?

[MbJ]

Scarlet Witch could probably take out Vision, or even a well timed EMP. He is a machine after all.

 

[kaijunexus]

Cap's team would get trounced, especially with what we are hearing about the Vision.

With Scarlet Witch acting somewhat as a wildcard, I imagine she will eventually agree with Cap's argument and join his team.

Once this happens, things even out a little bit. The deciding factor, though, may be if Vision's affinity for Scarlet Witch starts playing a part. He may not wish to fight against her and ultimately switch sides over to Cap's team to be with her.

At that point, team Iron Man is screwed.

 

[CaptainWagner]

Cap's team would get trounced, especially with what we are hearing about the Vision.

Well, Spider-man is still in the mix, and he should add some extra muscle to Cap's side. Wanda could also wind up on his side by the end.

 

[chamber-music]

Exactly on Ant-Man and Pym's approach to all this. Any rumors of Michael Douglas being in Civil War? Maybe Hank Pym and Hope Van Wasp side with Stark and Paul Rudd sides with Cap.

Unfortunately

Spoiler

Hank Pym is probably going to get killed by Yellowjacket I think. Those leaked set pictures of a injured Hank Pym being carried by Hope looked ominous

 

[MbJ]

Kevin Feige suggested Pym might have some part to play in Civil War.

Also, Hank Pym’s attitude towards Avengers, towards S.H.I.E.L.D, and kind of the cinematic universe in general, is much more informed after the events of Age of Ultron, and in a certain way, before the events of Civil War.

 

[MakeMinesMarvel]

I want to see this

 

[Yellow Cyclone]

i wonder if pym plays the reed richards role in civil war

tony is tony, he would be reinforced with a smart fellow scientist backing him up (pym). and the rumors in ant-man is that he quit shield back in the day over some reason. so he finally decides to do something after seeing the wake of shield/ultron fail. Lang takes over pym's comic role since he owes pym and stark can finance him?

 

[TalismanRing]

Kevin Feige suggested Pym might have some part to play in Civil War.

Pym is the one that makes sense than Scott in Civil War since he's the one who reportedly has a superhero axe to grind and there need to be other high profile people on Tony's side.

 

[chamber-music]

Pym also used to work with Howard Stark (as seen in the tie in comic and Douglas name dropping his character in Ant-Man) which could give Tony a reason to recruit him to his side as well.

 

[Mike5575]

Scarlet Witch could probably take out Vision, or even a well timed EMP. He is a machine after all.

I don't know about that. It sounds as if Vision could give Thor a good fight. Vision is obviously more than just a machine and EMP resistant technology exists today.

 

[Spitfire]

Cap's team would get trounced, especially with what we are hearing about the Vision.

Agreed. If SW decides to stay neutral (possible after all the destruction she witnesses in AoU) then Caps team is going to die very quickly. I also think that line up sounds predictable, so think this could change.

 

[mkilban2]

soo

Cap side:
- Cap
- Widow
- SW
- Vision
- War Machine
- Falcon

Tony's side
-Tony
- ?

I seriously can't think of who would be on Tony's side, assuming his side is anti-heroes. I guess Pym would be there, and then the other wildcards are Lang/Janet, Panther, Spidey, and Hawkeye. Thor and Hulk won't be involved.

I'm thinking more and more that this won't be Cap's Team vs Tony's Team like the comic, and more like Tony's ideals vs Cap's and those two going at it without much physicality. Idk I guess I'll wait til we get more info.

 

[The.Brotherhood]

Man!!!! Grinding my teeth thinking of all the possibilities about this film....just about when the pro-reg team gets a man-hunt to cap's team and who will be on who's side...dayuuumm.....can't wait for the combo moves!!!!

I am anticipating the time when cap's team goes underground and takes ironman's team one by one...dayyyuuuummm!!! HYPED!

 

[MbJ]

Might want to spoiler tag that post mkilban2.

 

[JohnSuperguy]

soo

Cap side:
- Cap
- Widow
- SW
- Vision
- War Machine
- Falcon

Tony's side
-Tony
- ?

I seriously can't think of who would be on Tony's side, assuming his side is anti-heroes. I guess Pym would be there, and then the other wildcards are Lang/Janet, Panther, Spidey, and Hawkeye. Thor and Hulk won't be involved.

I'm thinking more and more that this won't be Cap's Team vs Tony's Team like the comic, and more like Tony's ideals vs Cap's and those two going at it without much physicality. Idk I guess I'll wait til we get more info.

Really we're going to have to wait on who's on Tony's Side.

 

[BatsDC]

Captain America, Falcon, Hawkeye, Black Widow, Scarlet Witch

Iron Man, War Machine, Vision, Ant-Man

Winter Soldier and Black Panther somewhere in the middle

 

[BullMcGiveny]

soo

Cap side:
- Cap
- Widow
- SW
- Vision
- War Machine
- Falcon

Tony's side
-Tony
- ?

I seriously can't think of who would be on Tony's side, assuming his side is anti-heroes. I guess Pym would be there, and then the other wildcards are Lang/Janet, Panther, Spidey, and Hawkeye. Thor and Hulk won't be involved.

I'm thinking more and more that this won't be Cap's Team vs Tony's Team like the comic, and more like Tony's ideals vs Cap's and those two going at it without much physicality. Idk I guess I'll wait til we get more info.

Rhodey most likely will, if nothing else because of his position in the military.

I have a feeling Hawkeye will, too.

 

[Loki882]

I kind of want Panther (and maybe even Spider-Man) to go "screw both of you" and just do their own thing without really picking a side.

 

[Loki882]

Rhodey most likely will, if nothing else because of his position in the military.

I have a feeling Hawkeye will, too.

Rhodey is also Tony's best friend, don't forget about that. That might factor into his decision as well.

 

[Protar]

My thoughts. Some spoilers for Age of Ultron and some rumours:

Iron Man's Team:
> War Machine
> Scarlet Witch
> Vision
> Hank Pym
> Maria Hill
> Carol Danvers (Unpowered)
> Dr. Cho

Captain America's Team:
> Falcon
> The Winter Soldier
> Black Widow
> Ant Man
> Doctor Strange
> Hawkeye
> Sharon Carter

Black Panther will be undecided in the middle. Spiderman will be on neither side as well, and only appear as a small cameo.

Reasonings for the teams and how they'll all fit into the narrative:

War Machine is never going to leave Tony's side. Likewise Falcon will never leave Cap. These will be the primary sidekicks for each team.

Scarlet Witch has been rumoured to be siding with Iron Man, as has the Vision. Remember Sokovia had a strong anti-avengers sentiment, not liking them flying around doing whatever they please. So SW will get over her dislike of Stark and side with him. Vision is an android who does still like order. His relationship with SW will likely be explored.

The Ant-Men will pick opposite sides during this film. There are simultaneous rumours that Ant-Man will break Black Widow (on Cap's team) out of jail and rumours that he will side with Stark and become Giant Man. With both Pym and Lang both can be true. Lang can side with Cap and Pym will be an old science buddy of Starks. Pym may fill in Reed Richard's role from the comic, at least broadly.

Hill requires little explanation. Though honestly they could easily justify her going either way. Dr. Cho obviously won't be a superhero, nor in a major role. But she's another of Stark's science buddies and I liked her in AoU so I hope she returns. ETA: Also I feel that they wouldn't have had her survive AoU if they weren't going to use her for more films.

Carol Danvers has been rumoured to appear as a yet to be powered pilot. Probably not in a major role, but a few decent scenes on Stark's side to set up her own movie.

The Winter Soldier will be vital to the story. The big rumour is that he will be revealed to have been responsible for the death of Tony's parents. Sparking a lot of the conflict. Steve will try to reconnect with his old friend.

Black Widow goes without saying - she's Cap's buddy, she'll stick with him to the end. As I said above, the rumour is she'll be arrested only to be broken out of prison by Scott Lang.

I would have liked to see Hawkeye side with Stark to provide some juicy drama when he and Black Widow choose different sides. But the rumours indicate otherwise and it makes sense. My personal speculation is that he won't have a huge role, having retired to spend time with his family. But Cap's team will call in a few favours, possibly hiding out at the Barton Farmstead when they're forced to go underground.

Sharon Carter obviously needs to side with Cap to provide some romance. Hopefully doesn't become a romantic plot tumour and Sharon can make a bigger impression than she did (for me at least) in Winter Soldier.

And finally this is just my wild speculation but I think Doctor Strange may appear. We know a Dr. Strange villain - Baron Mordo - will appear. But what about the man himself? If you look at the two lineups above, Stark's team is vastly more powerful than Caps. Most of his team is just normal people with a few gadgets. So he calls in Dr. Strange to balance things out.

 

[BarryAllen]

Vision is an android who does still like order]Vision is an android who does still like order

I thought Vision was all about free will, which falls more in line with Cap.

 

[Protar]

I thought Vision was all about free will, which falls more in line with Cap.

Well the rumours I've heard are that he's with Stark. It could be that he likes order and will support SHRA, but obviously compared to Ultron he comes down on the side of free will. Or it could be that his motivation is personal - his relationship with Scarlet Witch. Perhaps he doesn't even take side in the fighting and we just see him on Stark's side with SW.

 

[BatsDC]

The roster I posted makes sense. Vision wants peace and order, and like Ultron could see the flaws in humanity - if people capable of causing harm are controlled, it would make for a safer world.

Wanda dislikes Stark and what he stands for - and would oppose the oppressive scheme he's sided with. She wants to fight for good, and to be controlled by a man so closely associated with the personal tragedies of her past wouldn't sit well with her.

The other characters are pretty self explanatory.

Hawkeye and Widow side with Cap because of what happened with SHIELD - Falcon also, but additionally because he's Cap's friend, and will stand by him through anything.

War Machine works for the Government, and as a part of the military would see the benefits in a scheme overlooking superheroes. Ant-Man is a man who wants to leave his life of crime behind him and operate within the law - becoming an outlaw after redeeming himself in the eys of his daughter wouldn't sit well with him.

Panther will sit somewhere in the middle because he is an outsider. Im starting to think the big crisis that sets off Civil War will involve Wakanda and Vibranium in some capacity, causing T'Chaka to send T'Challa out to deal with the outside world. The Panther has his own goals - he wants peace, but would see the arguments of both sides.

Bucky just escaped being controlled - he obviously wouldn't welcome being ordered around again with open arms. Couple that with his vague memories of Steve as his friend and its more than likely Bucky will end up siding with Cap - even if it is just an alliance of convenience.

Crossbones would likely be assigned to the pro-registration unit. Cap and Falcon messed up his plans in TWS, and Falcon left him scarred - he'd happily join the unit setting out to stop them.

I expect Zemo orchestrates the whole thing - sending Crossbones out to cause the catalyst event for the SHRA to be introduced by recommendation of Zemo. Zemo then has his own private army of superheroes to do his bidding - such as eliminating Captain America once and for all. And best of all? He has a figurehead to take all the blame - Stark.

 

[Dr. Evil]

My thoughts. Some spoilers for Age of Ultron and some rumours:

Iron Man's Team:
> War Machine
> Scarlet Witch
> Vision
> Hank Pym
> Maria Hill
> Carol Danvers (Unpowered)
> Dr. Cho

Captain America's Team:
> Falcon
> The Winter Soldier
> Black Widow
> Ant Man
> Doctor Strange
> Hawkeye
> Sharon Carter

Black Panther will be undecided in the middle. Spiderman will be on neither side as well, and only appear as a small cameo.

Reasonings for the teams and how they'll all fit into the narrative:

War Machine is never going to leave Tony's side. Likewise Falcon will never leave Cap. These will be the primary sidekicks for each team.

Scarlet Witch has been rumoured to be siding with Iron Man, as has the Vision. Remember Sokovia had a strong anti-avengers sentiment, not liking them flying around doing whatever they please. So SW will get over her dislike of Stark and side with him. Vision is an android who does still like order. His relationship with SW will likely be explored.

The Ant-Men will pick opposite sides during this film. There are simultaneous rumours that Ant-Man will break Black Widow (on Cap's team) out of jail and rumours that he will side with Stark and become Giant Man. With both Pym and Lang both can be true. Lang can side with Cap and Pym will be an old science buddy of Starks. Pym may fill in Reed Richard's role from the comic, at least broadly.

Hill requires little explanation. Though honestly they could easily justify her going either way. Dr. Cho obviously won't be a superhero, nor in a major role. But she's another of Stark's science buddies and I liked her in AoU so I hope she returns. ETA: Also I feel that they wouldn't have had her survive AoU if they weren't going to use her for more films.

Carol Danvers has been rumoured to appear as a yet to be powered pilot. Probably not in a major role, but a few decent scenes on Stark's side to set up her own movie.

The Winter Soldier will be vital to the story. The big rumour is that he will be revealed to have been responsible for the death of Tony's parents. Sparking a lot of the conflict. Steve will try to reconnect with his old friend.

Black Widow goes without saying - she's Cap's buddy, she'll stick with him to the end. As I said above, the rumour is she'll be arrested only to be broken out of prison by Scott Lang.

I would have liked to see Hawkeye side with Stark to provide some juicy drama when he and Black Widow choose different sides. But the rumours indicate otherwise and it makes sense. My personal speculation is that he won't have a huge role, having retired to spend time with his family. But Cap's team will call in a few favours, possibly hiding out at the Barton Farmstead when they're forced to go underground.

Sharon Carter obviously needs to side with Cap to provide some romance. Hopefully doesn't become a romantic plot tumour and Sharon can make a bigger impression than she did (for me at least) in Winter Soldier.

And finally this is just my wild speculation but I think Doctor Strange may appear. We know a Dr. Strange villain - Baron Mordo - will appear. But what about the man himself? If you look at the two lineups above, Stark's team is vastly more powerful than Caps. Most of his team is just normal people with a few gadgets. So he calls in Dr. Strange to balance things out.

Nope.

 

[MbJ]

And finally this is just my wild speculation but I think Doctor Strange may appear. We know a Dr. Strange villain - Baron Mordo - will appear.

We don't know that actually. That seems to have been a mistake based off a news outlet confusing Baron Mordo with Baron Zemo. Daniel Bruhl basically confirmed he's Zemo yesterday.