The Amazing Spider-Man 2 What Did You Not Like?(Spoilers!!!)

[First Avenger]

I actually wished it went for longer.

I don't know,to me the first act dragged quite a bit.

 

[Drz]

I absolutely hated Doctor Kafka. He didn't belong to this movie at all.

 

[Morbius]

I absolutely hated Doctor Kafka. He didn't belong to this movie at all.

I didn't hate him per se; he stood out for the wrong reasons though and I would have preferred he had less screen time. He was simply there to fulfill the role of evil scientist/ captor/ tormentor and nothing more.

 

[UltimateWebhead]

That is one of my complaints, Spidey's power levels vary greatly in this movie, in the same scene it takes him 2 punches to punch through a windshield, he also stops a skidding bus from hitting a family by stopping it with his strength.

Later on he catches a flying car and virtually tosses it away after. I think they need to make their mind up on his power levels in this series as so far they cant.

Besides the punching glass moment, were there any others that seemed like Spider-Man's powers were not up to par with the rest of the film?

 

[Sergiolb]

was spider man really trying to punch the windshield? i dont recall that. i wanted more uncle ben also

 

[bapi]

What I did not like? Whole script, to be honest. Sony just have to pay a top writer and trust him!

Peter Morgan (The Queen, Frost/Nixon, Rush)
John Logan (Gladiator, Rango, Skyfall)
Steven Zaillian (Gangs of New York, American Gangster, Moneyball)
Scott Silver (8 Mile, The Fighter)
Sheldon Turner (The Longest Yard, Up in the Air, cancelled Magneto spin-off)

 

[TheSpectacular]

I got the impresion that he didn't brake the windshield so

A. It didn't shatter all over Aleskie and possibly injure him seriously
B. He could take away his view of the road, forcing him to stop

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

If he can land on his feet and fling a car off his shoulders, he should be able to punch through bullet proof glass. Should come with the whole strength of a spider thing.

My point from the start.

The point we're making is Spider-Man has the strength to put his fist through someone if he wanted to, just like he could and should be able to put his fist through bulletproof glass because again he has the super strength to. If he can lift a car and stop a bus, he can easily muster the force in a punch to shatter bulletproof glass.

You keep comparing normal people's abilities with a fist or a knife or the force of a bullet to Spider-Man's strength which is far greater than any of those. If the force is great enough, it will penetrate it. And Spider-Man has enough force to hold a car up, and stop a bus. And you're here trying to tell us he can't put enough force in a punch to break a bulletproof windshield?

Yeah ok.

And again, exactly, that windshield should NOT have been even the slightest problem for Spiderman to punch through.

I think it has been a fault with this series in general that they cant seem to decide how strong their Spidey is. Raimi's movies were pretty consistent in his power levels and they were established pretty quickly. But here they fluctuate far too much.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Besides the punching glass moment, were there any others that seemed like Spider-Man's powers were not up to par with the rest of the film?

See my post above, but again him catching the flying police car then flinging it away didnt seem to mesh with him struggling to stop the car falling from the bridge with the kid inside in the 1st movie. I just dont think they have established his power level very well in this series as a whole.

 

[UltimateWebhead]

See my post above, but again him catching the flying police car then flinging it away didnt seem to mesh with him struggling to stop the car falling from the bridge with the kid inside in the 1st movie. I just dont think they have established his power level very well in this series as a whole.

Thanks again for replying to another of my questions.

The difference with ASM, is that he wasn't supposed to be at full-power/strength. Webb wanted to make his skill building and power set become more mature over the course of the first film and into the second. So, struggling to save the kid was a part of that theology.

I haven't seen ASM2 yet, but the part with him not successfully punching thru the windshield is out of place. I'll wait til I see the film first and gain of sense of what is going on but on paper it is definitely not something that should hinder Spidey. I'm a bit upset about that but it also sounds like that's the only moment in ASM2 where his powers are sub par.

 

[Nemeres]

Do any of you guys think that Peter's refusal to give Harry his blood will be as hotly debated as his "broken promises" line? It seemed a bit weird that he refused to give him some, even if it was only for further experimentation. Harry could have gathered the best experts, they could have made some discovery eventually... and giving him his blood was literally ALL Peter could do for his friend. Flat-out refusing was akin to saying, "Have fun dying. Bye." I don't know, I think need to see it again to get a better hold on that story element. But it definitely puzzled me the first time.

 

[Nemeres]

Some of these may count as nitpicks, but I might as well bring them up:

- I guess I needed to see more consistency out of Peter in his relationship with Gwen. One moment he’s perfectly happy to kiss her on a stage in front of a crowd… literally a couple of hours later he’s crying and telling her they need to break up… then he’s on “let’s be friends” mode, but being super flirty and obviously intent on getting her back… It seemed a bit off. Not a big deal, but it’s just the kind of stuff that puts a question mark over your head.

- The way Gwen and Harry meet on the elevator is pretty awkward. You could just feel the plot wheels grinding. These people have nothing to say to each other, why are they together in a scene? Foreshadowing is why. But it’s pretty clunky.

- Seriously, that's how Harry breaks into Ravencroft? Gtfo.

- Some movie characters have arcs that grab you and won’t let go, that take you with them every step of the way. Electro is the complete opposite of that. I got completely disconnected from him (no pun intended) very early on. Whenever he was on screen, it was just images moving; there was no connection with him as a character whatsoever. And when he
"dies", all he earns is a small shrug. Both the audience and Foxx deserved better. Lame x 100. People were NOT kidding when they called him a poor villain.

- The planes. They were obviously there for tension, but I didn’t feel any. Superfluous.

- The final fight versus Electro. It’s colorful and glowy and nice to look at… but I was under the impression that climatic fights needed to be exhilarating too. I can barely remember it now. There was no sense of danger, of payoff… it was just effects. And Spidey is completely immune to electrocution, it seems.

- I’ve been fanboying over Rhino like an idiot since he was announced. I liked and defended everything about him, from the casting to the mecha look. “Cheat” doesn’t even begin to cover it.

 

[Joe_Kickass]

This movie just sounds like wasted potential and poor thematic choices. It's disappointing to hear that they seemed to have gotten so much right, and yet the things they got wrong were such obvious hic-ups and blunders that would come with the territory of what they were going for that they should have been able to overcome them if they were more competent and organized.

 

[Sergiolb]

Peter doesnt give him his blood cuz the blood could make him die faster or worse, meaning he could be another lizard experiment and wreac havoc in the city and all that stuff. peter and gwen being on and off shows the conflic within peter, he loves her and wants to be with her and at the same time he promised to her dad that he would stay away and being with her makes him seeing captain stacy everywhere and freakout.. when gwen shows at the plant you see him freaking out cuz he could lose her.
harry breaking into ravencroft sounds lazy writing, i would prefer that the people there didnt know that he was fired yet and let him in and chase him when they heard the news.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Thanks again for replying to another of my questions.

No problem.

The difference with ASM, is that he wasn't supposed to be at full-power/strength. Webb wanted to make his skill building and power set become more mature over the course of the first film and into the second. So, struggling to save the kid was a part of that theology.

That seems fair, many other heroes have tended to get more powerful in their sequels.

I haven't seen ASM2 yet, but the part with him not successfully punching thru the windshield is out of place. I'll wait til I see the film first and gain of sense of what is going on but on paper it is definitely not something that should hinder Spidey. I'm a bit upset about that but it also sounds like that's the only moment in ASM2 where his powers are sub par.

Its a bad inconsistency, it just shouldnt have been there full stop, especially when he is doing things well beyond that in the rest of the movie.

 

[GuestStar2004]

that was always a issue i had with raimis first spider-man movie that peter went from nothing to expert quick because the story needed him too, but no one is good at something right away its with Practice that anything can become easy as riding a bike

 

[Galactus123]

Spoiler

Gwen's death scene was great but it should have happened at the Brooklyn Bridge. Then it would have been perfect.

 

[Nicko-Ray]

After seeing it last night, these are quick cons I had about it :

• The juggle of a lot going on
• Editing
• Green Goblin's screen time

And I think all these correlate with each other.

 

[Justin]

I thought it was a great film but here's some things I didn't like.

- Electro's ending. I would have had some sort of redemption or at least have him speak. But if he isn't really gone for good then I can understand this.

- Some of Spidey things were over top, like fully dressing as a fireman. I do love the fun of the character though, i.e the megaphone scene.

- I think Goblin should have made much easier work of a beaten up and battered Spiderman. Peter almost choked him to death and clearly beat him apart from the obvious loss. This should have been his introduction for the third film, nothing more.

- Didn't like the creepy doctor

 

[The Slang]

See my post above, but again him catching the flying police car then flinging it away didnt seem to mesh with him struggling to stop the car falling from the bridge with the kid inside in the 1st movie. I just dont think they have established his power level very well in this series as a whole.

I'm the one who brought up the whole windshield thing, but I see no problem at all with what you're describing here. In ASM2 he's standing on the ground and holding a car above his head with two arms. In ASM1, he's holding a car with one hand while supporting himself in midair from a web with the other hand. Obviously the ASM scenario is more demanding, so there's nothing wrong with him struggling more during this scene.

You know another thing I didn't like? The stupid kid at the end who runs into the middle of a gun fight in a Spider-man costume. Wasn't this kid meant to be smart? He made a wind turbine and he wore glasses, so I kind of just assumed he was smart. But only a child with below average intelligence at that age would run out into the middle of a gun fight and attempt to 'stand up' to a walking tank just because he has a spider-man mask.
And what does Spider-man say to him? "You're one brave kid"
It wasn't brave, it was stupid. Rather than compliment him, Spider-man should've scolded him for his terrible decision, and his mum should've whooped his ass right there in public.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Spoiler

Gwen's death scene was great but it should have happened at the Brooklyn Bridge. Then it would have been perfect.

Spoiler

If that did happen it would only make people complain more using "this looks familiar", and it would be pretty unnecessary
I like the way it was done, a nice change

 

[Sergiolb]

I'm the one who brought up the whole windshield thing, but I see no problem at all with what you're describing here. In ASM2 he's standing on the ground and holding a car above his head with two arms. In ASM1, he's holding a car with one hand while supporting himself in midair from a web with the other hand. Obviously the ASM scenario is more demanding, so there's nothing wrong with him struggling more during this scene.

You know another thing I didn't like? The stupid kid at the end who runs into the middle of a gun fight in a Spider-man costume. Wasn't this kid meant to be smart? He made a wind turbine and he wore glasses, so I kind of just assumed he was smart. But only a child with below average intelligence at that age would run out into the middle of a gun fight and attempt to 'stand up' to a walking tank just because he has a spider-man mask.
And what does Spider-man say to him? "You're one brave kid"
It wasn't brave, it was stupid. Rather than compliment him, Spider-man should've scolded him for his terrible decision, and his mum should've whooped his ass right there in public.

sometimes bravery and stupidity go hand to hand, some people call stupid to a guy who tries to fight everyone and some people call bad ass to the same scenario changing or not the guy

 

[Nicko-Ray]

I think this is just nitpicking, for me, but I agree with a couple of posts above-

• Harry breaking into Ravencroft. (That stuff happens all the time in movies though)
• I sadly wasn't paying too much attention during the final battle with Electro, but the two planes did seem a bit poorly written in.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

^I understand why the two planes were put in there, but I just think the screen-time used for them should have been used for other more important stuff, like more Goblin time and more of his fight with Spiderman.

 

[AnneFan]

I was fine with the planes moment. It gave the blackout serious ramifications other than New Yorkers not being able to read a book without a lamp, etc. I didn't mind the crane scene that much in TASM, but I'd take this any day of the week over it. Plus, I think there's some loose connection to be made with the opening Richard/Mary plane crash. An opposite result bookending the film.