Above all, its startlingly topical and relatable themes that hit America like a wildstorm. I don't think it is an accident that TDK made so much more domestically than overseas (while Rises' broader struggles of clearer good and evil appealed to the international moviegoers). The film came out in 2008, seven years removed from the most harrowing, paradigm changing event in America, the September 11 terrorist attacks on NY. This single event can be traced back to for every major social, and diplomatic changes, & moral and existential musings in America since.
2001 A Space Odyssey, captured the optimism and curiosity of Americans in the 60's; Star Wars captured the 70's need for feel good escapism after Vietnam. Yet where was the populist film that would espouse this violent, confused zeitgeist? Spielberg's War of the Worlds came close, but its flowery ending and alien invasion premise undercut whatever post 9/11 anxiety it was attempting to challenge. Replace Aliens with the ironic glasgow smile of a violent terrorist, caked in all white make up, whose very gaze is like a razor cutting your skin deep, and you begin to feel the gradual unseating of all that you hold dear.
The Joker is nothing like the religious terrorists that conspired 9/11. His concerns are far more abstract, understandable only in the vocabulary of comic book diabolics. But where he mirrors those real life villains is his absolute conviction to not commit atrocities in the name of material gain. The Joker doesn't care about money. It is but a means to an end. He wants something more sacred. He wants your very soul. He wants you to smile like he does, an eternal smile, as he makes you realize that the morality you hold dear is nothing but a nimble stack of cards. All it takes is a little push and it will all come crashing down. And that should make you very afraid indeed.
The film is able to brilliantly mirror this fear with the fear that the entire nation of America felt as the towers went down. The film instills the same sense of anxiety the Bin Laden's post attack videos that saturated American media did when the Joker fashioned his own little videos. The film instilled the same sense of pervading paranoia you felt when you went outside, and looked at the man that went to the mosque every day and for the first time, wonder if he was more than he let on. The forces of good went to the brink and beyond their moral fiber to battle this demon. Some crossed over to the other side, never to return. Batman's elaborate construction to catch the Joker was not dissimilar to Bush's Patriot Act, where people were tasked to surrender their freedom for security.
It was only a few months into the film's theatrical run that the 2008 stock market crash happened. One wonders how much that boosted the film's lifespan as people were even more willing to wallow in darkness and cynicism and TDK provided a big medium, indeed the biggest medium to do so. The Dark Knight was the best film about America's place post 9/11, and it was a comic book, summer blockbuster movie.
This. Plus Heath Ledger gave one hell of a performance.Above all, its startlingly topical and relatable themes that hit America like a wildstorm. I don't think it is an accident that TDK made so much more domestically than overseas (while Rises' broader struggles of clearer good and evil appealed to the international moviegoers). The film came out in 2008, seven years removed from the most harrowing, paradigm changing event in America, the September 11 terrorist attacks on NY. This single event can be traced back to for every major social, and diplomatic changes, & moral and existential musings in America since.
2001 A Space Odyssey, captured the optimism and curiosity of Americans in the 60's; Star Wars captured the 70's need for feel good escapism after Vietnam. Yet where was the populist film that would espouse this violent, confused zeitgeist? Spielberg's War of the Worlds came close, but its flowery ending and alien invasion premise undercut whatever post 9/11 anxiety it was attempting to challenge. Replace Aliens with the ironic glasgow smile of a violent terrorist, caked in all white make up, whose very gaze is like a razor cutting your skin deep, and you begin to feel the gradual unseating of all that you hold dear.
The Joker is nothing like the religious terrorists that conspired 9/11. His concerns are far more abstract, understandable only in the vocabulary of comic book diabolics. But where he mirrors those real life villains is his absolute conviction to not commit atrocities in the name of material gain. The Joker doesn't care about money. It is but a means to an end. He wants something more sacred. He wants your very soul. He wants you to smile like he does, an eternal smile, as he makes you realize that the morality you hold dear is nothing but a nimble stack of cards. All it takes is a little push and it will all come crashing down. And that should make you very afraid indeed.
The film is able to brilliantly mirror this fear with the fear that the entire nation of America felt as the towers went down. The film instills the same sense of anxiety the Bin Laden's post attack videos that saturated American media did when the Joker fashioned his own little videos. The film instilled the same sense of pervading paranoia you felt when you went outside, and looked at the man that went to the mosque every day and for the first time, wonder if he was more than he let on. The forces of good went to the brink and beyond their moral fiber to battle this demon. Some crossed over to the other side, never to return. Batman's elaborate construction to catch the Joker was not dissimilar to Bush's Patriot Act, where people were tasked to surrender their freedom for security.
It was only a few months into the film's theatrical run that the 2008 stock market crash happened. One wonders how much that boosted the film's lifespan as people were even more willing to wallow in darkness and cynicism and TDK provided a big medium, indeed the biggest medium to do so. The Dark Knight was the best film about America's place post 9/11, and it was a comic book, summer blockbuster movie.
Above all, its startlingly topical and relatable themes that hit America like a wildstorm. I don't think it is an accident that TDK made so much more domestically than overseas (while Rises' broader struggles of clearer good and evil appealed to the international moviegoers). The film came out in 2008, seven years removed from the most harrowing, paradigm changing event in America, the September 11 terrorist attacks on NY. This single event can be traced back to for every major social, and diplomatic changes, & moral and existential musings in America since.
2001 A Space Odyssey, captured the optimism and curiosity of Americans in the 60's; Star Wars captured the 70's need for feel good escapism after Vietnam. Yet where was the populist film that would espouse this violent, confused zeitgeist? Spielberg's War of the Worlds came close, but its flowery ending and alien invasion premise undercut whatever post 9/11 anxiety it was attempting to challenge. Replace Aliens with the ironic glasgow smile of a violent terrorist, caked in all white make up, whose very gaze is like a razor cutting your skin deep, and you begin to feel the gradual unseating of all that you hold dear.
The Joker is nothing like the religious terrorists that conspired 9/11. His concerns are far more abstract, understandable only in the vocabulary of comic book diabolics. But where he mirrors those real life villains is his absolute conviction to not commit atrocities in the name of material gain. The Joker doesn't care about money. It is but a means to an end. He wants something more sacred. He wants your very soul. He wants you to smile like he does, an eternal smile, as he makes you realize that the morality you hold dear is nothing but a nimble stack of cards. All it takes is a little push and it will all come crashing down. And that should make you very afraid indeed.
The film is able to brilliantly mirror this fear with the fear that the entire nation of America felt as the towers went down. The film instills the same sense of anxiety the Bin Laden's post attack videos that saturated American media did when the Joker fashioned his own little videos. The film instilled the same sense of pervading paranoia you felt when you went outside, and looked at the man that went to the mosque every day and for the first time, wonder if he was more than he let on. The forces of good went to the brink and beyond their moral fiber to battle this demon. Some crossed over to the other side, never to return. Batman's elaborate construction to catch the Joker was not dissimilar to Bush's Patriot Act, where people were tasked to surrender their freedom for security.
It was only a few months into the film's theatrical run that the 2008 stock market crash happened. One wonders how much that boosted the film's lifespan as people were even more willing to wallow in darkness and cynicism and TDK provided a big medium, indeed the biggest medium to do so. The Dark Knight was the best film about America's place post 9/11, and it was a comic book, summer blockbuster movie.
Above all, its startlingly topical and relatable themes that hit America like a wildstorm. I don't think it is an accident that TDK made so much more domestically than overseas (while Rises' broader struggles of clearer good and evil appealed to the international moviegoers). The film came out in 2008, seven years removed from the most harrowing, paradigm changing event in America, the September 11 terrorist attacks on NY. This single event can be traced back to for every major social, and diplomatic changes, & moral and existential musings in America since.
2001 A Space Odyssey, captured the optimism and curiosity of Americans in the 60's; Star Wars captured the 70's need for feel good escapism after Vietnam. Yet where was the populist film that would espouse this violent, confused zeitgeist? Spielberg's War of the Worlds came close, but its flowery ending and alien invasion premise undercut whatever post 9/11 anxiety it was attempting to challenge. Replace Aliens with the ironic glasgow smile of a violent terrorist, caked in all white make up, whose very gaze is like a razor cutting your skin deep, and you begin to feel the gradual unseating of all that you hold dear.
The Joker is nothing like the religious terrorists that conspired 9/11. His concerns are far more abstract, understandable only in the vocabulary of comic book diabolics. But where he mirrors those real life villains is his absolute conviction to not commit atrocities in the name of material gain. The Joker doesn't care about money. It is but a means to an end. He wants something more sacred. He wants your very soul. He wants you to smile like he does, an eternal smile, as he makes you realize that the morality you hold dear is nothing but a nimble stack of cards. All it takes is a little push and it will all come crashing down. And that should make you very afraid indeed.
The film is able to brilliantly mirror this fear with the fear that the entire nation of America felt as the towers went down. The film instills the same sense of anxiety the Bin Laden's post attack videos that saturated American media did when the Joker fashioned his own little videos. The film instilled the same sense of pervading paranoia you felt when you went outside, and looked at the man that went to the mosque every day and for the first time, wonder if he was more than he let on. The forces of good went to the brink and beyond their moral fiber to battle this demon. Some crossed over to the other side, never to return. Batman's elaborate construction to catch the Joker was not dissimilar to Bush's Patriot Act, where people were tasked to surrender their freedom for security.
It was only a few months into the film's theatrical run that the 2008 stock market crash happened. One wonders how much that boosted the film's lifespan as people were even more willing to wallow in darkness and cynicism and TDK provided a big medium, indeed the biggest medium to do so. The Dark Knight was the best film about America's place post 9/11, and it was a comic book, summer blockbuster movie.
Above all, its startlingly topical and relatable themes that hit America like a wildstorm. I don't think it is an accident that TDK made so much more domestically than overseas (while Rises' broader struggles of clearer good and evil appealed to the international moviegoers). The film came out in 2008, seven years removed from the most harrowing, paradigm changing event in America, the September 11 terrorist attacks on NY. This single event can be traced back to for every major social, and diplomatic changes, & moral and existential musings in America since.
2001 A Space Odyssey, captured the optimism and curiosity of Americans in the 60's; Star Wars captured the 70's need for feel good escapism after Vietnam. Yet where was the populist film that would espouse this violent, confused zeitgeist? Spielberg's War of the Worlds came close, but its flowery ending and alien invasion premise undercut whatever post 9/11 anxiety it was attempting to challenge. Replace Aliens with the ironic glasgow smile of a violent terrorist, caked in all white make up, whose very gaze is like a razor cutting your skin deep, and you begin to feel the gradual unseating of all that you hold dear.
The Joker is nothing like the religious terrorists that conspired 9/11. His concerns are far more abstract, understandable only in the vocabulary of comic book diabolics. But where he mirrors those real life villains is his absolute conviction to not commit atrocities in the name of material gain. The Joker doesn't care about money. It is but a means to an end. He wants something more sacred. He wants your very soul. He wants you to smile like he does, an eternal smile, as he makes you realize that the morality you hold dear is nothing but a nimble stack of cards. All it takes is a little push and it will all come crashing down. And that should make you very afraid indeed.
The film is able to brilliantly mirror this fear with the fear that the entire nation of America felt as the towers went down. The film instills the same sense of anxiety the Bin Laden's post attack videos that saturated American media did when the Joker fashioned his own little videos. The film instilled the same sense of pervading paranoia you felt when you went outside, and looked at the man that went to the mosque every day and for the first time, wonder if he was more than he let on. The forces of good went to the brink and beyond their moral fiber to battle this demon. Some crossed over to the other side, never to return. Batman's elaborate construction to catch the Joker was not dissimilar to Bush's Patriot Act, where people were tasked to surrender their freedom for security.
It was only a few months into the film's theatrical run that the 2008 stock market crash happened. One wonders how much that boosted the film's lifespan as people were even more willing to wallow in darkness and cynicism and TDK provided a big medium, indeed the biggest medium to do so. The Dark Knight was the best film about America's place post 9/11, and it was a comic book, summer blockbuster movie.
Heath Ledger.
It was mainly Heath Ledger that made this such a huge success. Batman Begins, when adjusted for inflation, was the worst performing Batman movie in the US (after Batman & Robin and Mask of the Phantasm). It ranks at #6 out of all the theatrical Batman movies (from 1989). http://boxofficemojo.com/franchises/chart/?id=batman.htm
Total BS analysis.
1) BB did badly because of Batman and Robin, the franchise was dead and Batman Begins restored it, you can find further evidence in its phenomenal DVD sales that surprised everybody, or the fact the movie had legs.
2) The notion that TDK had nothing going for it other than Ledger has been debunked ... thousands of times.
Total BS analysis.
1) BB did badly because of Batman and Robin, the franchise was dead and Batman Begins restored it, you can find further evidence in its phenomenal DVD sales that surprised everybody, or the fact the movie had legs.
When it comes to multiple quote debates, Joker IS the king. I've had some with him in the past, and he's a difficult gentleman to overcome, ill tell you that! Nowadays i sit back and enjoy Joker slay each dragon. No offense CountOrlok but i have to side with Joker on this discussion.