What next for the WWE, does it have a reason to exist?

[ArmyDragon92A]

Um, you should rely less on stereotypes and realize that these wrestlers still believe in body building. They don't get their bodies because of steroids alone. In fact, Triple H wrote a book on the subject a few years ago. And um, you missed the point because there are many people who have accused music of promoting violence in the past. You suggested that because of Chris Benoit and his actions, WWE should no longer be considered a form of entertainment. Should Rock & Roll no longer be considered a valid form of entertainment because Jim Gordon (Who wrote Layla with Eric Clapton) and went on to smash his mother's head in with a hammer? The same thing applies here. How about Kurt Cobain, who suffered from Heroin addiction and blew his brains out the back of his skull? Chris Benoit's actions and death was tragic but it doesn't change the fact that the WWE was and still is entertainment. That is the point of the WWE.

You and Jag and some others are stating all the points I've been mulling about to myself but was too lazy to type out everytime i read their posts. Good show.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Oh God

 

[thedeadite]

considering it's been around for a very long time (wwe, wwf, wwwf etcc) and been on tv for about 30 years (could be more actually) i hardly doubt they're going anywhere.

 

[Fading]

I have never been it's biggest fan. I don't enjoy it's "stories", I believe it promotesbullying and many morally questionable ideas. In the light of the steroid linked deaths and the Benoit murder/suicides is it time this "sport" is no longer seen as entertainment.

The UFC for instance provides real gladitorial spectacle, without the ludicrous soap opera. It has a far more wholesome image and promotes sportsman like behaviour for the most part, as does pro boxing which is also real. I ask you WWE, what is it's point?

You do realize Hero's doesn't have real Superheros in it right? OMG WTF, it's lying to us, it's actors following a script entertaining us, BUT THEIR NOT REAL, ban them from TV because they promote blowing up cities with your body and time traveling!!!! .

Seriously some of you need to get over yourselves. So many ppl try to tell others what entertainment to watch. I'll watch anime, and wrestling, and whatever form of entertainment that is legal on TV and not hurting anyone because it entertains me. If you don't like wrestling then tough, because others do.

It promotes bullying? It also has stories of guys running in to protect girls and other wrestlers from those "bullies". What shows anymore don't have questionable morals on their shows? This is all getting stupid, post after post, thread after thread mocking the Benoit deaths and wrestling fans in the community forums, and now ppl are blaming the entire buisness, indy promotions all the way to ones on TV and calling for it to all be canceled? Some ppl just will use anything to push their own agendas I guess, even deaths of ppl they didn't know.

I watch the UFC btw, and since when were they wholesome? We're talking about guys busting eachothers noses open, giving eachother brocoli ears, and literally choking eachother out while punching their ribs and kneeing them in the face. I mean when OJ killed (IMO it's a given) his wife, did ppl ask for football to be closed down? I mean I'm sure some football players have taken steriods, and the game is obviously the reason OJ decided to do it , this is all just getting rediculous.

It's tragic, the guy snapped, half of you never cared about wrestling and now you suddenly do, half of you never posted in the wrestling forums on this site and are now flooding it. Death is never a joke like some of you guys in the community are treating it, which is a large reason why a lot of us avoid this section of the site anymore. What Benoit did was horrible, but why should the other wrestlers working to put food on their families tables be out of jobs because of one guy?

 

[ArmyDragon92A]

You do realize Hero's doesn't have real Superheros in it right? OMG WTF, it's lying to us, it's actors following a script entertaining us, BUT THEIR NOT REAL, ban them from TV because they promote blowing up cities with your body and time traveling!!!! .

Seriously some of you need to get over yourselves. So many ppl try to tell others what entertainment to watch. I'll watch anime, and wrestling, and whatever form of entertainment that is legal on TV and not hurting anyone because it entertains me. If you don't like wrestling then tough, because others do.

It promotes bullying? It also has stories of guys running in to protect girls and other wrestlers from those "bullies". What shows anymore don't have questionable morals on their shows? This is all getting stupid, post after post, thread after thread mocking the Benoit deaths and wrestling fans in the community forums, and now ppl are blaming the entire buisness, indy promotions all the way to ones on TV and calling for it to all be canceled? Some ppl just will use anything to push their own agendas I guess, even deaths of ppl they didn't know.

I watch the UFC btw, and since when were they wholesome? We're talking about guys busting eachothers noses open, giving eachother brocoli ears, and literally choking eachother out while punching their ribs and kneeing them in the face. I mean when OJ killed (IMO it's a given) his wife, did ppl ask for football to be closed down? I mean I'm sure some football players have taken steriods, and the game is obviously the reason OJ decided to do it , this is all just getting rediculous.

It's tragic, the guy snapped, half of you never cared about wrestling and now you suddenly do, half of you never posted in the wrestling forums on this site and are now flooding it. Death is never a joke like some of you guys in the community are treating it, which is a large reason why a lot of us avoid this section of the site anymore. What Benoit did was horrible, but why should the other wrestlers working to put food on their families tables be out of jobs because of one guy?

 

[Fading]

There is a difference between watching a movie with a well thought out plot, good dialogue, good character development, and good fight scenes and watching two guys act the way they do on Wrestling.

I really dont' believe that a kid watching Spider-Man pull two kids out of the way of a bus, and risking his own life to save others has the exact same effect as watching two guys insult and fight each other just for the sake of insulting and fighting each other.

I feel that wrestling promotes the "idiot male" syndrome.

Do you also think that a kid watching Venom impailing a guy with a glider will get the same message as WWE wrestlers going down to Iraq, risking their lives, and shaking hands with the troops, or dying children in hospitals and showing it on TV is the same message?

It works both ways, you can't act like all TV and movies are wholesome compared to wrestling. Wrestling may overexagerate and have some stupid storyline, or guys cussing and beating eachother. They also have ppl helping eachother in tag matches, friends (storyline wise) helping friends, and even had a kid dying of cancer I believe it was as general manager for the night from the make a wish foundation, and gave him his dream and air time.

I think close mindedness promotes "drama nazi" syndrome.

 

[Fading]

Heh, I just can't help it. There's no reason for this to be played out and mocked so much. Ppl died, some ppl out there in the real world are bawling their eyes out over lost family members and friends, and here on the community forums there are guys acting holier than thou mocking it. I mean a car blew up and hurt some ppl in Glassgow today...is cancelling wrestling really the most important topic or relavent one today? It just amazes me that ppl can say burn in hell to someone (for ppl who actually believe in hell like myself, it's the last thing you'd wish on someone, even your worst enemy), or make jokes that Benoit put the crippler crossface on his son, and make photoshop manips of it all, and then come off with an attitude like they have the moral high ground.

 

[Warhammer]

Do you also think that a kid watching Venom impailing a guy with a glider will get the same message as WWE wrestlers going down to Iraq, risking their lives, and shaking hands with the troops, or dying children in hospitals and showing it on TV is the same message?

It works both ways, you can't act like all TV and movies are wholesome compared to wrestling. Wrestling may overexagerate and have some stupid storyline, or guys cussing and beating eachother. They also have ppl helping eachother in tag matches, friends (storyline wise) helping friends, and even had a kid dying of cancer I believe it was as general manager for the night from the make a wish foundation, and gave him his dream and air time.

I think close mindedness promotes "drama nazi" syndrome.

Don't bother.
Spider-Bite isn't going to get it.

 

[Spider-Bite]

Well, I guess I can't change how you feel.
I see wrestling as no more violent, if not less violent, than alot of film today.

It's the manner the violence is presented. And I'm not denying that there are other films out there that aren't good for kids, but their being bad doesn't make wrestling good.

What are you talking about?

The Exorcist was about a girl who was possessed by the devil.
You missed my whole point about how violent it was. I'm NOT talking about the plot, I'm talking about the violence in the movie. What child thinks that they are going to be evil spirits?

Kids do think they are wrestlers though. You see what I mean? They look up to these guys and get the idea that being tough, macho, mean, and violent is what they should do. Nobody looks up to and immitates evil spirits. A kid isn't going to try and possess somebody. Yes that movie is more than likely not meant for kids, but wrestling is aimed directly at kids, with action figures, and bright colored costumes. They do that intentionally to get kids to watch.

Who says that?
Seriously, you must think of yourself as superior to most humans.

I do believe that my views are more accurate than most people's views. I disagree with most people on a lot of stuff, and obviously I think I'm right. It's kind of difficult to disagree with yourself.

In addition, I don't know how anybody can disagree with the statment that the human race is arrogant and ignorant. We might end up being the first species to ever cause it's own extinction. We don't need asteroids, or natural disasters, or predators to do it for us.

That doesn't change the fact that some feminist views are downright ignorant.

Obviously not every feminist is going to be right 100% of the time, because nobody is. I'm just saying the fact that I sounded like a feminist does not make me incorrect. Feminists is a term given to women who believe that men can be socially equal to men in society. They are correct.

No, what you said is an opinion.
Who are you to speak for every male who watches wrestling? Last time I checked, you weren't Professor Xavier. All men who watch wrestling must idolize the men because they want to be them? Ridiculous.

I never said ALL men. I specifically said not all men. But the wrestlers literally act like idiots. I dont' understand why people would want to watch men in their speedos pretend to fight while they act like brainless steroid pumped idiots, unless they were kind of dumb themselves.

I'm sorry, but I think you are a feminist, with your dogmatic views of men.

Well I'm not sure if a guy can be labeled a feminist, but I agree with the movement they helped bring about. And politically speaking I do have more in common with women than men when you average it out. I'm a far left liberal, and women vote heavily democrat, and I oppose war, the death penalty, and oppression. And stastically all over the world women are more likely to take those positions than men.

You want it simple? Bush won the male vote while both Kerry and Gore won the female vote. Men are more conservative than women.

 

[ArmyDragon92A]

It's the manner the violence is presented. And I'm not denying that there are other films out there that aren't good for kids, but their being bad doesn't make wrestling good.


Kids do think they are wrestlers though. You see what I mean? They look up to these guys and get the idea that being tough, macho, mean, and violent is what they should do. Nobody looks up to and immitates evil spirits. A kid isn't going to try and possess somebody. Yes that movie is more than likely not meant for kids, but wrestling is aimed directly at kids, with action figures, and bright colored costumes. They do that intentionally to get kids to watch.



I do believe that my views are more accurate than most people's views. I disagree with most people on a lot of stuff, and obviously I think I'm right. It's kind of difficult to disagree with yourself.

In addition, I don't know how anybody can disagree with the statment that the human race is arrogant and ignorant. We might end up being the first species to ever cause it's own extinction. We don't need asteroids, or natural disasters, or predators to do it for us.




Obviously not every feminist is going to be right 100% of the time, because nobody is. I'm just saying the fact that I sounded like a feminist does not make me incorrect. Feminists is a term given to women who believe that men can be socially equal to men in society. They are correct.


I never said ALL men. I specifically said not all men. But the wrestlers literally act like idiots. I dont' understand why people would want to watch men in their speedos pretend to fight while they act like brainless steroid pumped idiots, unless they were kind of dumb themselves.



Well I'm not sure if a guy can be labeled a feminist, but I agree with the movement they helped bring about. And politically speaking I do have more in common with women than men when you average it out. I'm a far left liberal, and women vote heavily democrat, and I oppose war, the death penalty, and oppression. And stastically all over the world women are more likely to take those positions than men.

You want it simple? Bush won the male vote while both Kerry and Gore won the female vote. Men are more conservative than women.

You are one Narrow minded Chick.

Wait you're a guy aren't you? Hard to tell

 

[Spider-Bite]

Do you also think that a kid watching Venom impailing a guy with a glider will get the same message as WWE wrestlers going down to Iraq, risking their lives, and shaking hands with the troops, or dying children in hospitals and showing it on TV is the same message?

You forget Venom was the bad guy. And Eddie Brock by no means promoted stupidity, and the movie specifically preached forgiveness, and said don't give into the darkness, the rage, the violent instincts or it will consume you. geez.

Wrestling is not professional or dignified, and the wrestlers display absolutely no good sportsmanship or maturity. They basically promote the fact that your supposed to act like a big dumb brute.

It works both ways, you can't act like all TV and movies are wholesome compared to wrestling.

I never, ever, ever, ever, said that. I wouldn't want kids watching ShowGirls either. My point is that wrestling promotes idiot syndrome in kids and adults, because they come off as juiced thugs.

Wrestling may overexagerate and have some stupid storyline, or guys cussing and beating eachother. They also have ppl helping eachother in tag matches, friends (storyline wise) helping friends, and even had a kid dying of cancer I believe it was as general manager for the night from the make a wish foundation, and gave him his dream and air time.

I think close mindedness promotes "drama nazi" syndrome.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1nmZ5P7JLA&mode=related&search=

Look at the way they talk and the faces they make. It promotes stupidity. it combines stupidity with violence, and makes buys and men think that is how they are supposed to act.

 

[Spider-Bite]

You are one Narrow minded Chick.

Wait you're a guy aren't you? Hard to tell

yup because anybody who believes in equal rights for men and women must be a women. You must be one of those wrestling fans I was talking about.

 

[Warhammer]

It's the manner the violence is presented. And I'm not denying that there are other films out there that aren't good for kids, but their being bad doesn't make wrestling good.

I never said wrestling was good.
I am just defending a biased view that wrestling is violent, even though there are things on TV worse than two men hitting each other.

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Kids do think they are wrestlers though. You see what I mean? They look up to these guys and get the idea that being tough, macho, mean, and violent is what they should do. Nobody looks up to and immitates evil spirits. A kid isn't going to try and possess somebody. Yes that movie is more than likely not meant for kids, but wrestling is aimed directly at kids, with action figures, and bright colored costumes. They do that intentionally to get kids to watch.

Ok, now I know that using The Exorcist as an example was wrong.
This conversation has NOTHING to do with evil spirits. I am talking about the VIOLENCE in that film, not the demons. I never said anything about kids looking up to demons or trying to possess somebody. Geez, I am talking about the violence. I never said anything about anything appealing to kids. My original post COMPARED the VIOLENCE from wrestling and The Exorcist.



Besides, you do realize that kids grow up, right?!
When they become teenagers, they mature and stop trying to be like their favorite wrestler. You and I all wanted to be Batman or whoever when we were little. When he matured, that went away.

I do believe that my views are more accurate than most people's views. I disagree with most people on a lot of stuff, and obviously I think I'm right. It's kind of difficult to disagree with yourself.

Fine.

In addition, I don't know how anybody can disagree with the statment that the human race is arrogant and ignorant. We might end up being the first species to ever cause it's own extinction. We don't need asteroids, or natural disasters, or predators to do it for us.

Oh my God.
Get real, man.

Obviously not every feminist is going to be right 100% of the time, because nobody is. I'm just saying the fact that I sounded like a feminist does not make me incorrect. Feminists is a term given to women who believe that men can be socially equal to men in society. They are correct.

Ok, fine.

I never said ALL men. I specifically said not all men. But the wrestlers literally act like idiots. I dont' understand why people would want to watch men in their speedos pretend to fight while they act like brainless steroid pumped idiots, unless they were kind of dumb themselves.

Because it's entertainment.
That is just as ridiculous as watching a movie about a man in a bat suit.
You, I, and the rest of the posters on this whole board are dumb, too, right?

Well I'm not sure if a guy can be labeled a feminist, but I agree with the movement they helped bring about. And politically speaking I do have more in common with women than men when you average it out. I'm a far left liberal, and women vote heavily democrat, and I oppose war, the death penalty, and oppression. And stastically all over the world women are more likely to take those positions than men.

You want it simple? Bush won the male vote while both Kerry and Gore won the female vote. Men are more conservative than women.

Whatever floats your boat, man.

 

[ArmyDragon92A]

yup because anybody who believes in equal rights for men and women must be a women. You must be one of those wrestling fans I was talking about.

You're a fool. You realize to PROMOTE something they would have to be saying "DO THIS GUYS!!" and "BE LIKE ME!!! CUS IM COOL!!! YOU CAN BE TOO!"

The most they say is , "come see your favorite wrestler"

"come watch a good show"

Power Rangers? "Wanna be like the red ranger!?!??! Join Tiger Shoman's!"

UFC? "The Next Ultimate Fighter"

Spider-Man? "Get your new Web blaster and be just like Spider-Man in the movie!"

You're being pathetically biased without much reason to do so other than starting a crap ass argument to fuel your dislike for the show and the industry. And you're being incredibly ignorant to the entire idea that you're absolutely wrong.

 

[ArmyDragon92A]

You forget Venom was the bad guy. And Eddie Brock by no means promoted stupidity, and the movie specifically preached forgiveness, and said don't give into the darkness, the rage, the violent instincts or it will consume you. geez.

Wrestling is not professional or dignified, and the wrestlers display absolutely no good sportsmanship or maturity. They basically promote the fact that your supposed to act like a big dumb brute.



I never, ever, ever, ever, said that. I wouldn't want kids watching ShowGirls either. My point is that wrestling promotes idiot syndrome in kids and adults, because they come off as juiced thugs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1nmZ5P7JLA&mode=related&search=

Look at the way they talk and the faces they make. It promotes stupidity. it combines stupidity with violence, and makes buys and men think that is how they are supposed to act.[/quote]

Not even the fans would believe or display anything that foolish. Just stop it. No one believes you.

 

[Warhammer]

You forget Venom was the bad guy. And Eddie Brock by no means promoted stupidity, and the movie specifically preached forgiveness, and said don't give into the darkness, the rage, the violent instincts or it will consume you. geez.

Wrestling is not professional or dignified, and the wrestlers display absolutely no good sportsmanship or maturity. They basically promote the fact that your supposed to act like a big dumb brute.

No, stop doing that.
You are being so biased. Violence is violence, no matter what the situation.
If you watchBraveheart, the violence in that film must be justified because William Wallace and his people were fighting against oppression, right? People getting stabbed with swords, people getting their heads cut off, and people getting hit with arrows is justified against two men hitting each other?

I never, ever, ever, ever, said that. I wouldn't want kids watching ShowGirls either. My point is that wrestling promotes idiot syndrome in kids and adults, because they come off as juiced thugs.

That is only a matter of opinion that they come off as juiced thugs.
You are probably the only person who seriously sees such a big problem with wrestling. I've seen people who either like it, or think that it is not mature. Never have I seen a person who seriously sees wrestlers as thugs and evil men, trying to poison anyone who watches it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1nmZ5P7JLA&mode=related&search=

Look at the way they talk and the faces they make. It promotes stupidity. it combines stupidity with violence, and makes buys and men think that is how they are supposed to act.

It's not promoting anything.
It's FAKE.
It's ENTERTAINMENT.

Anybody who is 15 or up clearly sees it as entertainment. They don't try to be a Stone Cold, or The Rock, or any other wrestler. Damn...
This is as ridiculous.

 

[Spider-Bite]

You're a fool. You realize to PROMOTE something they would have to be saying "DO THIS GUYS!!" and "BE LIKE ME!!! CUS IM COOL!!! YOU CAN BE TOO!"

they do say that. Just because they dont' mouth the words doesn't mean they aren't saying that. Kids idolize them. You didn't know that?

Power Rangers? "Wanna be like the red ranger!?!??! Join Tiger Shoman's!"

What's your point? How does that change anything about wrestling?

UFC? "The Next Ultimate Fighter"

a lot of kids shouldn't be watching that either. some fighters display good sportsmanship, and others don't ignoring the conseqences of their behavior. That bad boy whatever his name is, is a horrible influence on children. while other fighters promote staying in shape, being in tone with your body and mind, and studying the marital arts. And on top of that they don't act like idiots. I'm not saying the UFC is perfect for every kid to watch. In fact most kids shouldn't be watching it.

Spider-Man? "Get your new Web blaster and be just like Spider-Man in the movie!"

That's actually not a bad thing. Interested in science, cares about his Aunt, believes that with Great Power comes Great responsiblity. dont' fight for revenge. Help others. Protect people. Spider-Man doesn't sit there talking like an idiot. He acts intelligently.

You're being pathetically biased without much reason to do so other than starting a crap ass argument to fuel your dislike for the show and the industry. And you're being incredibly ignorant to the entire idea that you're absolutely wrong.

No I'm not. I belive that wrestling is not good for kids. You point to other shows that you believe aren't good, but that has absolutely no bearing on how good or bad wrestling is. So dont' talk to me about ignorant, because thats an incredibly ignorant argument to make. That's like saying the rapist isn't a bad guy because murderers are worse.

The thing is that on wrestling they act violent and they act stupid.

I know people need stuff to enjoy in life, or life would be boring, but I wish that parents wouldn't let kids watch wrestling. And I wish the UFC was a little cleaner than it is. And I'm glad that it's not aimed at children, and it's shown when most children are in bed.

I'm also glad that in the UFC they display honor and integrity by obeying the rules and congratulaing each other. They dont' beat up the referree or grab chairs when the ref isn't looking. They talk about the hard word and effort it is to be a martial artist. They take it serious and they don't sit and talk crap in this deep animal voice for a half hour before and after the match. The guys in wrestling look like they are drunk half the time.

 

[Spider-Bite]

I never said wrestling was good.
I am just defending a biased view that wrestling is violent, even though there are things on TV worse than two men hitting each other.

Ok, now I know that using The Exorcist as an example was wrong.
This conversation has NOTHING to do with evil spirits. I am talking about the VIOLENCE in that film, not the demons. I never said anything about kids looking up to demons or trying to possess somebody. Geez, I am talking about the violence. I never said anything about anything appealing to kids. My original post COMPARED the VIOLENCE from wrestling and The Exorcist.

the difference between wrestling and other shows is that on Wrestling they fight for no reason. They talk crap about each other for no reason. And I'm not denying that the amount of violence on tv is nto good for children.

Besides, you do realize that kids grow up, right?!
When they become teenagers, they mature and stop trying to be like their favorite wrestler. You and I all wanted to be Batman or whoever when we were little. When he matured, that went away.

Events from you childhood make up like 75% of who you will be for the rest of your life.

Fine.



Oh my God.
Get real, man.

Anybody that doubt the potential for the end of the human race is being arrogant.

Because it's entertainment.
That is just as ridiculous as watching a movie about a man in a bat suit.
You, I, and the rest of the posters on this whole board are dumb, too, right?

Batman does not act stupid though, and he doesn't beat people up for fun. He's trying to do good in the world.

I know that even though chocolate cake is not good for society that doesn't mean we should never eat it. I'm just saying that wrestling does promote the idea that people should act like big dumb brutes. And I do think it is kind of a mindless stupid franchise. And those guys act so ridiculous that it's laughable.

 

[Spade]

I don't feel that most wrestling programs are nearly as violent or profane as other shows out there (anyone seen some of the stuff they allow on the crime dramas?), but wrestling petered out for me as a medium a while back. The WWF buying out the WCW and ECW was one of the worst things to happen to the mainstream sport in some time. Before, it was optional whether or not you wanted to see one or the other and caused rivalry as well as a turn away from mediocrity. Nowadays, not so much- if anything, it's stagnated. ArmyDragon92A is valid in saying it's made money due to popularity, but that doesn't necessarily mean that the medium isn't bloated by its issues by now.

I can see where Spider-Bite and Whirlysplat are coming from: it does sensationalize things that are morally wrong. But if you're a parent or a person who doesn't want to support something like that, there's something infinitely easier to do if you don't like it: don't watch it. Simple as that. I don't like wrestling anymore because of the aforementioned loss of appeal due to the storyline stagnancy and lack of imagination, but I'm not starting a group over it. I just don't choose to watch it. I'm neither supporting it nor trying to see it shut down. There aren't many other activites simpler than choosing not to partake in something.

 

[Warhammer]

the difference between wrestling and other shows is that on Wrestling they fight for no reason. They talk crap about each other for no reason. And I'm not denying that the amount of violence on tv is nto good for children.

Wrestling is like a TV show...
There are scripts and storylines, meaning that there is a reason.

Events from you childhood make up like 75% of who you will be for the rest of your life.

Batman was so big in my childhood.
I'm not even lying about that. So this means that I want to grow up to be a loner? People grow up and mature. Childhood experiences in the real world can influence a life, not watching wrestling and being like "I want to grow upz and fightz teh people forz teh world title belt!!"

Get real.

Anybody that doubt the potential for the end of the human race is being arrogant.

I was pointing out that the end of the human race doesn't have the slightest thing to do in this argument.

Batman does not act stupid though, and he doesn't beat people up for fun. He's trying to do good in the world.

Wrestlings acting stupid is an opinion that you said because you obviously have a grudge against wrestling. You might as well say that actors are stupid because they are portraying something that is not true. Wrestlers are actors, too. It's FAKE.

Also, Batman's motives doesn't change the fact that a man dressed up as a bat is ridiculous. His motives have nothing to do with anything that we are talking about. There you go again trying to justify something to make the other sound inferior.

I know that even though chocolate cake is not good for society that doesn't mean we should never eat it. I'm just saying that wrestling does promote the idea that people should act like big dumb brutes. And I do think it is kind of a mindless stupid franchise. And those guys act so ridiculous that it's laughable.

No, it doesn't.
It's fake. We watch it solely on entertainment. Does watching the NFL promote acting like a brute? No, it's a sport. Again, the rest of what you said is your opinion. Some people enjoy watching it because they are entertained. You know why? Because the sole purpose of wrestling is not to promote brutality, it's to entertain. You might as well say all action films are bad because they support brutality and violence. Again, you clearly have a double standard/bias against wrestling. Just admit it.

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I am done with this ludicrous arguing.

 

[Spider-Bite]

so where exactly do you disagree with me? I came in shared my opinion, and then you try to debate me and then after much debate you combatively agree with me, but try to make it sound like you disagree with me at the same time.

 

[Warhammer]

so where exactly do you disagree with me? I came in shared my opinion, and then you try to debate me and then after much debate you combatively agree with me, but try to make it sound like you disagree with me at the same time.

It's pretty apparent where I disagreed with you at.
If you mean the feminist stuff, I dropped that because arguing about that gets us nowhere.

 

[Kritish]

It's never really had a purpose. It's just very cheap entertainment for many males.

Males with homosexual desires, am I the only person that thinks it's gay to watch a couple of well muscled men grab each other as they wear speedos?

 

[Spade]

Add some KY jelly and it all turns into a longer version of 300.

 

[BlackLantern]

as a long time fan, i am considering not watching anymore after this whole ugly week. this is a form of entertainment that has been around since the turn of the century 1900...and it will prevail in some form or another, be it WWE, TNA or whatever else. as for UFC, i find that slightly more disturbing. Who wakes up and decides they want to beat people up for a career? seems a little more sick to me than prescripted wrestling