What X-Men: The Last Stand got right...

[Team Andino]

Really the "good" things have already been mentioned but just for the sake of posting my input heres what I enjoyed

-Beast
-The Musical Score
-Cyclops until they killed him off for no reason
-Silhouette of a Sentinel in the Danger Room
-The Theme of Days of the Future past in Danger Room

Of course Hugh Jackman and Patrick Stewart among others did great jobs in there roles but they've been doing it for 2 other movies and I tried to stay with things this movie did right

 

[Compi716]

Iceman v. Pyro.
The first scene with Angel.
Cyclops' awesome leather jacket.

 

[The Original Bamfer]

Iceman v. Pyro.
The first scene with Angel.
Cyclops' awesome leather jacket.

Haha, for sure!

 

[xphoenix_forcex]

kitty vs juggernaut.
i think that scene was well done!

 

[The Original Bamfer]

kitty vs juggernaut.
i think that scene was well done!

I do too, actually. I'm not sure many people agree with us, though. I thought the way Kitty defeated Juggernaut was really smart.

 

[DMRadz]

Well that's kitty for you.

 

[psyonic]

Nothing?

 

[Congo Jack]

- The scene where young Warren cut his wings off was very good.

- The Danger Room "Days of Future Past" scene was alright.

- Logan in the woods was pretty good.

- Kelsey Grammer, Ellen Page, Ben Foster were all well cast.

 

[Halcohol]

I really liked how Juggernaut was done in the film. Call me crazy, but I thought he was a decent representation of the character. Also, Vinnie Jones rulez

 

[Rac]

A great, great, great last shot.

That was terrible. Sun is shining, Logan is smiling and looking at the sky. Everything's okay now! Happy happy joy joy! :throwingupsmiley

(Unless the last shot was the Magneto playing chess. That was okay. Can't remember which one. I've seen the movie once, and that was in 5.25.2006)

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

As a fan of X-Men: The Last Stand I can't believe that I haven't already posted in this thread except to talk about the color palette.

Anyways, everyone knows what the movie got wrong, and I pretty much agree with those things, but here is what I believe the movie got -right-

*Explanation of the Phoenix
In my opinion, the mental blocks / dual personality is really the most consistent explanation with what the previous movies set up. With Magneto's mutation machine established to have no effects on mutants, there had to be another reason why it effected Jean. The mental blocks is the perfect explanation as to why Jean Grey was more sensitive to it when the other mutants weren't. In addition, I still like the fact that the struggle between Jean Grey / Phoenix occurred at the mention of Scott. When Wolverine brought up Scott, Jean Grey became herself again, and the struggle between her and Phoenix began. When Xavier mentioned Scott, her emotions of killing her lover with her uncontrolled power overwhelmed her, and as a result her powers were unleashed and the Phoenix awoken. And during the climax, it was Wolverine's willingness to die for her that brought Jean back. But throughout the entire movie, her desire to be killed came from her love for Scott, and what she did to him. The Phoenix Saga may not have played out the way it was supposed to, but at least they retained that one particular (and vital) element.

*Beast
Sure, he wasn't really in the laboratory like a lot of us would have liked to have seen, but Beast's political angle, his dialogue, tone, mannerisms, everything about the character was done very well in regards to the source material.

*Magneto
Magneto is, in my opinion, the best translation from comics to movies in the entire trilogy. X-Men: The Last Stand continued his character from the previous movies, and brought to a light a few of his comic book counterpart's traits - the televised terrorist threat, the elegant speeches and army building, the quest for mutant liberation at any cost, the defense of his fallen friend's legacy.

*Cyclops' reaction to Jean Grey's death
Maybe my cartoon memories are overwhelming my comic book recollection, but Cyclops grieving and leaving the team in light of Jean Grey's death seems perfectly in character. What happened on his departure was not in character, or accurate, but his leaving, and his interaction with Wolverine before leaving, was priceless to me. And if it weren't for the outcome of the movie's events, would be one of my favorite moments of the trilogy.

Those are some of my favorite elements off the bat. I may come back and post more later.

 

[[A]]

kitty vs juggernaut.
i think that scene was well done!

I liked that one too

 

[The Original Bamfer]

As a fan of X-Men: The Last Stand I can't believe that I haven't already posted in this thread except to talk about the color palette.

Anyways, everyone knows what the movie got wrong, and I pretty much agree with those things, but here is what I believe the movie got -right-

*Explanation of the Phoenix
In my opinion, the mental blocks / dual personality is really the most consistent explanation with what the previous movies set up. With Magneto's mutation machine established to have no effects on mutants, there had to be another reason why it effected Jean. The mental blocks is the perfect explanation as to why Jean Grey was more sensitive to it when the other mutants weren't. In addition, I still like the fact that the struggle between Jean Grey / Phoenix occurred at the mention of Scott. When Wolverine brought up Scott, Jean Grey became herself again, and the struggle between her and Phoenix began. When Xavier mentioned Scott, her emotions of killing her lover with her uncontrolled power overwhelmed her, and as a result her powers were unleashed and the Phoenix awoken. And during the climax, it was Wolverine's willingness to die for her that brought Jean back. But throughout the entire movie, her desire to be killed came from her love for Scott, and what she did to him. The Phoenix Saga may not have played out the way it was supposed to, but at least they retained that one particular (and vital) element.

*Beast
Sure, he wasn't really in the laboratory like a lot of us would have liked to have seen, but Beast's political angle, his dialogue, tone, mannerisms, everything about the character was done very well in regards to the source material.

*Magneto
Magneto is, in my opinion, the best translation from comics to movies in the entire trilogy. X-Men: The Last Stand continued his character from the previous movies, and brought to a light a few of his comic book counterpart's traits - the televised terrorist threat, the elegant speeches and army building, the quest for mutant liberation at any cost, the defense of his fallen friend's legacy.

*Cyclops' reaction to Jean Grey's death
Maybe my cartoon memories are overwhelming my comic book recollection, but Cyclops grieving and leaving the team in light of Jean Grey's death seems perfectly in character. What happened on his departure was not in character, or accurate, but his leaving, and his interaction with Wolverine before leaving, was priceless to me. And if it weren't for the outcome of the movie's events, would be one of my favorite moments of the trilogy.

Those are some of my favorite elements off the bat. I may come back and post more later.

I agree with pretty much all of this.

 

[Legion]

As a fan of X-Men: The Last Stand I can't believe that I haven't already posted in this thread except to talk about the color palette.

Anyways, everyone knows what the movie got wrong, and I pretty much agree with those things, but here is what I believe the movie got -right-

*Explanation of the Phoenix
In my opinion, the mental blocks / dual personality is really the most consistent explanation with what the previous movies set up. With Magneto's mutation machine established to have no effects on mutants, there had to be another reason why it effected Jean. The mental blocks is the perfect explanation as to why Jean Grey was more sensitive to it when the other mutants weren't. In addition, I still like the fact that the struggle between Jean Grey / Phoenix occurred at the mention of Scott. When Wolverine brought up Scott, Jean Grey became herself again, and the struggle between her and Phoenix began. When Xavier mentioned Scott, her emotions of killing her lover with her uncontrolled power overwhelmed her, and as a result her powers were unleashed and the Phoenix awoken. And during the climax, it was Wolverine's willingness to die for her that brought Jean back. But throughout the entire movie, her desire to be killed came from her love for Scott, and what she did to him. The Phoenix Saga may not have played out the way it was supposed to, but at least they retained that one particular (and vital) element.

*Beast
Sure, he wasn't really in the laboratory like a lot of us would have liked to have seen, but Beast's political angle, his dialogue, tone, mannerisms, everything about the character was done very well in regards to the source material.

*Magneto
Magneto is, in my opinion, the best translation from comics to movies in the entire trilogy. X-Men: The Last Stand continued his character from the previous movies, and brought to a light a few of his comic book counterpart's traits - the televised terrorist threat, the elegant speeches and army building, the quest for mutant liberation at any cost, the defense of his fallen friend's legacy.

*Cyclops' reaction to Jean Grey's death
Maybe my cartoon memories are overwhelming my comic book recollection, but Cyclops grieving and leaving the team in light of Jean Grey's death seems perfectly in character. What happened on his departure was not in character, or accurate, but his leaving, and his interaction with Wolverine before leaving, was priceless to me. And if it weren't for the outcome of the movie's events, would be one of my favorite moments of the trilogy.

Those are some of my favorite elements off the bat. I may come back and post more later.

I agree with most of the above except the part about Magneto. Magneto seemed like a bit of a inconsistant to me in the movies. In the first movie he wanted to turn the leaders of the world into mutants so that mutant problems would become their own. In X2 he tried to exterminate the human race using Xavier and dark cerebro...

In X3 I liked the televised threats, the building of the mutant army. What I didn't like was his intentions to kill Leech, a young boy. I didn't like that he was going to kill Rogue in X1 either. I always thought Magneto wasn't exactly evil...just misguided and extreme..but he does have a noble side. But I don't think we ever saw that side in the movies.

I remember in an old comic he had believed he killed Kitty Pryde and it hit him hard, he told Storm that she could kill him if she wanted...it eventually caused him to reform and later become the headmaster for the X-Men while Xavier lived with Lilandra.

In would have been nice if Xavier's death sparked a transformation in him. Or even if they kept him as the villain he should have done something more threatening than marching on alcatraz, if he got a hold of some missles or put the nation in a black out maybe.

I also think the character just lacked passion.

 

[EnDz0n3]

It's really unfair to say its unacceptable to say negative comments about the film on this thread.

So here goes:

I think the Danger Room sequence is one of the most poorly executed scenes in the entire trilogy.

(Unless the last shot was the Magneto playing chess. That was okay. Can't remember which one. I've seen the movie once, and that was in 5.25.2006)

That shot is ruined by a very CGI-looking Angel.

Kitty annoyed me in this movie. Same as the comics i guess hehe

Beast, Juggernaut make-up were very weak. I'm hoping Blob won't disappoint.

Now to the parts I liked...hmmm...lemme think

Xavier's death scene. The different reactions, from Magneto, to Jean, to Xavier to Storm/Logan. The CGI looked very good in this scene.

Rogue seeing the error in her ways when she hooked up with Bobby. Of course Rogue had to take the cure...

Beast's role. Although as mentioned, I thought Hank looked laughable in his X-men costume (fur looked ridiculous), he actually looked good in a suit.

can't think of anything else right now. Been a while since i've seen the film.

 

[ChaoticPsylocke]

As a fan of X-Men: The Last Stand I can't believe that I haven't already posted in this thread except to talk about the color palette.

Anyways, everyone knows what the movie got wrong, and I pretty much agree with those things, but here is what I believe the movie got -right-

*Explanation of the Phoenix
In my opinion, the mental blocks / dual personality is really the most consistent explanation with what the previous movies set up. With Magneto's mutation machine established to have no effects on mutants, there had to be another reason why it effected Jean. The mental blocks is the perfect explanation as to why Jean Grey was more sensitive to it when the other mutants weren't. In addition, I still like the fact that the struggle between Jean Grey / Phoenix occurred at the mention of Scott. When Wolverine brought up Scott, Jean Grey became herself again, and the struggle between her and Phoenix began. When Xavier mentioned Scott, her emotions of killing her lover with her uncontrolled power overwhelmed her, and as a result her powers were unleashed and the Phoenix awoken. And during the climax, it was Wolverine's willingness to die for her that brought Jean back. But throughout the entire movie, her desire to be killed came from her love for Scott, and what she did to him. The Phoenix Saga may not have played out the way it was supposed to, but at least they retained that one particular (and vital) element.

*Beast
Sure, he wasn't really in the laboratory like a lot of us would have liked to have seen, but Beast's political angle, his dialogue, tone, mannerisms, everything about the character was done very well in regards to the source material.

*Magneto
Magneto is, in my opinion, the best translation from comics to movies in the entire trilogy. X-Men: The Last Stand continued his character from the previous movies, and brought to a light a few of his comic book counterpart's traits - the televised terrorist threat, the elegant speeches and army building, the quest for mutant liberation at any cost, the defense of his fallen friend's legacy.

*Cyclops' reaction to Jean Grey's death
Maybe my cartoon memories are overwhelming my comic book recollection, but Cyclops grieving and leaving the team in light of Jean Grey's death seems perfectly in character. What happened on his departure was not in character, or accurate, but his leaving, and his interaction with Wolverine before leaving, was priceless to me. And if it weren't for the outcome of the movie's events, would be one of my favorite moments of the trilogy.

Those are some of my favorite elements off the bat. I may come back and post more later.

i wish thye had actually said something about the connection of magnetos machine with jeans mental blocks.

to us, the people that follow the franchise's every moment, it makes sense. but im sure that most people watching the trilogy did not put the two together. in the med lab scene in x3, all that had ot be said was that jean had a reaction to the machine or whatever which undid all the work xavier had put in. only worded differently. it would make way more sense. and connect all three movies much better.

 

[X-Maniac]

i wish thye had actually said something about the connection of magnetos machine with jeans mental blocks.

to us, the people that follow the franchise's every moment, it makes sense. but im sure that most people watching the trilogy did not put the two together. in the med lab scene in x3, all that had ot be said was that jean had a reaction to the machine or whatever which undid all the work xavier had put in. only worded differently. it would make way more sense. and connect all three movies much better.

Scott stated in X2 that Jean had changed, but it was so understated that most people missed the reference to Magneto's machine.

It might have been interesting to explore that Magneto was responsible for breaking the blocks...but with that event being in a movie six years before, I can understand why it was left out.

Jean's return from the lake was the main new thing about her character in X3 and the mainstream audience didn't need the complexity of Magneto's machine, just that she had risen again and was different. The turning point required for the movie was her 'resurrection' not the machine six years before. All that other stuff about the machine etc is for obsessive fans like us lot on here!

 

[X-Maniac]

It's really unfair to say its unacceptable to say negative comments about the film on this thread.

However, this thread is called 'what the last stand got right.'

So here goes:

I think the Danger Room sequence is one of the most poorly executed scenes in the entire trilogy.

How so? Why?

That shot is ruined by a very CGI-looking Angel.

Disagree, but i wanted more Angel in the movie

Kitty annoyed me in this movie. Same as the comics i guess hehe

Then that's your personal taste, not a fault of movie or comics.

Beast, Juggernaut make-up were very weak. I'm hoping Blob won't disappoint.

I thought Beast and Juggernaut were mostly fine. I just wanted Juggernaut to be more menacing and less cheesy.

Xavier's death scene. The different reactions, from Magneto, to Jean, to Xavier to Storm/Logan. The CGI looked very good in this scene.

Agreed. Loved the stopping of time before Xavier's disintegration.

Rogue seeing the error in her ways when she hooked up with Bobby. Of course Rogue had to take the cure...

Yep, well, most of us think she should not have taken the cure. The mainstream audience weren't crapping themselves over it like people on here, for them it seemed a logical resolution to the character's story.

Beast's role. Although as mentioned, I thought Hank looked laughable in his X-men costume (fur looked ridiculous), he actually looked good in a suit.

Blue fur is always going to be tricky. But I thought that, overall, it worked.

 

[EnDz0n3]

haha my bad. It's been a while since I've actually talked about X-men 3, so just wanted to let that all out.

But since you asked Re: Danger Room sequence, it had shoddy special effects, stunts and props. Fast ball special and the Sentinel head come to mind.

 

[ChaoticPsylocke]

Yep, well, most of us think she should not have taken the cure. The mainstream audience weren't crapping themselves over it like people on here, for them it seemed a logical resolution to the character's story.

actually a lot of my friends found it very weird that they would promote someone changing who they are to make someone else happy. or whatever. and thats saying somehting, bc my friends hate when i talk xmen!

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

I didn't like the flying either. The only scene I thought looked cool was at Jean's house before she was going to go into tornado mode.

I agree with this. I wasn't all that impressed with Storm's flight sequences except for the one noted above--that was brilliantly done. The whole spinning thing I thought was creative. However, the other sequences (i.e. the horrific Danger Room "cradle" look) sucked. It was like she was sitting on an air cushion. Hated it.

Other than that I agree with what everyone else here has stated--the score was fantastic, and the entire showdown at Jean's home is probably my favorite scene.

 

[The Original Bamfer]

The majority of the flying bugged me as well. Every single scene where Storm flew and had the cape on, in fact. Why? Well, apart from the horrible wire work, her cape never moved like it would if she was really flying... it's the wind that allows her to fly, but it certainly didn't look like that was the case in the film.

 

[[A]]

kitty vs juggernaut.
i think that scene was well done!

I do too, actually. I'm not sure many people agree with us, though. I thought the way Kitty defeated Juggernaut was really smart.

I like it too. I like big destruction scenes like the little bit of Wolverine vs Juggernaut

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

The majority of the flying bugged me as well. Every single scene where Storm flew and had the cape on, in fact. Why? Well, apart from the horrible wire work, her cape never moved like it would if she was really flying... it's the wind that allows her to fly, but it certainly didn't look like that was the case in the film.

Yeah, I thought the same thing. When she came down from the Blackbird at Alcatraz her cape was filled with wind. But aside from that? Zilch. It was like she was flying just to fly. Half the time they didn't even have the sound of wind accompanying it. Worst of all, her HAIR didn't blow around whenever she'd rise skyward (for example at Jean Grey's neighborhood when she created the vortex).

Lamage.

 

[X-Maniac]

Bah, none of all that matters.

I've seen comicbook Storm depicted as flying silently (in the attack on the Hellfire Club in the Phoenix Saga, Storm glides silently and stealthily around the building).

Let's face it, the amount of wind needed to support a human being would mean a frickin hurricane going on. I've always thought she had to be using air pressure changes as well.

As for her hair, maybe she wore a strong hairspray to fix it in place.