Comics When the King Pin return in DareDevil #116

[USMC]

I'm not denying the fact that "how could BnB still happen", and I am still waiting for clarification as to "how"... but after the year we've had and the few bits of answers/explanations we've gotten so far, I'm more convinced that we'll get them within the next few months... possibly 6 tops... which is still ok within my 12 to 18 months of waiting it out that I told you about a few months back and you said that that was a reasonable amount of time.

In the meantime, I'm still digging the new direction, in spite of the few "bad" issues that have come out...

It is a reasonable amount of time. I'm more than willing to pick up Spidey again once things start making sense again. But I don't care for this direction at all, so I'm still on hold...

 

[Blader5489]

Of course Back in Black still happened, there was a picture of it in one of the DB issues (or it might have still been the Bugle then).

 

[kguillou]

Yea but the point is Back in Black HAD to have happened differently if it were to make sense within BND continuity.

 

[Blader5489]

It wouldn't have happened differently, people would just remember it differently.

 

[kguillou]

Hm, so maybe Kingpin still remembers gettin his ass kicked but he remembers it as Spiderman kicking his ass not Peter. But then that begs the question does Kingpin know why Spidey beat his ass? (i.e. the whole sniper-aunt may thing)

 

[JJJ's Ulcer]

Hm, so maybe Kingpin still remembers gettin his ass kicked but he remembers it as Spiderman kicking his ass not Peter. But then that begs the question does Kingpin know why Spidey beat his ass? (i.e. the whole sniper-aunt may thing)

Memory gaps. The events happened, but he can't place the face or the name. Perhaps Kingy remembers he ordered someone shot, but can't remember why or even remember Aunt May's name. Perhaps he's justified this memory loss with some fabricated explanation in his own mind. I think it's probably similar to how Norman Osborn approached the fact that big chunks of his memory and goblin-garbed lifestyle were a mystery to him during the time he had amnesia in the early Stan Lee days.

 

[shinlyle]

Memory gaps. The events happened, but he can't place the face or the name. Perhaps Kingy remembers he ordered someone shot, but can't remember why or even remember Aunt May's name. Perhaps he's justified this memory loss with some fabricated explanation in his own mind. I think it's probably similar to how Norman Osborn approached the fact that big chunks of his memory and goblin-garbed lifestyle were a mystery to him during the time he had amnesia in the early Stan Lee days.

You know, I hat to sound like a broken record, but it would have just been a whole hell of alot easier for everyone is they had just said that Back In Black Never happened. Seriously. Kingpin not remembering why Spidey grabbed him up by his fat rolls and threatened his life....of that it even happened?

They should have said that Mephisto prevented Aunt May from ever getting by making it so that everyone forgot Peter's secret identity before the Kingpin ever ordered the hit on May. Ta-da! No mess! Ugh...

Who am I kidding? I'm not going to buy it, anyway.

 

[mre]

Yeah the whole thing doesn't make any sense. This raises too many questions, because there are too many stories where Spider-Man's identity is central to the plot.
If these people were to just forget, somehow, that Spidey is Peter Parker, wouldn't someone start to wonder why? The most painful example of this is the symbiote. The black suit doesn't remember?
MJ doesn't remember?
I think there should have been some exceptions to who still knows.

Sorry to go off-topic.

 

[USMC]

It wouldn't have happened differently, people would just remember it differently.

Everyone who supports this bogus plot development keeps chanting this mantra, yet no one can explain exactly how they would remember it differently.

Why?

Because there is no explanation that would make logical sense, that's why!

Now drink your juice, Shelby!

 

[bryanss3]

If these people were to just forget, somehow, that Spidey is Peter Parker, wouldn't someone start to wonder why? The most painful example of this is the symbiote. The black suit doesn't remember?
MJ doesn't remember?
I think there should have been some exceptions to who still knows.

Sorry to go off-topic.

I agree some people should still know, that would make sense, it even would have made sense if just the general public didn't know its starting conflicts for no reason like the solicite for the upcoming New Avengers is says "how can the Avengers trust Spider-Man if he won't take his mask off? "

But about the Symbiote yeah that is really stupid, but it does egknowledge peter as its host, then finds Brock and says something like not the original. Thats kinda better then nothing.

I think we all agree that what happened is stupid except for a few people on here.