Which CBM Pair Will Grant the Highest Gross in 2017?

[ehh]

Also Sony is funding the movie and the people working on the film are getting paid, so I don't feel bad about a mega corporation not getting the box office profits. And they're getting the merchandising profits anyway, so they'll be fine.

 

[ehh]

Marvel is making Spider-Man great again, and Sony is going to pay for it.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

Spider-man has RDJ's Iron-Man, by far the biggest draw in the Superhero genre. And with Spidey's overwhelmingly positive response in Civil War, 900 is the floor, especially when you consider how big a draw Spidey is overseas.

Wonder Woman is sandwiched in between Pirates, WWZ2, and Mummy followed by Cars3. Superman was a bigger draw than WW, always has been.

Snyder league is not gonna beat BvS in the boxoffce, not after the reaction BvS got, not with Snyder at the helm.

But hey I was called an MCU fanboy when I said Civil War would destroy BvS, and we know how that turned out.

Yeah, I'd be very surprised if JL does better than BvS. It is coming off of a widely dislike predecessor, doesn't have a big hook like the first time Batman & Superman are together on screen, and has stiffer competition.

JL probably has a better shot at $600 million than $1 billion.

I forgot that RDJ was in Spider-Man though. That makes me even more confident in my vote.

 

[Erzengel]

A divisive BvS still made over $800M. I think even a decent JL could make over that. It's obvious they'll have more of an "actiony" trailer with most of the JL in their glory. They'll show Superman return because they have to and remember Transformers and Pirates still make money even with the law of diminishing quality.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

Keep in mind that a lot of that $800 million is people that hated BvS and won't go back for JL regardless of how good it is.

Aside from the expansion of the foreign market (which isn't applicable for JL since BvS just came out this past March), Transformers and POTC have been dropping for years. Both of them lost nearly $200 million domestically from Part 2 to Part 4.

 

[ehh]

Most of Batman v Superman's success is due to all of the hype and novelty of seeing Batman and Superman in the same movie together and have them fight.

I don't know how JLA will do, but I am doubting that it will make anywhere near $1 billion.

 

[kguillou]

Ehh. I dunno guys. I still dont think you can reach $870 million without lots of repeater viewers. I think JL will just scratch $1 billion. I'm putting money on it. BUT, The KEY factor to its success will be Wonder Woman. IF Wonder Woman is a hit, JL will make $1billion because you can bet your bottom dollar WB will put her front and center of the final marketing push for all the people who enjoyed her movie.

If WW isnt...then yeah, despite it's quality this'll probably be in the 800 million range again.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

JL probably has a better shot at $600 million than $1 billion.

I'll be generous and guess $700 million.
Still a mega drop.

 

[All-Father]

I'll be generous and guess $700 million.
Still a mega drop.

Yeah. I'd bet on these numbers too.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

I'll be generous and guess $700 million.
Still a mega drop.

Maybe. But to get to $1 billion it needs to gross another $130 million over what BvS did and that seems very unlikely given how many people hated BvS and how it had some of the worst holds ever (showing that it had a lack of repeat viewers). The bottom completely falling out seems more likely than finding another $130 million from somewhere. That's what I meant.

JL will be down from BvS. The question is how much.

 

[Zarex]

A BO increase for JL is possible if Wondy erases some of the negativity surrounding the DCEU and Gadot shines in the role. It would also help if Ragnarok is another disappointing Thor sequel and Snyder defies the odds and puts together a film that is embraced by fans and critics alike. But I would agree that $1B is going to be awfully difficult to reach.

 

[ehh]

I've met only one person who is in love with Batman v Superman. He also despises Marvel and claims that the critics were paid to give BVS negative reviews on RT. He said, "can you believe that piece of **** Guardians of the Galaxy has over 90%?!"

The rest of the people I know either outright hate BvS and some will say, "it wasn't as bad as I thought it would be, but it was bad."

They have a lot of work to do if they want DCEU films to start making $1B+

 

[kguillou]

I think $1 Billion is absolutely possible, but Wonder Woman will be absolutely integral to that happening. That plus fun, action packed trailers can get the movie there.

 

[ehh]

I think $1 Billion is absolutely possible, but Wonder Woman will be absolutely integral to that happening. That plus fun, action packed trailers can get the movie there.

The DCEU movies get people there too soon. Not enough foreplay.

 

[Darepool]

Maybe. But to get to $1 billion it needs to gross another $130 million over what BvS did and that seems very unlikely given how many people hated BvS and how it had some of the worst holds ever (showing that it had a lack of repeat viewers). The bottom completely falling out seems more likely than finding another $130 million from somewhere. That's what I meant.

JL will be down from BvS. The question is how much.

Inflation?

My 'safe' predictions:

GotG Vol: 2 - 1 billion (baseline)
SM: Homecoming - 750 million (baseline)
Thor: Ragnarok - 700 million (baseline)
Wonder Woman - 700 million (baseline)
JL- 850 million (baseline)

At this point I'd take the combo of Guardians with either Homecoming or Ragnarok to come out on top based on the least I believe we can expect (ie baseline), but of course it's still early days and reception is always the unknown variable.

 

[kguillou]

I was uncertain about Guardians reaching a billion but after all the "Baby Groot-ness" from the trailer, I am now convinced they've got the kid audience on lock, so yeah, a billion is happening for that movie.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

Inflation?

Not after one year.

 

[Zarex]

Vol 2 is the 2nd biggest teaser trailer ever in terms of views (behind BATB) and the biggest ever for Marvel Studios. And the teaser didn't even include Nebula, Yondu, Ego, Ayesha and Sly Stallone's character (Richard Ryder?). I would say a billion is in the bag.

 

[Darepool]

Biggest ever! Wow, that's impressive beating Civil War. I saw Baby Groot trending WW for quite a bit of time.

 

[Darepool]

Not after one year.

True enough.

A bit off-topic, but I wonder if Vol 2 could actually beat the upcoming Avengers films at the box office, it's audience appears to be the most diverse section of film fans.

 

[Chesterfield]

That's unfair, considering Marvel does almost all the work.
I'll vote for the pure MCU movies because of that.

It's not unfair. Marvel don't need spider-man; they simply want him just because. They want spidey in the MCU and they're willing to do all the heavy lifting on behalf of Sony for it to have happened. Furthermore, Sony are the ones paying for the movie anyway. Marvel will get their usual licence fee but they'll get an additional cut if and only the film reaches a specific financial milestone.
on the flipside, when spidey features in a dedicated MCU production like CW Sony get absolutely nothing.

As for answering the question of the thread, my vote easily goes to GoTg vol.2 and Spider-Man Homecoming. Anyone worrying about the adverse effects of TASM films are wasting their time. CW did a colossal job in damage control for spidey plus the inclusion of Stark/Iron Man in Homecoming brings in an obscene amount of benefits.

Both Homecoming and GoTg vol.2 will bring in circa $900million each. The same cannot be said about the rest. Ragnarok will do about $700 to 800million, WW will do about $600 million and JL will do about $700 to $800.

In any case for 2017 Marvel Studios' productions walk away the winners. Just being realistic.

 

[Chesterfield]

A divisive BvS still made over $800M. I think even a decent JL could make over that. It's obvious they'll have more of an "actiony" trailer with most of the JL in their glory. They'll show Superman return because they have to and remember Transformers and Pirates still make money even with the law of diminishing quality.

BvS had no competition for weeks! And it was during a time when people were off from school, uni, college and whatever; And even then the drop offs after the first weekend were embarassingly alarming.

You think JL coming off of the previous event movie (BvS) is going to do amazing numbers now? With the novelty factor of seeing supes, bats and WW gone the addition of the flash and Cyborg aren't going to make a huge difference in its favour not to mention this time it's going to have to deal with some monstrous competition.

 

[Chesterfield]

Ehh. I dunno guys. I still dont think you can reach $870 million without lots of repeater viewers. I think JL will just scratch $1 billion. I'm putting money on it. BUT, The KEY factor to its success will be Wonder Woman. IF Wonder Woman is a hit, JL will make $1billion because you can bet your bottom dollar WB will put her front and center of the final marketing push for all the people who enjoyed her movie.

If WW isnt...then yeah, despite it's quality this'll probably be in the 800 million range again.

Mate, you're dreaming. Even if WW is a hit JL isn't making a $Billion. I really can't wait for next year to come to see how things play out.

 

[Chesterfield]

I've met only one person who is in love with Batman v Superman. He also despises Marvel and claims that the critics were paid to give BVS negative reviews on RT. He said, "can you believe that piece of **** Guardians of the Galaxy has over 90%?!"

That's to be expected. You get people who are delusional and in denial of the reality of situations. It's almost comical if it wasn't so desperate.

 

[Erzengel]

BvS had no competition for weeks! And it was during a time when people were off from school, uni, college and whatever; And even then the drop offs after the first weekend were embarassingly alarming.

You think JL coming off of the previous event movie (BvS) is going to do amazing numbers now? With the novelty factor of seeing supes, bats and WW gone the addition of the flash and Cyborg aren't going to make a huge difference in its favour not to mention this time it's going to have to deal with some monstrous competition.

It's still Justice League. Even though I feel that the DCEU is in worse position after BvS than after MOS, I still wouldn't be necessarily surprised if even a crappy JL does well because it's still Batman, Superman and WW. I felt kinda that way late last year into this year when I said that BvS "should" make $1B.

Let me clarify, because of the BvS reception I wouldn't be surprised if JL didn't do $1B especially if it's the same quality.

However, if it does I wouldn't be surprised because we are still talking about the 1, 2 and 3 most popular CB characters of all time.