Which "Trinity" member had the better anniversary issue?

[The Batman]

June saw Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman each enter milestone issues. Out of Superman 700, Batman 700, and Wonder Woman 600, which one was your favorite?

 

[kguillou]

From the general consensus it seems like all three were disappointing, BUT i suppose Batman's was the best one solely because of Frank Quitely's 8-page segment.

 

[yenaled]

I liked Batman #700, it actually felt like an anniversary issue as opposed to just a bigger sized issue.

 

[hippie_hunter]

I think that DC kinda dropped the ball with their anniversary issues. When I look at an anniversary issue, I expect it to be on par with what Marvel has been doing with Thor #600, the Amazing Spider-Man #600, and Daredevil #600.

Superman #700 fulfilled my need of putting closure to the New Krypton saga while building up the next era and had a cool extra story by Dan Jurgens, but I wanted more out of it like the cover gallery that Marvel does with their anniversary issues or some awesome art by various artists with their takes on Superman like we've seen in Wonder Woman #600.

Also the covers should have been better. Gary Frank had the right idea, but it's too small. I think that DC should have done wrap around covers with Gary Frank on Superman, Dustin Nguyen on Batman, and Phil Jimenez on Wonder Woman. The definitive artists for those characters of this generation IMO.

That said, Superman #700 was the best. It felt more like an anniversary issue as opposed to Batman and Wonder Woman which felt more like the recent 80-Page Giants that DC has been putting out recently but with more significance.

 

[kguillou]

I've always felt that big centennial issues should be these big, huge stories that stand on their own and could be read over and over again while also setting up future stories. Thor had his big climactic battle with Bor which ended up setting up his new status quo. Spider-man had his big (sort of) showdown with the new doctor octopus AND the marriage of Aunt May and JJsr. And Daredevil had DD square off against the Owl, Kingpin and Lady bulleseye while accepting his destiny as leader of the Hand. Captain America #600 was a huge letdown as it was just merely a series of different segments that didn't really go anywhere and feels alot like what DC has been doing with their centennials. They feel more like epilogues that set up future stories rather than big mini-events like they should be. Thats just my opinion tho.

 

[BrianWilly]

For me the order went Batman, then Wonder Woman, then Superman. As much as I feel incredibly iffy with the new Wonder Woman SuperBatZorro, at the least she didn't cause someone to die of cancer.

 

[hippie_hunter]

That wasn't the point of that scene.

 

[MMMMM...Pancakes]

The god-damn Batman #700, I enjoyed all the stories in it and the gallery.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

That wasn't the point of that scene.

There was no point to that scene. It was stupid and JMS should've known better than to use that ******ed straw man argument for casting Superman as less than heroic. If it'd been literally anything other than cancer or some other disease, it would've made 100 times more sense. Have the woman's husband fall out of a plane or off a building or get murdered by Metallo or something. As it stands, it implies that Superman should cure everyone who has cancer, which makes no sense.

 

[Drz]

Ofcourse it doesn't make sense. She was sad and whiny. JMS knew this, the reporters knew this, SUPERMAN knew this... But like Batman, Superman is guilt driven at times, especially after all that happened.

Now i'm gonna call it a tie with Wonder Woman and Batman for me. Both had good stuff, but i just liked Wonder Woman more, even tho the ending was more of a 4.99$ commercial for JMS' run, wheres Morrison's Batman story was pretty much "THERE WILL ALWAYS BE A BATMAN" with tons of references to past writing and Morrison's own.

 

[hippie_hunter]

There was no point to that scene. It was stupid and JMS should've known better than to use that ******ed straw man argument for casting Superman as less than heroic. If it'd been literally anything other than cancer or some other disease, it would've made 100 times more sense. Have the woman's husband fall out of a plane or off a building or get murdered by Metallo or something. As it stands, it implies that Superman should cure everyone who has cancer, which makes no sense.

Except you completely miss the point of that scene at all. It wasn't to portray Superman as less heroic. And it wasn't to show Superman as guilt driven either like Drz is saying.

They specifically portrayed that woman as someone who took Superman for granted and had no right to be angry at him, especially since her husband died from cancer, something that Superman has no control over. The comic even specifically had characters saying that the woman was a nutjob.

The fact is that a lot of people see Superman as a God. And just like how people get angry at God for not being able to stop things that are out of His control such as well.....cancer, this woman was the same. But directed her anger towards Superman.

Now why was Superman upset? Not because he was guilt ridden. He might feel some guilt over New Krypton being destroyed and being away from Earth for a year, but he'd be an idiot if he felt guilty over the death of this woman's husband. He's upset because he cares. He cares for everyone.....like Jesus . The fact that Superman actually cares for this crazy woman's loss, even though he doesn't have to, makes him more heroic.

And it's this kind of thing that makes Superman want to be grounded because with Superman up in the air, he's looking down at them and the people are looking up. Just like the relationship between God and man. Superman being on the ground symbolizes people connecting with the man within Superman and Superman reconnecting with the people after being away for a year.

 

[Kurosawa]

Batman, not even close. Morrison >>> JMS. I liked the Jurgens story from Superman, though. But even it was a World's Finest story really.

 

[Charlie Boy]

I don't read Wonder Woman, so I suppose I enjoyed Batman more than Superman 700. Batman 700 actually felt like an anniversary issue, celebrating the hero as well as the history of the character. Superman 700 felt like an epilogue to WoS and prologue to Grounded which is cool or whatever, just wasn't what I wanted from an anniversary issue.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Except you completely miss the point of that scene at all. It wasn't to portray Superman as less heroic. And it wasn't to show Superman as guilt driven either like Drz is saying.

They specifically portrayed that woman as someone who took Superman for granted and had no right to be angry at him, especially since her husband died from cancer, something that Superman has no control over. The comic even specifically had characters saying that the woman was a nutjob.

The fact is that a lot of people see Superman as a God. And just like how people get angry at God for not being able to stop things that are out of His control such as well.....cancer, this woman was the same. But directed her anger towards Superman.

Now why was Superman upset? Not because he was guilt ridden. He might feel some guilt over New Krypton being destroyed and being away from Earth for a year, but he'd be an idiot if he felt guilty over the death of this woman's husband. He's upset because he cares. He cares for everyone.....like Jesus . The fact that Superman actually cares for this crazy woman's loss, even though he doesn't have to, makes him more heroic.

And it's this kind of thing that makes Superman want to be grounded because with Superman up in the air, he's looking down at them and the people are looking up. Just like the relationship between God and man. Superman being on the ground symbolizes people connecting with the man within Superman and Superman reconnecting with the people after being away for a year.

And it's that whole "reconnection" idea that falls flat for me. Superman doesn't need to reconnect with anything. Brubaker's quote about America needing to find Captain America rather than Cap trying to find America applies just as well to Superman. He already represents the better part of human nature. He doesn't need to walk among us to appreciate us, and anyone who thinks of him as a god who's responsible for every little thing in their lives is a moron who doesn't deserve the time of day from him. It makes sense that he'd care and try to reach out to them anyway because you're right, part of what makes Superman such a phenomenal hero is that he does care, even when he shouldn't; but it's not a story I particularly want to read.

 

[hippie_hunter]

And it's that whole "reconnection" idea that falls flat for me. Superman doesn't need to reconnect with anything. Brubaker's quote about America needing to find Captain America rather than Cap trying to find America applies just as well to Superman. He already represents the better part of human nature. He doesn't need to walk among us to appreciate us, and anyone who thinks of him as a god who's responsible for every little thing in their lives is a moron who doesn't deserve the time of day from him. It makes sense that he'd care and try to reach out to them anyway because you're right, part of what makes Superman such a phenomenal hero is that he does care, even when he shouldn't; but it's not a story I particularly want to read.

But it works both ways.

You have the people who are taking Superman for granted who need to connect with the man in Superman and see that he isn't a god. That he isn't someone that should be taken for granted. That one day, he could just end up going away again, and maybe not even come back. Just like any other man because in the end, Superman is not God.

And the obvious, Superman has been gone for a year to live on a world with a completely different culture and served under their military. People are going to be wary of him. People, not just in Metropolis, need to see him. Superman does need to take some time to reconnect with these people, just as much as the people need to reconnect with him. This isn't Superman walking around to appreciate humanity. He already does that. He isn't trying to get back in touch with humanity. He never lost that. This is Superman, as you said, reaching out to them. Reconnecting with them. Re-establishing himself and his relationship with them. And when you have people taking Superman for granted and Superman being gone for such a long time, reconnecting has to happen.

This would be a perfect story for a six issue arc at most. But at 12 issues, I fear that it will drag out quite a bit. Especially since Superman has been gone for a year, he's still leaving Metropolis behind. And they're the people that need him the most.

 

[Cain]

I liked Batman #700, it actually felt like an anniversary issue as opposed to just a bigger sized issue.

Funny that's how I feel about Wonder Woman #600

 

[WolfCypher]

Superman, though Batman 700 gets props for putting Batman Beyond into DC comic book continuity.

 

[The Caped Knight]

Batman hands down followed by Superman and then Wonder Woman .