Homecoming Which villain should NOT appear in the next series?

[Ultron-5]

Which of the villains we've already seen in past movies should not appear in the next series of Spidey films?

 

[spiderman2]

I went with green goblin. While he is one of the best sm villains I think they have used him to much and yes he has been done right. He was done right in sm 1. The mask was good unlike people say and his charaterisitcs where perfect.

 

[OriginalMiles]

Venom.

 

[spiderman2]

Oh come on man venom is spider man's best villain and he was only in sm 3 for like 10 minutes lol. He is the most needed to be in a sm movie.

 

[OriginalMiles]

Green Goblin is Spider-Man's best villain.

Venom is just... meh.

 

[spiderman2]

Green Goblin is Spider-Man's best villain.

Venom is just... meh.

Goblin is like my second favorite and while I would love to see him again if they where to go with the green and purple him being in basicly ever movie plot some what out side of asm1 I fell like he has been over used if they use him again that soon.

 

[Stormz96]

Venom I suppose, he's the least interesting out of what's up there (and seeing the same villains from the last franchise doesn't bother me)

I do want to see Agent Venom, maybe as a spinoff film or tv series

 

[ironwez20]

Venom is going to appear regardless. Like it or not he's a fan favorite and widely popular even more so than goblin himself and what's this about him not being interesting? Venom pushed spidey to the brink of paranoia when he stalked him. If fine right he'd make a great villian. Besides he was in the last film for 10 min and wasn't given a justice. Seeing how marvel is expanding into outer space the symbiote would be easier to explian.

 

[harryoscop]

I want all of those villains to appear in the new series.

 

[Lantern Venom]

Doc Ock is the most difficult to do properly, and I'm not sure anyone can equal or surpass Molina. Plus, we've now had 5 Spidey films that center around a villain with a failed/reckless science experiment in his origin. Let the next baddie come from a different place than that.

 

[JOE]

I'm down for the goblin, but only if Norman is behind the mask. Create the illusion of Harry, but Norman is the one true goblin IMO.

 

[The Joker]

Venom. One of the most overrated shallow one dimensional villains ever. Keep him and all symbiote related characters out of this franchise.

 

[spider-neil]

I would have agreed with Venom being a crap villain until I read the Flash Thompson version which is pretty freaking good. If you hate Venom I urge you to seek the series out, it's excellent.

With regards to returning to villains we have all already seen, I would have said no but that was until I saw Ledger after seeing a great rendition by Nicholson.

 

[CaptainWagner]

Green Goblin is Spider-Man's best villain.

Venom is just... meh.

No, Doc Ock is Spidey's best villain! All that Goblin punk ever did was kill Gwen Stacy!





Anyway, I think that Venom definatly needs to appear, not only to finally do the story right, but so we can get Agent Venom further down the road. And as much as Molina is loved for his portrayal of Ock, any new Spider-man franchise needs him.

 

[HarryOsborn]

I went with green goblin. While he is one of the best sm villains I think they have used him to much and yes he has been done right. He was done right in sm 1. The mask was good unlike people say and his charaterisitcs where perfect.

It's not that the mask was good, it's just that if people are willing to accept full body spandex, they'll accept that too. However as Days of Future Past proved with Quicksilver, it doesn't matter how a character looks to be done right.

 

[HarryOsborn]

My best advice I could give Marvel is not to listen to the fans. Sony did with the past 3 films and the results have been terrible to meh. Iron Man 3 they certainly didn't listen to fans and lets be honest, that worked out very well for them regardless on your feelings on Mandarin twist.

 

[allthingsuper]

I say stay away from Rhino, Sandman, Lizard, and Electro, at least for the first few movies. We already saw them, and they're not internal to the mythos like Osborn(s) and Octavius are. There are other villains I want to see, like mystery, Mysterio, Shocker, and Mysterio. Venom is hot or cold for me. I've seen him done well on some stories, like Venom Dark Origin and ASM 300, but in other stories, he's just another monster who wants t kill Spider-Man. Oh, Kraven would be cool too. Maybe Vulture as well.

 

[Spider-Gnome]

In my opinion, you can NOT take Green Goblin (Norman Osborn), Doc Ock, or Venom off the table for a reboot. In fact, NO ONE from Spidey's rogue gallery should be off limits. His rogue gallery is arguably second only to Batman's. With the exception of Loki, MCU could seriously benefit from the influx of villains.

 

[PeterBenParker]

I want all of those villains to appear in the new series.

I second this, but I'd have villains we hadn't seen yet at the front of the line. Mysterio, Kraven, Vulture, Kingpin, etc.

 

[Stormz96]

Yea, there's no reason why one has to be excluded. If a majority of people don't find one character interesting, maybe marvel can put an interesting twist on it.

 

[PeterBenParker]

Yea, there's no reason why one has to be excluded. If a majority of people don't find one character interesting, maybe marvel can put an interesting twist on it.

Exactly.

The MARVEL hype is insane, and that alone is enough reason to make people have a second opinion on something.

"Oh, you didn't like how Electro was used in TASM2? Wait until you see what MARVEL does!"

This is the same studio that gave us Guardians of the Galaxy and made it:
1) Great.
2) Believable.

A talking tree and Raccoon on paper sounds dumb in some scenarios, yes, but it all boils down to direction and writing.

So glad I own it on Blu-ray.

 

[Stormz96]

Exactly.

The MARVEL hype is insane, and that alone is enough reason to make people have a second opinion on something.

"Oh, you didn't like how Electro was used in TASM2? Wait until you see what MARVEL does!"

This is the same studio that gave us Guardians of the Galaxy and made it:
1) Great.
2) Believable.

A talking tree and Raccoon on paper sounds dumb in some scenarios, yes, but it all boils down to direction and writing.

So glad I own it on Blu-ray.

Exactly!

I'm sure marvel could find a way to make venom more interesting somewhere down the road. Heck, maybe they can introduce the symbiote planet in a Guardians film or something!

(Honestly, I think the key to using venom is to make him more of a side character when first introduced, not the master planner. Have him become seduced by the venom as part of another villain's manipulation)

 

[The Infernal]

Harry Goblin. We saw it play out in SM3 (and the build up in previous movies). TASM2's take on Harry Goblin was just stupid and a needless change from Norman Osborn that added nothing. I don't see much point in revisiting Harry Goblin as a villain, especially when you still have many more of Spider-man's classic villains to cover.

I'm all for Harry appearing, I think he's an essential member of the supporting cast, but the villain turn just isn't that interesting at this point.

I'd sooner see Electro and Venom revisited. Neither were well served by their debute cinema appearances, I still feel like we should see good adaptations of these characters. Though I'm not sure I'd necessarily revisit their characters first over the chance to adapt other classic Spidey villains for the next movie or two.

 

[PeterBenParker]

Exactly!

I'm sure marvel could find a way to make venom more interesting somewhere down the road. Heck, maybe they can introduce the symbiote planet in a Guardians film or something!

(Honestly, I think the key to using venom is to make him more of a side character when first introduced, not the master planner. Have him become seduced by the venom as part of another villain's manipulation)

My big thing is that Venom is such a major villain (anti-hero as well), so if they would want to use him, it would have to be done carefully and patiently.

Introduce Eddie Brock early on, develop him a little bit in each film, give him a major story when you finally have Venom planned (Sin-Eater, like someone suggested in one of the other threads), and then pull the trigger on him as the main and ONLY villain in a Spider-Man movie.

Gobby, Ock, and Venom are the three big villains that can carry a film on their own, IMO.

Every other villain could be used together to make up one big villain (look at the Enforcers from The Spectacular Spider-Man cartoon as an example).

 

[degraves93]

Venom's the most overrated of the Spidey villains IMO, but I'm open to seeing him done right. We've already seen Harry take up the mantle of the Green Goblin twice now. I want Norman as the Goblin for more than one movie.