Iron Man 2 Whiplash - How to make whips seem more powerful than Iron man?

[Dog Brother #1]

I remember a few years ago before anybody saw any footage of the first IM everyone was upset that the director of Elf and an actor who'd been out of the spotlight for years (other than his jail/rehab adventures) were making their beloved superhero movie. Then all were silenced. If Favs believes in Mickey, then I believe too. That being said, if somehow the movie is awful, then heads will roll! hehehe.

 

[dark_b]

i thought people liked RDJ for tony since he looks like him and is an good actor.

 

[Dog Brother #1]

Sure it's easy to say that now but in the begining when word first got out that he was cast, there was many people questioning his abilities, just as they are doing with Roarke. I'm just saying I have faith that Mickey will do a good job.

 

[bossman550]

i hope so.

 

[kedrell]

i thought people liked RDJ for tony since he looks like him and is an good actor.

Oh, how soon we forget. 3 years ago there was plenty of sniping about it. He's unreliable, he'll fall off the wagon and leave us high and dry, he's too short, he's too old, etc. Early on I was a Caviezel-booster, but when RDJ was cast I cut him all the slack I could and he exceeded almost everyone's expectations, including mine.

 

[Shivsguy616]

Oh, how soon we forget. 3 years ago there was plenty of sniping about it. He's unreliable, he'll fall off the wagon and leave us high and dry, he's too short, he's too old, etc. Early on I was a Caviezel-booster, but when RDJ was cast I cut him all the slack I could and he exceeded almost everyone's expectations, including mine.

I'm young and had never heard of the guy before, so I just thought, yeah, looks bang on, hope he can act.

 

[bossman550]

i hope mickey cam pulll it off

 

[tryp09]

i hope mickey cam pulll it off

He's got the odds behind him. He's a seasoned actor, no one really has any expectations going into this movie about the character "whiplash", as he's not a super major player in the Iron Man universe, plus he's shown that he can be a comic badass. Sin City anyone?

 

[bossman550]

ur right

 

[topdog1]

One thing that popped to mind when looking at the first photo of Whiplash is that he's awfully exposed in that particular incarnation. As much as I loved Spider-Man 2, I never understood how a scientist could take a punch from someone with the proportionate strength of a spider just because he now has metal arms graphed to his spine. I hope they don't have Whiplash trading shots with Iron Man while in that photo get up.

 

[JAK®]

One thing that popped to mind when looking at the first photo of Whiplash is that he's awfully exposed in that particular incarnation. As much as I loved Spider-Man 2, I never understood how a scientist could take a punch from someone with the proportionate strength of a spider just because he now has metal arms graphed to his spine. I hope they don't have Whiplash trading shots with Iron Man while in that photo get up.

I don't think this will happen. A normal man being punched by a guy in a spandex suit, regardless of superpowers, is more acceptable than a normal man being punched by a guy in a mechanical suit of armour. In a visual sense.

 

[Octoberist]

I never really had a problem with Doc Ock getting punched by Spider-Man in Spidey 2.

 

[Nathan]

I didn't either. Not initially at least. Then I started thinking, this is the guy being able to push ten tons, he should be able to beat him up with his pinky.

I hope they do it better with Whipslash and don't let Iron Man get close to him.

 

[AnorexicBatman]

Whiplash? That looks more like S/M BONDAGE MAN!

But seriously. It's very interesting. Rather crude and "Road Warrior" esque
I'm sure Justin Hammer later turns him into CRIMSON DYNAMO...

 

[Stripesy Strip]

I didn't either. Not initially at least. Then I started thinking, this is the guy being able to push ten tons, he should be able to beat him up with his pinky.

I hope they do it better with Whipslash and don't let Iron Man get close to him.

In Spidey 2, I figured that Spider-Man wasn't as strong as the comic. In the comic they say he's as strong as a spider would be if they were human size(wich is lifting a bus) but they never said that in the film. He has super-powers but his strength was only accentuated when he stopped the subway train but this was a lot due to his webbings' resistance. Also you have to figure that Dock Ock must have been augmented too via the nano-tech: a normal man wouldn't be able to withstand having these large metal arms fused to his body, let alone lifting things with them. His body would shatter in million pieces the moment his metal arms would lift him up.

 

[tryp09]

One thing that popped to mind when looking at the first photo of Whiplash is that he's awfully exposed in that particular incarnation. As much as I loved Spider-Man 2, I never understood how a scientist could take a punch from someone with the proportionate strength of a spider just because he now has metal arms graphed to his spine. I hope they don't have Whiplash trading shots with Iron Man while in that photo get up.

Astute observation. Now that you mention it, I agree with you completely. I don't believe nanites are the answer either as they never mentioned anything like that. Doc-Ock seems to be all offense and no defense. But the comics are a lot like that also... Cyclops and other mutants that have offensive powers but don't seem to have superhuman durability have taken some really hard shots (should be fatal) but they live through them. It's a way to be dramatic without killing off your characters I guess.


My issue is that Iron-man has shown that he can dispatch regular humans without lifting a finger. Unless you have defense against that, you have no business fighting him.

 

[xforce]

Titanium whips wielded by an partial exoskeleton, powered and electrified by an ARC-reactor should mess up Tony's armour and its sophisicated eletronics quite a bit, especially if IM hasn't encountered a similar threat before and is taken by surprise.

But as noted, unless he's got some kind of energy shield (and I hope they don't go there), his defence is nearly nil. I'm curious how they will handle this issue.

I love the contrast between the Mad Max styled Whiplash and polished IM.
It will look good on screen and Rouke will give it all the badassness it needs.

/me goes to rewatch Angel Heart.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Whiplash? That looks more like S/M BONDAGE MAN!

But seriously. It's very interesting. Rather crude and "Road Warrior" esque
I'm sure Justin Hammer later turns him into CRIMSON DYNAMO...

That's what Whiplash looks like. A gimp. I think they have definitely taken some inspiration from the bondage get up from the comics.

I think he will be attacking civilian Tony in the Whiplash suit. No way would he take on Iron Man like that. But then he might get defeated by War Machine who rescues Tony. Then get the inevitable upgrade from Hammer.

 

[Dog Brother #1]

By the looks of the photo, he's at the Monte Carlo race track. So he's probably attacking Tony, not Iron Man in that particular scene. So, by taking on Tony without armor, he would be a formidable threat. And yes, I do want to see CD armor later in the finale. I'm actually looking forward to see armor vs armor mayhem. And based on certain statements given and the fact that Vanko has an arc reactor, I can see elements of Armor Wars in here, the villains using Stark tech for their evil.

 

[kedrell]

I think I'd like the final CD armor to show up early enough that we can get 2 good fights out of him and Iron Man. The Iron Monger fight already did the whole "show up at the last minute" thing.

 

[protocida]

Made it in Hero Factory:

It'd be cool.

 

[Shivsguy616]

One thing that popped to mind when looking at the first photo of Whiplash is that he's awfully exposed in that particular incarnation. As much as I loved Spider-Man 2, I never understood how a scientist could take a punch from someone with the proportionate strength of a spider just because he now has metal arms graphed to his spine. I hope they don't have Whiplash trading shots with Iron Man while in that photo get up.

Spider-man hassaid many times that he pulls his punches when fighting people of ordinary resistance. You know, so he doesn't explode their faces...

 

[tryp09]

Spider-man hassaid many times that he pulls his punches when fighting people of ordinary resistance. You know, so he doesn't explode their faces...

I want to see a battle in which no punches are pulled from either party and they are looking to end each other's lives. I hope those whips are super deadly! I was also hoping Whiplash had superhuman abilities. See how the old Mark III armor compares to a good ol' superhuman.

 

[RaZaTrOn]

Well whips are long range weapons so if Vanko is quick at moving or his whips are packing some serious juice to short out Iron Man i don't there is a problem. I think a lot of the first fight could be such a thing. Then Iron Man's first punch will level Vanko out.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

I think Crimson Whiplash (which he essentially is in the film) is supposed to be something of an armored Spider-Man. Extremely fast and agile. He would also use electro-magnetic pulses to disrupt Tony's targeting systems or even blind him.

Or a giant magnet

The whips could be the same ones used by Captain America's/X-Men's nemesis OMEGA RED. Both are Russian. Justin hammer wouldn't even need to upgrade the technology

Indeed, and that just kicks butt/is badass all around!