White Wolf ?

[Breogan]

T’Challa's adopted brother [Hunter] White Wolf.

Do you want to see him in the movie?
Yes, No?
As a main villain?
Or just minor secondary character throughout?
Or set up as ally in the first, only to emerge as the villain in the sequel?
Saved entirely for the sequel?
Should they set up somewhat a Thor / Loki dynamic/rivalry for throne and father's Odin/T’Chaka's attention.
If so who would you cast?

Noticed (from that other sites) many fan cast White Wolf as black? Some even confuse him with Kasper Cole.
Are we reading the same stories?

Hunter is a white kid, rescued from an airplane crash, a major part of the character is he's an adopted outsider, raised in Wakanda. Because of that feeling he has to go beyond to prove himself.

What say you?

 

[Chance Jackson]

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=488763 Generally we say yes

 

[Breogan]

Hadn't looked in the sequel thread.
I think I'd prefer it if he was already established in the first movie.
Although as an ally. If they could pull it off without revealing all, like his face until the end.

 

[Mike Murdock]

Since he's a part of Wakandan society, I'd prefer him to be in the first movie (without being a bad guy at all). I have no problem with them casting a black actor for the role either, but that's a separate question.

 

[TyBig]

If they use hunter he shouldn't be black. What made him different from someone like Shuri for example is that he was an outsider that grew up in Wakanda.

 

[Breogan]

As far as casting, some interesting notes by Priest on the character...
http://digitalpriest.com/legacy/comics/panther/start.html

Lastly, we needed a doppelganger. A Reverse Flash. We needed a mirror image of Panther. A man who is, himself, completely enigmatic, and whose powers of reason and deduction rivaled (if not surpassed) Panther's own. The White Wolf was, obviously, his name, but I stumbled around looking for a hook for this guy until I saw Clint Eastwood's film Midnight In The Garden of Good and Evil. Of the many, many whacked-out characters in that very odd film, there was Kevin Spacey, playing a kind of southern gentleman with a raft of secrets. I called Joe and said, "That's the guy. That's the white wolf— he's, literally, a white guy. He's Kevin Spacey."

Kevin Spacey's probably to old for the part now, and would probably want someone fit, to at least be believable as somewhat of a challenge to Boseman, and as a leader of the Hatut Zeraze.
Spacey has such a great presence though, what younger actor could channel the same?
Also seen him described similar to a Gable's Rhett Butler
Any suggestions?

 

[Dboi]

why should he be black?

nah cast someone white for the role.

 

[Mike Murdock]

why should he be black?

Because it doesn't make a difference either way?

Personally, it would be nice if not every character with "white" in their name was white and every character with "black" in their name was black. Well, I guess there's Black Tom, but anyone else?

 

[Dasher10]

I'd like to see him be a supporting character who'd be helpful for the first two films. I'd rather see it like this.

BP1: Killmonger and Man Ape stage coup against city-dwellers on behalf of tribal people. They're really manipulated by Klaw. Klaw also supplies an arms dealer named Moses Magnum as a middleman to keep his own hands clean. The whole film would be a mystery to unravel the conspiracy.

BP2: Enemy of the State. General Ross as the villain. Murrica invades Wakanda. (Hulk 2 will almost certainly be about Leader so no, Ross will probably not be Red Hulk.) It would be a modern warfare film. Also, Enemy of the State is the best BP story of all time.

BP3: White Wolf stages coup successfully. BP fights guerrilla war to get his country back. Jakarra is secondary antagonist/puppet of WW. Genre is that of a revenge story.

That's just how I'd do the first three films. I'd probably do stuff with Achebe, Cannibal, Solomon Prey and Zanda after them but they'd need to be saved until after the first few films.

 

[MbJ]

Because it doesn't make a difference either way?

Personally, it would be nice if not every character with "white" in their name was white and every character with "black" in their name was black. Well, I guess there's Black Tom, but anyone else?

Black Bolt, Blackout, Black Hand, Black Terror.

White Wolf could be black but I think you could make him any other race and the important parts of his character could stand. He could be Indian, East Asian, Arabic, Latino, all that really matters is that he's a foreigner and thus feels like he's unfairly mistreated and discriminated against by the Wakandans just because he wasn't born there.

 

[Harry Dresden]

David Oyelowo - White Wolf

 

[Breogan]

Some more pics.
Origin
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LOL! He totally looks like-

 

[Breogan]

David Oyelowo - White Wolf

If they use hunter he shouldn't be black. What made him different from someone like Shuri for example is that he was an outsider that grew up in Wakanda.

Yeah the outsider element and xenophobia of him by some, seems critical to the character and his formation. Not sure how some can just ignoring that?
A part of his narrative was he wasn't trusted because of his skin color, and for better and worse he had to earn it, push himself even harder to be accepted.
This isn't just a visual cue, but a narrative one. As he starts needing to prove his "loyalty" to a dangerous extreme.

Again from his creator...

We needed a mirror image of Panther. A man who is, himself, completely enigmatic, and whose powers of reason and deduction rivaled (if not surpassed) Panther's own...
...a kind of southern gentleman with a raft of secrets. I called Joe and said, "That's the guy. That's the white wolf— he's, literally, a white guy. He's Kevin Spacey."

As far as who could play a younger more fit version of Spacey's "enigmatic" charming-hustler character.
My choice would be Josh Holloway (Sawyer from Lost) Maybe it's the Georgia charm thing, but he had that enigmatic vibe, where you know he's hustling, but he's so damn likable you want to trust him, have him on your side , but man you know he'll stab you in the back right quick if need be.

And dress him up in the white suit.

 

[Webfoot Hero]

I say they need to at least introduce him in the first one and not just have a half-brother show up in the sequel with no personal connection. Making him an ally of BP to start would be my best hope and then have him be able to go in any number of reasonable directions based on what happens in the origin movie and what story the sequels call for.

 

[Wylie Times]

I'd prefer if they cast a white actor for Hunter, but I wouldn't be bothered if they with an actor of any race. The most important aspect is that he's viewed as an outsider. Wakandans view anyone who is an outsider with a degree of scorn regardless of their race. Ramonda was black, but she was shunned because she was born in South Africa.

I say they need to at least introduce him in the first one and not just have a half-brother show up in the sequel with no personal connection. Making him an ally of BP to start would be my best hope and then have him be able to go in any number of reasonable directions based on what happens in the origin movie and what story the sequels call for.

Even in the comics he just sort of popped up out of nowhere. The very Nature of the Hatute Zeraze makes it so that they're not to be talked about very much.

 

[Mike Murdock]

Yeah, but that happens in the comics because they just come up with the idea and throw it in there. In this medium, with the benefit of already having the legwork of the idea created, you can have the chance to lay the groundwork to do the idea right so it doesn't seem like it comes out of nowhere because you just thought of it.

 

[Breogan]

Yeah, but that happens in the comics because they just come up with the idea and throw it in there. In this medium, with the benefit of already having the legwork of the idea created, you can have the chance to lay the groundwork to do the idea right so it doesn't seem like it comes out of nowhere because you just thought of it.

Agree if they intend to use him as a "villain" at all(he's more complex), he shouldn't be the focus of the first movie, however some of the groundwork needs to be laid out, so it doesn't come out of nowhere.
So you're like - damn he was there the whole time!

The set-up needs to be there, but not the reveal.

Especially if they focus on T'Challa transition to power, White Wolf already needs to be in play.
Yet his back story narrative and reveal, is actually what needs to be held back.
At minimum the Hatute Zeraze could be introduced, with a fiercely loyal but still very enigmatic leader. Whose face you don't actually see, but who appears to completely back the transition.
That leaves you at minimum with the thought - Who is this guy, why does he carry so much weight? You sense the fierce loyalty of his men, the allegiance and that T'Challa trusts him as a brother, but there is a danger about him.
Leaving you with a strong presence of the character, you know he's going to be important, yet without actually revealing any of specific past and identity twist.

 

[CaptainWagner]

Hunter definitely needs to be white, and he shouldn't be an outright villain. But I think that he's a must have in the series, he's really a brilliant character that would bring a lot to the franchise. I'd pick Jude Law for the part.

 

[Chesterfield]

Scott Adkins!

 

[chamber-music]

Adkins is already in Doctor Strange.

 

[Chesterfield]

Lol really? Well damn.

 

[CaptainWagner]

Lol really? Well damn.

Yep. And let's be honest, it's not like he's much of an actor. And Hunter requires some top notch performing to pull off right.

 

[Tg11]

DB Woodside

 

[Stark Bauer]

Michael B Jordan makes sense in that he believes he should have been black panther. I buy that. How much of an issue race bending would be is another story. For me it's enough that he has an American accent. Really hope white wolf is in BP 1

 

[Mike Murdock]

I don't think it technically makes sense for White Wolf to have an American accent. It makes more sense for Killmonger to have one (he at least fled to America for awhile as a refugee).