Who can pull Robin and Nightwing out of the crap they've become?

[SouLeSS]

Chuck Dixon. Wher'de he go anyway?

 

[jaydawg]

I don't know, but its time someone brought him back. No one understood Nightwing better than him. And his run on Robin was pretty good too. Jesus, OYL may have fixed Batman, but its ****ed everyone else related to him.

 

[Mee]

Bats doesn't seem changed to me so far, (not that I mind) other than he's got Robin hanging around more. (which I do mind)

 

[Harlekin]

Well, luckily, we're gonna get a four-issue Marv Wolfman arc on Nightwing with a possibility for more. That should restore Nightwing to his glory, and he's the one that really understands Nightwing.

 

[Green Lantern]

I don't know, but its time someone brought him back. No one understood Nightwing better than him. And his run on Robin was pretty good too. Jesus, OYL may have fixed Batman, but its ****ed everyone else related to him.

Wolfman can save Nightwing. I disagree that Dixon understands him better than Marv. Marv: 1. Let the character of Dick Grayson develop as Robin in New Teen Titans; 2. Developed the persona of Nightwing through its creation until the end of his run on the New Titans title; 3. Wrote the best Dick Grayson story of all time with Batman: Year Three. Don't get me wrong, Dixon wrote a GREAT Nightwing, but NOONE compares with Wolfman.

Well, luckily, we're gonna get a four-issue Marv Wolfman arc on Nightwing with a possibility for more. That should restore Nightwing to his glory, and he's the one that really understands Nightwing.

I can't tell you how excited this has gotten me. The only thing that would make it slightly better is if instead of Jurgens (who does completely rock) it were Perez (who is god) doing the pencils

 

[Stealth_Prime]

Wolfman probably could, if he hasn't lost touch with his 'inner-Nightwing'. My worries is that he been so far unattached with Nightwing that he might not remember what made him work in the first place....plus remember, Marv relied on Dick's teammates (The Titans) to help mold Dick's character into place.

I'm worried, that while Marv was great when Dick was a leader of a team...
he might pale compared to what he was if Dick's a loner.

 

[Stealth_Prime]

Wolfman probably could, if he hasn't lost touch with his 'inner-Nightwing'. My worries is that he been so far unattached with Nightwing that he might not remember what made him work in the first place....plus remember, Marv relied on Dick's teammates (The Titans) to help mold Dick's character into place.

I'm worried, that while Marv was great when Dick was a leader of a team...
he might pale compared to what he was if Dick's a loner.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Bill Willingham could save Robin. His run was great and accomplished quite a lot in developing Tim.

 

[Darthphere]

Chuck Austen.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I will murder you.

 

[jaydawg]

Wasn't Willingham the one who wrote the arc where his father found out? That story read like total ass. If he was the one who wrote that.... keep him the hell away from Tim.

As for Wolfman, he may have created the Nightwing persona, but it was Dixon that truly defined him. Damn near every arc the man wrote is worthy of a film. As Stealth Prime pointed out, Wolfman relied on the Titans to tell us who Dick was. Dixon defined him as a solo hero trying to emerge out of Batman's shadow and dealt with his many relationships, not simply in the hero community, but his intimate ones as well. As far as I'm concerned, no one will ever understand Dick Grayson more than Chuck Dixon.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, Willingham wrote that story. What was wrong with it?

 

[Darthphere]

Willingham messed up one arc on Robin, so he sucks, unlike Dixon's flawless Nightwing.....

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I enjoyed everything I read from Willingham's run. It wasn't stellar, but it was a continuous stream of solid stories.

 

[Darthphere]

I was being sarcastic, I hate posting the rolleyes smiley.

 

[Stealth_Prime]

Hey guys, it could be worse....
it could be Devin Grayson writing NIghtwing again. Man its a shame, the only writer with the closest ties (Name wise) to Dick, seems to somehow miss touching that *essential* quality that only few writers have been able to do.
Maybe they should do what the director for Superman Returns did, forget all the big name actors, and get someone fresh unknown who doesn't have so much star power but is familiar with the mechanics of their trade. They did it with Chris Reeve and now Brandon Routh.
Perhaps that should be applied in this situation too??
What do you guys think?

 

[Stealth_Prime]

Hey guys, it could be worse....
it could be Devin Grayson writing NIghtwing again. Man its a shame, the only writer with the closest ties (Name wise) to Dick, seems to somehow miss touching that *essential* quality that only few writers have been able to do.
Maybe they should do what the director for Superman Returns did, forget all the big name actors, and get someone fresh unknown who doesn't have so much star power but is familiar with the mechanics of their trade. They did it with Chris Reeve and now Brandon Routh.
Perhaps that should be applied in this situation too??
What do you guys think?

 

[Darthphere]

Id rather have Devin writing again than Bruce Jones.

 

[kiuju2k]

Whedon... what i said it. Whedon. Do something!

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Whedon wouldn't work for Nightwing or Robin because neither of them is a teenaged/young adult woman.

 

[Darthphere]

Or part of his little fanboy universe.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I always wondered why Whedon's "voice" expressed itself strongest through the mouths of young women. I'm betting he leaves his wife and goes for the sex change later in life.

 

[Darthphere]

Hmmm, you assume its not the other way around.

 

[Not Jake]

SHUT UP YOU GUYS Whedon could write about Methuselah and it would be good. He has never done anything wrong in his life let alone write anything poor. One time he touched a blind women and she turned into a SEEING MAN. When Whedon eats Grape-Nuts he poops out Corn Pops and you know you gotta have those.

 

[Speedball]

SHUT UP YOU GUYS Whedon could write about Methuselah and it would be good. He has never done anything wrong in his life let alone write anything poor. One time he touched a blind women and she turned into a SEEING MAN. When Whedon eats Grape-Nuts he poops out Corn Pops and you know you gotta have those.

Whedon=God.