Who gave you the best Batman and Joker feel?

[Knight Rise]

In the end, both voice and physical, which set of actors really gave you a good Batman and Joker combination?

 

[Knight Rise]

I think for me it was Conroy and Hamill

 

[BatBat]

Conroy and Hamill. Hands down! Batman Arkham Asylum wouldn't have been near as good without those two voicing. And imo that's the best portrayal of Batman and Joker I've ever seen.

 

[Godzilla2014]

Christian Bale and Heath Ledger. They had the most interesting Batman/Joker relationship. Neither will kill the other, Batman because he doesn't want to give Joker the satisfaction, and Joker because Batman is too fun for him to deal with, ripped straight from The Killing Joke. Not to mention that Ledger's Joker wanted Batman to execute him because it would corrupt him.

 

[Knight Rise]

Christian Bale and Heath Ledger. They had the most interesting Batman/Joker relationship. Neither will kill the other, Batman because he doesn't want to give Joker the satisfaction, and Joker because Batman is too fun for him to deal with, ripped straight from The Killing Joke. Not to mention that Ledger's Joker wanted Batman to execute him because it would corrupt him.

Well, that was in Batman: Arkham Asylum. He gives Batman a wide open shot to kill him, but he knows already he wouldn't do it and laughs at him. He even says "I want you to catch me, just not yet!"

 

[Godzilla2014]

Well, that was in Batman: Arkham Asylum. He gives Batman a wide open shot to kill him, but he knows already he wouldn't do it and laughs at him. He even says "I want you to catch me, just not yet!"

But even in Batman: Arkham Asylum, I don't think he actually wanted Batman to go through with it, he just knew that Batman wouldn't.

 

[Knight Rise]

Oh I'm sure he did. Arkham Asylum is linked off of the comics which also includes "The Killing Joke", in which Joker doesn't understand why Batman isn't mad like him. He wants him to do it because he gets overjoyed when he sees Batman tempted to do it. So he just pushes it further and further hoping one day he'll snap

 

[Godzilla2014]

Oh I'm sure he did. Arkham Asylum is linked off of the comics which also includes "The Killing Joke", in which Joker doesn't understand why Batman isn't mad like him. He wants him to do it because he gets overjoyed when he sees Batman tempted to do it. So he just pushes it further and further hoping one day he'll snap

Ok. Heath Ledger's Joker was still more terrifying than Mark Hamill's Joker was. Plus, Ledger's Joker did more damage to Bale's Batman in The Dark Knight than Hamill's Joker did to Conroy's Batman in Batman: The Animated Series, The New Batman Adventures, Justice League, Justice League Unlimited TV series (and other affiliated media), and the Batman: Arkham Asylum video game. Only in Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker did he do comparable damage to Batman, and that was in flashback, and he died shortly afterward.

 

[The Joker]

Bale and Ledger and Conroy and Hamill.

Nicholson and Keaton only shared one scene together as Batman and Joker and it was Batman being all angry at him for killing his parents. That's not the nature of their relationship at all.

 

[Godzilla2014]

Bale and Ledger and Conroy and Hamill.

Nicholson and Keaton only shared one scene together as Batman and Joker and it was Batman being all angry at him for killing his parents. That's not the nature of their relationship at all.

Actually, I think they had at least two scenes together, but they only fought once as Batman and Joker. Other than that, I agree.

 

[Knight Rise]

Ok. Heath Ledger's Joker was still more terrifying than Mark Hamill's Joker was. Plus, Ledger's Joker did more damage to Bale's Batman in The Dark Knight than Hamill's Joker did to Conroy's Batman in Batman: The Animated Series, The New Batman Adventures, Justice League, Justice League Unlimited TV series (and other affiliated media), and the Batman: Arkham Asylum video game. Only in Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker did he do comparable damage to Batman, and that was in flashback, and he died shortly afterward.

In YOUR opinion. I personally would feel more terrified being attacked by Hamills Joker especially after Batman Beyond when he's choking Terry and telling him to laugh it up. Just gives me more of a chill than Heaths. It's also your opinion to say Ledger did more damage to Batman when that's completely incomparable since they are 2 different things. So you stick with what you think, I'll stick with mine. Kapeesh?

 

[Fudgie]

Ledger and Bale. Nailed it.

 

[Godzilla2014]

In YOUR opinion. I personally would feel more terrified being attacked by Hamills Joker especially after Batman Beyond when he's choking Terry and telling him to laugh it up. Just gives me more of a chill than Heaths. It's also your opinion to say Ledger did more damage to Batman when that's completely incomparable since they are 2 different things. So you stick with what you think, I'll stick with mine. Kapeesh?

First off, the whole point of the thread is based on opinions. Second, Ledger's Joker has already killed Rachel Dawes (and several other officials), corrupted Harvey Dent, set in motion a course of events that have cost Harvey Dent his life and Batman his reputation, and he's alive, so that may not be the end of it. Hamill's Joker tortured Tim Drake into giving up Batman's secrets, brainwashed him into being his sidekick, and then got killed by the little Joker Jr. That was most of the damage Hamill's Joker ever did to Conroy's Batman over a course of about 19 or 20 years at this point, while Ledger's Joker did all the aforementioned damage to Bale's Batman in a single film. Quite frankly, when Hamill's Joker dares Conroy's Batman to kill him in Arkham Asylum, there's not very much he has done to deserve it any more than other Batman villains. When Ledger's Joker dared Batman to kill him in The Dark Knight, a part of me really understood why he just might do it, why Bale's Batman might make an exception for him. I can't say that for Hamill's Joker in most of his appearances.

Ledger and Bale. Nailed it.

Agreed.

 

[Knight Rise]

You took one performance out of the many Hamill has done? Wow just.....wow

 

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

Tough to say. Out of the big three, I'd say Keaton and Nicholson are the weakest. Not a whole lot of interaction and it becomes a revenge story towards the end. Conroy and Hamill have a much larger history together as their characters; pretty much from point A to Z. Bale and Ledger had the best material out of all to work with.

For me, Bale is Batman and Ledger is the Joker. Their story feels more personal and at the same time, Batman doesn't lose focus that he is first and foremost a crime fighter, not a man with a vendetta. Bale and Ledger get the vote.

 

[Godzilla2014]

You took one performance out of the many Hamill has done? Wow just.....wow

Which one do you mean? The Arkham Asylum example you brought up or Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker? Do you agree with my analysis of Mark Hamill's Joker tempting Kevin Conroy's Batman to kill him in Batman: Arkham Asylum against Heath Ledger's Joker tempting Christian Bale's Batman to kill him in The Dark Knight?

Tough to say. Out of the big three, I'd say Keaton and Nicholson are the weakest. Not a whole lot of interaction and it becomes a revenge story towards the end. Conroy and Hamill have a much larger history together as their characters; pretty much from point A to Z. Bale and Ledger had the best material out of all to work with.

For me, Bale is Batman and Ledger is the Joker. Their story feels more personal and at the same time, Batman doesn't lose focus that he is first and foremost a crime fighter, not a man with a vendetta. Bale and Ledger get the vote.

Agreed.

 

[The Joker]

You took one performance out of the many Hamill has done? Wow just.....wow

What is your problem? Are you so insecure about anyone preferring anything better than BTAS?

Some people think Daniel Craig is a better Bond than all the others who's done more performances than him. If that's what they like best then fair play to them. There's probably going to be people who are going to like Andrew Garfield as Spider-Man more than Tobey's three performances in the movies. Again so what if they do?

Quality is subjective. Godzilla2014, take no notice of him.

 

[Knight Rise]

No he's just using bad examples. Chill the hell out

 

[Majik1387]

Keaton, Conroy, Hamill, and Ledger.

 

[Godzilla2014]

What is your problem? Are you so insecure about anyone preferring anything better than BTAS?

Some people think Daniel Craig is a better Bond than all the others who's done more performances than him. If that's what they like best then fair play to them. There's probably going to be people who are going to like Andrew Garfield as Spider-Man more than Tobey's three performances in the movies. Again so what if they do?

Quality is subjective. Godzilla2014, take no notice of him.

Thank you. B:TAS is great, but it's not the end all, be all. Christian Bale is Batman to me, and I can't imagine who will fill his boots when he's done. Some, like Marx, prefer Michael Keaton. Others will prefer Bale's successor. But will I, at the very least, give the next series a chance? You bet your ass I will.

No he's just using bad examples. Chill the hell out

What bad example?

 

[IndyJokerJones]

Bale/Ledger and Conroy/Hamill are tied for me. Conroy and Hamill just have such a long run together and there's just so many wonderful moments in their time together that is just not comparable to anything else, times that show these two know each other like nobody else. Bale and Ledger though are just two titans and Gotham is their playground. Ledger waits until the mobs controlling the city are desperate enough to give the power to him and then he throws it back in their faces like a pie, now that's a joke. Bale however doesn't even take revenge after Rachel dies and Harvey is maimed, he takes the high road and continues to thwart the Joker. You can really tell that they are "destined to do this forever" as opposite sides of the same coin.

 

[Godzilla2014]

Bale/Ledger and Conroy/Hamill are tied for me. Conroy and Hamill just have such a long run together and there's just so many wonderful moments in their time together that is just not comparable to anything else, times that show these two know each other like nobody else. Bale and Ledger though are just two titans and Gotham is their playground. Ledger waits until the mobs controlling the city are desperate enough to give the power to him and then he throws it back in their faces like a pie, now that's a joke. Bale however doesn't even take revenge after Rachel dies and Harvey is maimed, he takes the high road and continues to thwart the Joker. You can really tell that they are "destined to do this forever" as opposite sides of the same coin.

Exactly.

 

[EliteF50]

Conroy and Hamill.

People are seriously voting for Bale/Ledger? They barely had any chemistry/screen time together.

 

[EliteF50]

First off, the whole point of the thread is based on opinions. Second, Ledger's Joker has already killed Rachel Dawes (and several other officials), corrupted Harvey Dent, set in motion a course of events that have cost Harvey Dent his life and Batman his reputation, and he's alive, so that may not be the end of it. Hamill's Joker tortured Tim Drake into giving up Batman's secrets, brainwashed him into being his sidekick, and then got killed by the little Joker Jr. That was most of the damage Hamill's Joker ever did to Conroy's Batman over a course of about 19 or 20 years at this point, while Ledger's Joker did all the aforementioned damage to Bale's Batman in a single film. Quite frankly, when Hamill's Joker dares Conroy's Batman to kill him in Arkham Asylum, there's not very much he has done to deserve it any more than other Batman villains. When Ledger's Joker dared Batman to kill him in The Dark Knight, a part of me really understood why he just might do it, why Bale's Batman might make an exception for him. I can't say that for Hamill's Joker in most of his appearances.

You do realize BTAS/TNBA/BB/JLA/JL/etc was supposed to be for kids, right? Of course they couldn't as gruesome as TDK. You can get away with a lot more in live action than you can in animation.

That being said, Hamill's Joker is much more terrifying and a larger threat, imo.

 

[IndyJokerJones]

People are seriously voting for Bale/Ledger? They barely had any chemistry/screen time together.

What movie were you watching? Besides, if you look at all of the BtAS episodes exactly how much time do Batman and Joker spend on screen together per episode? Maybe 5 minutes, most of the episode is Joker doing stuff while Batman is trying to find him. Even in Mask of the Phantasm they aren't on screen together until the last 20 minutes.

As for chemistry
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohU16OiduUs