Why is this movie disliked?

[Ghostvirus]

I watched this movie the day, & I couldn't really figure out why people were hating on it so much. I mean in my opinion it captures the spirit of the FF. Much the way that Scooby Doo, & Garfield were captured. I mean I know that all these movies are not the best in the world, but they didn't stray far away from what made them apealing to begin with. Any thoughts?

 

[Cyrusbales]

Well F4 was just quite bad, poorly written, very cliche and boring. It is not very re-watchable and is very predictable, it's just a simple blockbuster. Then again, I never liked the F4 comics anyway, they were like the worst 'major' comic series, so i dunno.

 

[Ghostvirus]

Why are you even wasting your time in the area of the Hype then? Just curious.

 

[Fried Gold]

FF

LOL

Scooby Doo

LOL

Garfield

LOL

 

[Cyrusbales]

Why are you even wasting your time in the area of the Hype then? Just curious.

it was in the new post section, lol.

 

[Ghostvirus]

it was in the new post section, lol.

uhmm but you don't even like anything related to the Fantastic Four. Again I ask why even come in this area of the Hype?

 

[Cyrusbales]

uhmm but you don't even like anything related to the Fantastic Four. Again I ask why even come in this area of the Hype?

I'm not into F4, but i'm very into movies, and comic book movies, regarless of the comic book. But as a movie, this film did suck, very forgetable.

 

[KingOfDreams]

I didn't hate it. My gripe is that it could be so much better.

 

[webhead731]

I loved the movie but it had some problems that should have been fixed before the release.

 

[MaskedManJRK]

I didn't hate it. My gripe is that it could be so much better.

Yeah, I just watched it tonight and I have to agree--it could have been a crazy-cool sci-fi movie, but they just made a simple, formulmatic superhero movie.

 

[ClarkLuther55]

I watched this movie the day, & I couldn't really figure out why people were hating on it so much. I mean in my opinion it captures the spirit of the FF. Much the way that Scooby Doo, & Garfield were captured. I mean I know that all these movies are not the best in the world, but they didn't stray far away from what made them apealing to begin with. Any thoughts?

The movie simply has no vision or sense of importance. Fantastic Four could have been a great epic, with Doom making plots to conquer Earth, and out-of-this-world fantasy scifi. Instead, it was more like a mediocre sitcom. Instead of being an origin movie about the making of a hero (like Batman Begins or Spider-Man), it was a movie about a bunch of people who get powers and then goof around the whole time. For a supposed superhero action movie, it is surprisingly without action. There is one fight in the entire movie, and it was very brief and not exactly mind-blowing. Before that, the supposed heroes make a mere ONE rescue. That's it.

The biggest problem is the portrayal of Doom, who is basically Doom In Name Only (DINO). A character who is supposed to be powerful and majestic, Marvel's premiere supervillain, and the comic equivalent of Darth Vader was turned into some petty corporate jerk who got mutant powers. DINO was a disgrace. The scene where he gets ousted by his own corporate board was completely ripped off from Norman Osborn in Spider-Man. And besides a couple of his board members and the FF themselves, DINO threatened NOBODY. The character had no plot, ambitions, or power. He was simply mad at Mr. Fantastic for taking his girl, and tried to personally off the members of the FF. DINO looked like a low-level thug assassin, and not the monarch he is in the comics, when he picked up a missile launcher and tried to shoot Johnny himself (both DINO's and the FF's headquarters were within eye sight of each other ). DINO was less supervillain and more like the FF's mean next door neighbor. If his fight with the FF hadn't spilled out onto the streets, the world wouldn't have even KNOWN about him. And what was the point of having him get shipped off to Latveria at the end? Was that supposed to placate the fans? The character was already damaged goods by then. Why didn't they just do Doom right from the start?

FF isn't horrible in that you can watch it and be at least a little entertained, instead of squirming in your seat waiting for it to end. However, the movie is full of flaws, and it could have, and SHOULD have been a lot better. As it is, FF is completely forgettable sitcom fluff.

 

[Chris Wallace]

I still like it.

 

[juggster-rules]

I still like it.

same here

 

[Mister J]

The movie simply has no vision or sense of importance. Fantastic Four could have been a great epic, with Doom making plots to conquer Earth, and out-of-this-world fantasy scifi. Instead, it was more like a mediocre sitcom. Instead of being an origin movie about the making of a hero (like Batman Begins or Spider-Man), it was a movie about a bunch of people who get powers and then goof around the whole time. For a supposed superhero action movie, it is surprisingly without action. There is one fight in the entire movie, and it was very brief and not exactly mind-blowing. Before that, the supposed heroes make a mere ONE rescue. That's it.

The biggest problem is the portrayal of Doom, who is basically Doom In Name Only (DINO). A character who is supposed to be powerful and majestic, Marvel's premiere supervillain, and the comic equivalent of Darth Vader was turned into some petty corporate jerk who got mutant powers. DINO was a disgrace. The scene where he gets ousted by his own corporate board was completely ripped off from Norman Osborn in Spider-Man. And besides a couple of his board members and the FF themselves, DINO threatened NOBODY. The character had no plot, ambitions, or power. He was simply mad at Mr. Fantastic for taking his girl, and tried to personally off the members of the FF. DINO looked like a low-level thug assassin, and not the monarch he is in the comics, when he picked up a missile launcher and tried to shoot Johnny himself (both DINO's and the FF's headquarters were within eye sight of each other ). DINO was less supervillain and more like the FF's mean next door neighbor. If his fight with the FF hadn't spilled out onto the streets, the world wouldn't have even KNOWN about him. And what was the point of having him get shipped off to Latveria at the end? Was that supposed to placate the fans? The character was already damaged goods by then. Why didn't they just do Doom right from the start?

FF isn't horrible in that you can watch it and be at least a little entertained, instead of squirming in your seat waiting for it to end. However, the movie is full of flaws, and it could have, and SHOULD have been a lot better. As it is, FF is completely forgettable sitcom fluff.

This pretty much nailed it for me. There just wasn't anything special overall about the film. Individually, Johnny and Ben were good , Reed was kinda nondescript at times (but not bad) and Sue was awful. Additionally, the villain sucked, even ignoring a straight comparison to the comic. There was a lot of potential to make this movie kickass and it very 'meh'. I'm hoping for better things from the sequel.

 

[Lazlo Panaflex]

I liked it, but that's because I'm not an FF fan either so I didn't care the liberties taken to the characters.

While not exactly an epic movie like X-Men or Spider-Man it did manage to fill up 2 hours of enjoyment.

oh yeah I also liked the Captain America movie from the 90's.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

The movie simply has no vision or sense of importance. Fantastic Four could have been a great epic, with Doom making plots to conquer Earth, and out-of-this-world fantasy scifi. Instead, it was more like a mediocre sitcom. Instead of being an origin movie about the making of a hero (like Batman Begins or Spider-Man), it was a movie about a bunch of people who get powers and then goof around the whole time. For a supposed superhero action movie, it is surprisingly without action. There is one fight in the entire movie, and it was very brief and not exactly mind-blowing. Before that, the supposed heroes make a mere ONE rescue. That's it.

The biggest problem is the portrayal of Doom, who is basically Doom In Name Only (DINO). A character who is supposed to be powerful and majestic, Marvel's premiere supervillain, and the comic equivalent of Darth Vader was turned into some petty corporate jerk who got mutant powers. DINO was a disgrace. The scene where he gets ousted by his own corporate board was completely ripped off from Norman Osborn in Spider-Man. And besides a couple of his board members and the FF themselves, DINO threatened NOBODY. The character had no plot, ambitions, or power. He was simply mad at Mr. Fantastic for taking his girl, and tried to personally off the members of the FF. DINO looked like a low-level thug assassin, and not the monarch he is in the comics, when he picked up a missile launcher and tried to shoot Johnny himself (both DINO's and the FF's headquarters were within eye sight of each other ). DINO was less supervillain and more like the FF's mean next door neighbor. If his fight with the FF hadn't spilled out onto the streets, the world wouldn't have even KNOWN about him. And what was the point of having him get shipped off to Latveria at the end? Was that supposed to placate the fans? The character was already damaged goods by then. Why didn't they just do Doom right from the start?

FF isn't horrible in that you can watch it and be at least a little entertained, instead of squirming in your seat waiting for it to end. However, the movie is full of flaws, and it could have, and SHOULD have been a lot better. As it is, FF is completely forgettable sitcom fluff.

This pretty much sums up my feelings, and Doom was almost exactly like the Norman Osbourne character and that REALLy dissapointed me, as did the end fight. FF doesnt look like a $100 million dollar movie in the slightest.

 

[kainedamo]

In your opinion of course, I happened to have enjoyed the hell out of it, as did the majority of the people I saw it with.

That's funny. Everyone I know, including me, hates the film. Maybe you have to be over the age of 15 to see it's flaws, I dunno.

 

[supermarvelman]

Well F4 was just quite bad, poorly written, very cliche and boring. It is not very re-watchable and is very predictable, it's just a simple blockbuster. Then again, I never liked the F4 comics anyway, they were like the worst 'major' comic series, so i dunno.

Its very rewatchable, I watch it almost everytime its on HBO

 

[supermarvelman]

I didn't hate it. My gripe is that it could be so much better.

So could almost every other comic book movie ever, so....

 

[supermarvelman]

Yeah, I just watched it tonight and I have to agree--it could have been a crazy-cool sci-fi movie, but they just made a simple, formulmatic superhero movie.

It was the origin movie, slow down, comic movies have the potential to make numerous sequals.

 

[kainedamo]

So could almost every other comic book movie ever, so....

That's a fairly lame excuse.

Anyway, F4 had more wrong with it than what it had right. In fact, it had very little right at all. Very little. When you watch Spider-Man (or at least when I watch Spider-Man) you say to yourself "could be a bit less sappy, but otherwise it's mostly perfect". The only thing wrong with Superman Returns is the script. Acting and directing was good, but the characters never said very much. Big problem. But that's just the script.

With F4, it was everything. EVERYTHING. Bad script, bad acting, bad direction, bad use of the budget (where did all that money go??), bad use of the length of the movie (so much more story could have been developed, they DON'T have the excuse of "the movie wasn't long enough), characters severly underdeveloped (especially Doom. Doom should have been one of the strongest characters in an F4 movie done right, instead he was the weakest character). Etc, etc, etc, etc.

 

[Cyrusbales]

That's a fairly lame excuse.

Anyway, F4 had more wrong with it than what it had right. In fact, it had very little right at all. Very little. When you watch Spider-Man (or at least when I watch Spider-Man) you say to yourself "could be a bit less sappy, but otherwise it's mostly perfect". The only thing wrong with Superman Returns is the script. Acting and directing was good, but the characters never said very much. Big problem. But that's just the script.

With F4, it was everything. EVERYTHING. Bad script, bad acting, bad direction, bad use of the budget (where did all that money go??), bad use of the length of the movie (so much more story could have been developed, they DON'T have the excuse of "the movie wasn't long enough), characters severly underdeveloped (especially Doom. Doom should have been one of the strongest characters in an F4 movie done right, instead he was the weakest character). Etc, etc, etc, etc.

AGREED!

 

[Prognosticator]

That's a fairly lame excuse.

Anyway, F4 had more wrong with it than what it had right. In fact, it had very little right at all. Very little. When you watch Spider-Man (or at least when I watch Spider-Man) you say to yourself "could be a bit less sappy, but otherwise it's mostly perfect". The only thing wrong with Superman Returns is the script. Acting and directing was good, but the characters never said very much. Big problem. But that's just the script.

With F4, it was everything. EVERYTHING. Bad script, bad acting, bad direction, bad use of the budget (where did all that money go??), bad use of the length of the movie (so much more story could have been developed, they DON'T have the excuse of "the movie wasn't long enough), characters severly underdeveloped (especially Doom. Doom should have been one of the strongest characters in an F4 movie done right, instead he was the weakest character). Etc, etc, etc, etc.

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[ClarkLuther55]

It was the origin movie, slow down, comic movies have the potential to make numerous sequals.

Spider-Man and Batman Begins were origin movies. Being an origin movie is not an excuse for being a cookie cutter movie lacking in many areas. No, FF didn't have time for much (even fights, of which there was only ONE in the entire movie) because it spent most of its time having the characters goof around.

And I think it's the other way around. If the origin movie portrays the characters as goofy and petty in their actions, while crapping all over other characters, then it KILLS the potential for greatness in the sequels. We probably won't ever see Doom done right, unless it's more than a decade from now, and they decide to completely reboot the FF franchise.

 

[Mister J]

Exactly. People love to make excuses for this movie's shortcomings by pointing to it being an origin. That only goes so far as it has nothing to do with the mostly crap execution that we got. The First Family deserved way better than some generic, popcorn flick.

MovieDoom was horrible. It wasn't even really McMahon's fault. They gave him total crap to work with. Then Story pops off for the sequel saying "Oh, we'll have full Doom this time". Has he bothered to explain exactly what was the problem with giving that radical concept a try for the first movie? I'm hopeful, but highly skeptical about that messge coming to fruition. How do you go from a cardboard, bland, spoiled, petulant rich boy into something actually befitting one of the most dynamic villains in all of comicdom? I'd love to see it happen, but I won't be banking on it.