Why this movie failed...I felt nothing.

[DRob]

Sure a lot of us were disappointed, in fact I think some of us could probaly write a full thesis statement on all of the things that are wrong with this film but the truth is that we all knew this **** was going to happen, still none of us would've thought it would'nt meet even low expectations but all in all it's just a film, we'll live through it so we all can't complain.

"Unless you're lookin for an old bald guy, don't be lookin for love on the internet" - quote my father Robert Broome-R.I.P.

 

[britrogue]

When Cyclops died, I felt nothing because for the 5 minutes he was on-screen he acted like a whiny *****.

He acted like a whiny *****???? Ok, I'll remember to ask you how you're feeling when the love of your life dies.


When Xavier "died", I felt nothing because he acted like a morally questionable, know-it-all *******.

Morally questionable? We all know that Xavier put up mental barriers in Jean's mind. That happened in the comics as well. He did the same with Rogue to try and block out Ms. Marvel's psyche. And I think Phoenix did a good job of showing to the world why he made the decision he did......



When Angel saved his father, I felt nothing because the actor's main purpose was to provide eye candy for the ladies (it sure wasn't to provide character development) and, for all we know, his father was an unrepentent bigot to the end.

Well, I'm a lady and I was too busy looking at Pyro to even notice Ben Foster. Angel was there for the same reason that Beast was. To ensure that the original five all made it into the films. And his father was not an unrepentent bigot, he was mislead. He still loved his son, believing that he was suffering from a kind of disease, for which he wanted to save him.




When Magneto was defeated by the cure, I felt nothing because the X-Men acted like hypocrites in defeating him that way.

Ok, I'll give you that one. I wasn't too happy with that bit myself.



When Jean died, I felt nothing because she just stood around the whole time.

Did she? Remember, Magneto likened the end battle to a chessboard. Phoenix was basically the queen awaiting her right move.



When Rogue and Bobby got back together, I felt nothing because he was an insensitive pig and she sold-out her mutant heritage for an insensitive pig.

She didn't do it for Bobby. She did it for herself.




When Hank McCoy became Ambassador to the UN, I felt nothing because I was asking myself WTF just happened.

Was this supposed to be an emotional moment................?

 

[DRob]

I know Wolverine is susposed to be the "star" of the entire franchise but ****, enough is enough. X-Men is all about teamwork not just constantly putting one guy in the forefront. Besides it's called X-Men not X-Man(unless we're talking about Nate Grey)

 

[blurb23]

When Jean died, I felt nothing because she just stood around the whole time.

So very true.

 

[weatherwitch]

Uhhh...isn't there already an "If you didn't like X3 post here" thread?

 

[S7ilver]

The film failed because..you felt nothing?

 

[CapBeerCino]

Sure a lot of us were disappointed, in fact I think some of us could probaly write a full thesis statement on all of the things that are wrong with this film

True. In a way it's sad. Fans are giving this movie a whole lot more thought than any of his makers did.
That's why there is so much threads and posts about how bad it is.
Reasoning with the unreasonable world created in x-3 can take forever.

 

[CapBeerCino]

The film failed because..you felt nothing?

I think he meant "me" as an audience. Take a look at this thread - he isn't alone.

 

[Milkman95]

I agree for the most part, the film didn't deliver, it just delivered enough to please the fanboys, just like FF did. It could of and SHOULD OF been a lot better had Fox cared enough.

 

[PowersOfMind]

Uhhh...isn't there already an "If you didn't like X3 post here" thread?

Yeah. There is. But yet we have another in some form.

 

[*xmenfan*]

First of all, I'm not even commenting on the lack of respect this movie showed the book. I'm criticizing this film as a film...not as an adaptation.


Spoilers...for the two people in this forum who haven't seen it yet.












When Cyclops died, I felt nothing because for the 5 minutes he was on-screen he acted like a whiny *****.

When Xavier "died", I felt nothing because he acted like a morally questionable, know-it-all *******.

When Angel saved his father, I felt nothing because the actor's main purpose was to provide eye candy for the ladies (it sure wasn't to provide character development) and, for all we know, his father was an unrepentent bigot to the end.

When Magneto was defeated by the cure, I felt nothing because the X-Men acted like hypocrites in defeating him that way.

When Jean died, I felt nothing because she just stood around the whole time.

When Rogue and Bobby got back together, I felt nothing because he was an insensitive pig and she sold-out her mutant heritage for an insensitive pig.

When Hank McCoy became Ambassador to the UN, I felt nothing because I was asking myself WTF just happened.

Comments?

Questions?

Concerns?

When I saw it 2nd time i thought it was better but i agree with what you are saying.

 

[Sardaukar]

I think he meant "me" as an audience. Take a look at this thread - he isn't alone.

Precisely...everything's subjective. I often judge a movie by how it provokes me emotionally. That's what good films are supposed to do. For instance, I was cheering when Luke destroyed the Death Star, crying when Spock died, laughing whenever Bill Murray opened his mouth in Ghostbusters. For Marvel movies, I really felt the connection between Wolverine and Rogue in X1 and 2, was awestruck at the Peter/Doc Ock battles in Spidey 2, etc. X3 just didn't do anything for me on any level.

 

[cardslinger]

Im a fan and I wasnt dissapointed...people just need to realize that the x-men are people too meaning that they can die...it would be soo unreal if they didnt die......That's what one of my friends said before he saw X3 "can they die"-I said yes.... and he was happy because it makes it soo much more real..
Im not crying because I dont know if Pyro is alive or not... and he is my fav. character!!! the movies have never followed the comics from X-men 1 and X3 followed thecomics more than X1 and X2..there was, Storm flying, The Bridge scene, the Danger Room, Fastball Special, the cure, ..I mean come on at least it focused on the cure!! Urgggg some people(fans) make me soo upset when they complain and complain about this movie........... Does jean everdo anything but stand around...what do you expect her to do, first of all she was not herself and her "standing around" showed that!! 2nd....I hope you didnt expect Jean jump up and start hand fighting!!! Angels main purpose wa snot just too provide eye candy to the ladies....He was there to set up the development and emotions of the cure!!! You seemed to have missed the scene of young Angel..Excellent scene. Gahhhh!!! I have really tried to hold back since X3 came out but I couldnt...

Nice post.

When Cyclops died, I felt nothing because for the 5 minutes he was on-screen he acted like a whiny *****.

He acted like a whiny *****???? Ok, I'll remember to ask you how you're feeling when the love of your life dies.


When Xavier "died", I felt nothing because he acted like a morally questionable, know-it-all *******.

Morally questionable? We all know that Xavier put up mental barriers in Jean's mind. That happened in the comics as well. He did the same with Rogue to try and block out Ms. Marvel's psyche. And I think Phoenix did a good job of showing to the world why he made the decision he did......



When Angel saved his father, I felt nothing because the actor's main purpose was to provide eye candy for the ladies (it sure wasn't to provide character development) and, for all we know, his father was an unrepentent bigot to the end.

Well, I'm a lady and I was too busy looking at Pyro to even notice Ben Foster. Angel was there for the same reason that Beast was. To ensure that the original five all made it into the films. And his father was not an unrepentent bigot, he was mislead. He still loved his son, believing that he was suffering from a kind of disease, for which he wanted to save him.




When Magneto was defeated by the cure, I felt nothing because the X-Men acted like hypocrites in defeating him that way.

Ok, I'll give you that one. I wasn't too happy with that bit myself.



When Jean died, I felt nothing because she just stood around the whole time.

Did she? Remember, Magneto likened the end battle to a chessboard. Phoenix was basically the queen awaiting her right move.



When Rogue and Bobby got back together, I felt nothing because he was an insensitive pig and she sold-out her mutant heritage for an insensitive pig.

She didn't do it for Bobby. She did it for herself.




When Hank McCoy became Ambassador to the UN, I felt nothing because I was asking myself WTF just happened.

Was this supposed to be an emotional moment................?

Agreed. Though I felt something when Magneto was forcibly given the cure. It may have been slightly hypocritical of the X-Men, but I couldn't help but feel for Magneto. The look on his face was perfect. Ian McKellen is a phenomenal actor.

 

[danoyse]

When Cyclops died, I felt nothing because for the 5 minutes he was on-screen he acted like a whiny *****.

Because his fiance died?

You saw his depression beginning at the end of X2, when Logan told him "She did make a choice. She chose you." And Cyclops just walked away. Clearly the relationship had only gotten worse since then.

When Xavier "died", I felt nothing because he acted like a morally questionable, know-it-all *******.

How so? He was trying to protect people. He put the psychic blocks in to protect Jean from herself.

I kept thinking Wolverine was reacting the way he did partly because people tried to control him once too.

When Angel saved his father, I felt nothing because the actor's main purpose was to provide eye candy for the ladies (it sure wasn't to provide character development) and, for all we know, his father was an unrepentent bigot to the end.

Oh please. Ben Foster was cute and all, but I wanted to see more of him because I liked the character, especially after that opening scene with the young Angel. He just needed more character development.

When Magneto was defeated by the cure, I felt nothing because the X-Men acted like hypocrites in defeating him that way.

Hypocrites? How else would they stop him. What's the worst punishment to give Magneto for everythign he's done than make him the very thing he hates. As I remember, Magneto had sent Juggernaught bashing into the complex to murder a mutant child. He's not above going after his own either.

When Rogue and Bobby got back together, I felt nothing because he was an insensitive pig and she sold-out her mutant heritage for an insensitive pig.

What?!?! She can't touch people. It would be a handicapping mutation that a cure would a good thing, if she wanted it. And if Bobby didn't want her after that, she was never his in the first place.

 

[danoyse]

Nice post.

Agreed. Though I felt something when Magneto was forcibly given the cure. It may have been slightly hypocritical of the X-Men, but I couldn't help but feel for Magneto. The look on his face was perfect. Ian McKellen is a phenomenal actor.

I thought this was his best performance of the 3 movies, especially that look when he realized he had to run like hell from Jean.

 

[Bullsear]

Now there is an EMO whining thread started by someone who "felt nothing"? LOL!! I suggest you write your lack of feelings in your journal and maybe you will answer your own soul-searching, angst-ridden questions...but please don't start cutting yourself so you know you are alive!

What's next? A thread for metrosexuals who loathed Wolverine's hair?

Actually, it's interesting, cause his problems with the movie are actually about movie making. Your purpose as a film maker is to make people feel SOMETHING. It doesn't have to be anything in particular, just so it's not nothing. X-men was nothing.
I also find it interesting that many, many, MANY of the critics voiced opinions very similar to his. Maybe you should listen to people who know a thing or two about art, the medium, and what movies are supposed to do instead of bashing him.

He was still grieving over the death of Jean. His true love.

Xavier had to do what he did. It was Logan who kept on badgering and provoking Xavier.

Uh.. no. His main purpose(s) included being the reason for the cure (as shown in the early flashback), the reason the mansion stays open, and demonstrated as a symbol for liberty at the end scene in the park.

What else were they supposed to do? Magneto was going crazy. The only other way he had to be stopped was for him to die, and that would be morally worse than curing him.

Not the whole time. Did you miss her scene with Scott and her scenes at the mansion?

An insensitive pig who clearly showed his affection for her. Hence the reason he goes to the cure station. To find Rogue. And Rogue didn't "sell out". To her, she was at a disadvantage, because she could never touch anybody without hurting, or killing them.

He was promoted because of his heroics at Alcatraz Island.

As a side, note, it's this type of "rationalization" that contributes to the movie industry not caring if they put out good movies. They know that if they put bankable characters doing neat looking things in a movie with an ambiguous plot and little to no development, people like this guy will fill in the blanks for them. They don't have to make good movies, cause you don't expect them to. I could write a post exactly like this defending "Howard the Duck" or "Battlefield Earth."

 

[Decay]

The movie didn't fail. Just because important characters die and u feel sorry about that it's not a reason important enough to make X3 a bad movie.

 

[CapBeerCino]

The movie didn't fail. Just because important characters die and u feel sorry about that it's not a reason important enough to make X3 a bad movie.

True, it's not enough to make x-3 a bad movie. That's were the script, dialogue and plot holes come in.

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

To be perfectly honest, none of these films have ever made me feel anything for these characters.

When Jean died at the end of X2--I felt nothing. Nothing. Logan's emotional reaction felt hollow since I knew he didn't know her at all hardly. Scott had just come back from who-knows-where. Storm just peeked over the edge of the window. It felt empty.

So to me, this is par for the course. There was no familial development in these films, so I'm confused as to why people are suddenly ranting as if something's been lost here...

 

[Decay]

The X-men movies were not dramatic movies. Jean's death for example wasn't suppose to make us cry. We enjoy these movies for the action, the plot, the characters, special effects but not for the dramatic storyline.

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

The X-men movies were not dramatic movies. Jean's death for example wasn't suppose to make us cry. We enjoy these movies for the action, the plot, the characters, special effects but not for the dramatic storyline.

I disagree. One look at the tearful performances of Logan and Scott (which carried on all the way to the white house) and it's clear that the makers did intend for us to have some sort of emotional response to her death. The problem was no time was spent on getting the audience to attached to Jean.

And if there is anything Bryan's X-films are known for, it's certainly the dramatic storylines--not the action.

 

[Decay]

I meant that when I watch the X-men i don't feel the same way as when i watch Love Story. The X movies are not just dramatic movies.

 

[Bullsear]

True, it's not enough to make x-3 a bad movie. That's were the script, dialogue and plot holes come in.

AAAAAAAHAHAHAHA!

Snap!

 

[Star-Titan]

x-men 3 was very dissapointing..very dissapointing indeed.... i only wish it could have been better, but i know that will never happen...my hopes and dreams have been killed....i will no longer ever be happy ever again...

 

[MoviesKickAss]

The X movies are not just dramatic movies.

True that & they fail horribly at adding dramatic stuff