Wrestling

[The Apatow Crew]

Easy,just put Foley on SD in some capacity and let the talk turn to politics,JBL and Foley are on opposite sides of that and then have JBL heel it up and attack Foley leading to a match

seems like typical wwe storylines.

 

[citizenpain]

carlito talking about money in the bank and rvd coming so close to winning that #1 contenders match made me think that those two are going to have a money in the bank ladder match at wrestlemania. it makes sense too cuz they already got beef... carlito/rvd in a ladder match? that has potential to be awesome.

 

[Sabretooth]

Is it me or did it seem like RVD was reading off of cards last night during that promo?

 

[Mister J]

I've always thought RVD sounds like that. Must be the whole knowledge of camera thing. I wouldn't expect him to talk like that in real life.

 

[Sabretooth]

Triple H was probably behind the camera laughing his ass off and holding a sign saying ''Midcard is RVD's home''

 

[Mister J]

Especially, if Trips gets his way (which he usually does). That Triple Threat was ruined for me 'cause you could see the end coming a mile away.

 

[Bizzybone]

Who would win in a fight.



Yokuzona vs Paul White

 

[The Ghoul]

Yokozuna is dead & That's completley irrelevant... Big Show.

As for what's been said for the last 4 pages...
Cena will lose at WM HHH was very open that it was his goal sence Cena went to Raw, It's the only reason he didn't go right to the title picture. Bottom line he LET Cena milk his reign. He and Batista are friends & that's why he jobbed, but he HATES Cena.

RVD is a total package, great ring work, great mic-work. His ECW promos were what built his equally ****ing stellar matches, because it wasn't about the story in the first place. Instead of someone coming with some silly gimmicky story, RVD would just shoot then say "RVD 420: I just smoked your ass" His ONS promo was barley a stitch of what he used to cut before he was rendered to "Whatever Dude!"

Matt, Jericho, Christian & Edge are the back bone of WWE. Losing CC & Y2J in less than 2 months killed any momentum they may have even thought they would get after moving Cena. The CC/Cena fued was total money. WWe squashed it because Vince has it in for us (I believe this may be one of the monitored threads by officials). Edge was a great Champ. At every WWE event I attended the camp was either HHH or Cena. & to see neither of them as champ at RR turned me into a cheshire cat. (only to die a little inside when Cena won.)

 

[The Apatow Crew]

Especially, if Trips gets his way (which he usually does). That Triple Threat was ruined for me 'cause you could see the end coming a mile away.

of course you can do anything when your banging the bos's daughter.

 

[da creole kid]

What are your guys malfunction?

The WWE doesn't ****ing care to bury wrestlers unless they absolutely have to! (Edge is on watch) The WWE is a business and a business needs to draw as many customers to optimize profit and insure growth.

Hulk Hogan is one of the worst wrestlers of all-time but he pushed the WWF in the wrestling forefront with Hulkamania and he is the biggest reason the NWO carried the WCW. You know why? He had crossover appeal. He can go to Johnny Carson, star in movies, do a skit on SNL, and make it on the cover of Sports Illustrated.

Jericho had a chance to do so. But his Undisputed Title was miscalculated and fizzled. Triple H has done some things to **** **** up, but Jericho was not his fault.

And don't get me started on Christian. He had a cult following. But it wasn't a religion. What the **** he ever do for the company than do his job!

 

[Hunter Rider]

WWE have buried many a guy out of spite or political manipulation
Jericho would have done great as Champ if HHH had not made him into a joke,read Y2J's article in this thread and Christian was over in MSG that has been the WWE barometer for years and yet they buried him because they didn't make him

 

[da creole kid]

hunter rider- Do you watch "Scrubs"?

 

[Hunter Rider]

hunter rider- Do you watch "Scrubs"?

no,why ?

 

[Mister J]

Backstage politics has always been a part of professional wrestling. Once you allow the talent to have influence into the product, it's inevitable. Jericho's title reign was 'miscalculated and fizzled' because they never allow him to gain any credibility as champion. Basically, the whole thing leading up to that year's WM was Jericho as Steph's puppet. You knew Trips was gonna kick his ass, as that's what happened. After that Jericho didn't come near the title again.

WWE seems to have alot of that, where they'll book a fashionable result and then reverse it and never touch it again, all for no apparent reason. Jericho, Benoit, Eddie, Orton all had title wins and then they lost and never sniffed the belt again. It makes the on-screen presentation weak because the angles just don't make sense.

creole, please calm down...really. That's way too many asterisks in your post. It's not that serious. WWE does occasionally engage in some rather mindless decisions when it comes to push/de-pushing wrestlers. It's as if they've forgotten how to build characters and try to shove people down your throat (current Cena, nearing it with Boogeyman). When somebody is over, they just kinda ignore it (RVD, Show, Kane). That, or they'll just modify it and screw it up (former Cena).

 

[Hunter Rider]

Backstage politics has always been a part of professional wrestling. Once you allow the talent to have influence into the product, it's inevitable. Jericho's title reign was 'miscalculated and fizzled' because they never allow him to gain any credibility as champion. Basically, the whole thing leading up to that year's WM was Jericho as Steph's puppet. You knew Trips was gonna kick his ass, as that's what happened. After that Jericho didn't come near the title again.

WWE seems to have alot of that, where they'll book a fashionable result and then reverse it and never touch it again, all for no apparent reason. Jericho, Benoit, Eddie, Orton all had title wins and then they lost and never sniffed the belt again. It makes the on-screen presentation weak because the angles just don't make sense.

creole, please calm down...really. That's way too many asterisks in your post. It's not that serious. WWE does occasionally engage in some rather mindless decisions when it comes to push/de-pushing wrestlers. It's as if they've forgotten how to build characters and try to shove people down your throat (current Cena, nearing it with Boogeyman). When somebody is over, they just kinda ignore it (RVD, Show, Kane). That, or they'll just modify it and screw it up (former Cena).

Yep,Politics and backstage power plays are all part of the game going way back,as Flair's book puts it,guys like him don't see it as burying someone but instead as preserving their spots and paychecks
This Cena vs HHH match though makes no sense from any logical angle

 

[da creole kid]

There was an episode not too long ago in which Donald Faison's character Turk was edging for some kind of promotion that had only four open spots. And he kept brown-nosing and bring up his good record, but his boss insisted that he had to something that could be printed in some kind of medical medical journal to insure a spot.

As the plot went he had trouble with a patient who didn't want anasthetics during her surgery. His wife suggested that he hypnotizes the patient before the surgery. He didn't take the suggestion seriously; but, after hearing that his boss said that such a procedure would be publishable, he went through with it. The result was comedically unsuccessful (It is a comedy); however, the attempt was admirable and the boss assured Turk that the story would be sent to a bunch of medical journals to published. Whether he got the promotion, I'm not sure. I haven't seen every episode.

However hunter rider you know why this episode relates to Jericho, Cena, and especially Christian?

 

[3dman27]

They're now situated in Orlando Florida, basking in Christians main event status and Heavyweight strap.

oh yes

 

[Hunter Rider]

There was an episode not too long ago in which Donald Faison's character Turk was edging for some kind of promotion that had only four open spots. And he kept brown-nosing and bring up his good record, but his boss insisted that he had to something that could be printed in some kind of medical medical journal to insure a spot.

As the plot went he had trouble with a patient who didn't want anasthetics during her surgery. His wife suggested that he hypnotizes the patient before the surgery. He didn't take the suggestion seriously; but, after hearing that his boss said that such a procedure would be publishable, he went through with it. The result was comedically unsuccessful (It is a comedy); however, the attempt was admirable and the boss assured Turk that the story would be sent to a bunch of medical journals to published. Whether he got the promotion, I'm not sure. I haven't seen every episode.

However hunter rider you know why this episode relates to Jericho, Cena, and especially Christian?

Yes but it doesn't apply to Jericho and Christian because they never got a proper chance,the "operation" didn't fail they just got buried through politics
In Cena's case WWE obviously feel that since it works for 50% of the audience then that is enough

 

[Hunter Rider]

SD Spoilers

Spoiler

No pyro, but the legend killer Randy Orton comes out to laugh in the crowd's face and gives the old " I told you so" promo. He talks about how his father built the business and how they are the best wrestling family. Then out of nowhere, Chavo Guerrero comes out of the crowd and gives Orton the triple verticals. Security comes in and carries Chavo out with him chanting, "We are the best family in wrestling you forgot...you forgot about me."

Comerical break and we get a change of the top rope for some reason

Booker T's Music hits and he comes out for commentary

The Boogeyman b The ***** in a handicap match after which Boogey starts to go after Booker but he hops the barrier. Boogey then dumps a whole bag of worms on the announce table. FUNNY STUFF, probably the best part of the night entertainment wise.

We then have our tag team title match with saw MNM b Matt Hardy and Tatanka. Huge pop for Matt,but overall just like at NWO, the crowd was dead.

We then got Rey Mysterio addressing the crowd and saying that he is sorry to Vicky, Chavo, the fans, and most of all Eddie Guerrero for losing at NWO. This brings out Teddy Long who then tells us that while he can't take Orton out of the main event at WM22, he can add Rey to it and does, making it Rey vs Orton vs The champ at WM22. I was wondering why Long didn't say Angle's name? I'll get to that.

Greg Helms defeated Psicosis in a Cruiserweight title match. Very good spotfest match)

We then see NWO highlights from the Taker vs Angle match. Teddy Long comes out again and anounces the rematch next week on Smackdown from Washington,D.C.

We then have our main event six man tag which saw Chris Benoit & Lashley & Rey Mysterio defeat Randy Orton & JBL & Finlay. Damn good match. Lashley is a cross between Goldberg, Monty Brown with a touch of Lesnar if I ever did see one.

 

[da creole kid]

Mister J

1. I don't deny that backstage politics exist. (But as Marcellus Wallace said, "That's a mother****ing fact of life").

2. And I'll could agree that Vince could do a better job. (He screwed up Muhhamad Hassan).

However, the WWE ain't high school; so quit acting like a high school chick and ignore the gossip.

hunter rider might have some potential, but most of you hardcore fans would destroy the WWE if you somehow ran it. (Of course you won't, but I can use my imagination if you can).

 

[Twitch]

Spoiler

--WrestleMania moment focusing on Jeff Hardy’s swanton off a ladder. That should stir some internet discussion.

--Interview w/Misterio Jr. apologizes to everyone for losing including Vickie, Chavo & Eddie—Teddy Long comes out, shows the finish from Sunday, and makes the WM match a 3-way

WM improved a little bit and very interesting clip shown

 

[Twitch]

Damn You Hunter

 

[Hunter Rider]

Damn You Hunter

what ?

 

[Twitch]

Never Mind

 

[Mister J]

However, the WWE ain't high school; so quit acting like a high school chick and ignore the gossip.

What does that even mean? It makes absolutely no sense.

hunter rider might have some potential, but most of you hardcore fans would destroy the WWE if you somehow ran it. (Of course you won't, but I can use my imagination if you can).

You might wanna take note that 'hardcore' fans and management can, and often do, have divergent interests when it comes to business. As long as a guy pushes merchandise he'll be on/near the top. However, that doesn't mean that he's being booked in the most entertaining way. You seem to be resistant to that notion.