Wrestling

[The Techno Bat]

OK, so you guys are saying that if Kane started going ape*** and Chokeslamming top card guys, left and right, you wouldn't buy it?

Look at the goofy stuff Angle has done, or JBL or even Edge. Come on. Kane just needs some good booking.

I think Kane should be doing what The Big Show is doing to guys right now, totally destroying them....

 

[The Batman]

Yeah, I think so too. He's just been part of too much stupid **** to salvage his career. Oh sure, he'll get a little push every now and then, but that's only to really enforce his character as nothing more than a "threat" to current and future main eventers.....

i dont think he minds. like someone mentioned....look at his previous gimmicks. this guy'll just take anything WWE gives him, it seems. You never hear him complain unlike all the other depushed guys

 

[Eric Draven]

OK, so you guys are saying that if Kane started going ape*** and Chokeslamming top card guys, left and right, you wouldn't buy it?

Look at the goofy stuff Angle has done, or JBL or even Edge. Come on. Kane just needs some good booking.

Not really, because it's been done so many times and each time they ****ed it up. Like when he first returned after his surgery and they were all set to have him be a big main-eventer, they did the Katie Vick angle. Then when they unmasked him, it seemed like they were all set to make him a huge monster again, but all that momentum was destroyed again with that feud with Shane McMahon. Even his first year of rampage was marred a bit because of his one-day title reign and the fact he became a second fiddle to Undertaker after a while.....

 

[Mister J]

Thanks, I thought it was Fake Diesel, do you remember who played Fake Razor?

Some clown named Rick Bogner. Did mostly Japan and ECW.

 

[Eric Draven]

i dont think he minds. like someone mentioned....look at his previous gimmicks. this guy'll just take anything WWE gives him, it seems. You never hear him complain unlike all the other depushed guys

Oh yeah, I don't think he minds. He's probably getting paid a lot of money, so I doubt he's complaining. It's a lot like RVD actually. I mean sure he's not getting any push and all that, but he's getting paid a lot of money and he can probably say anything he wants about Triple H and the McMahons without having to worry much about losing his job.....

 

[The Batman]

OK, so you guys are saying that if Kane started going ape*** and Chokeslamming top card guys, left and right, you wouldn't buy it?

Look at the goofy stuff Angle has done, or JBL or even Edge. Come on. Kane just needs some good booking.

Angle did some stupid stuff, but angles never jobbed to midcarders. hes never been owned by a guy his size and strength everytime he faces off with him like kane does whenever he fights batista. Edge has looked damn good, especially on smackdown in 2002. JBL has gone over on Taker, Booker T, Eddie, and Angle i believe. Who has kane beaten of any importance in the past 3 years?

 

[The Batman]

Oh yeah, I don't think he minds. He's probably getting paid a lot of money, so I doubt he's complaining. It's a lot like RVD actually. I mean sure he's not getting any push and all that, but he's getting paid a lot of money and he can probably say anything he wants about Triple H and the McMahons without having to worry much about losing his job.....

i wish people were more like christian. he knew he wasnt going anywhere and he left. now, hes got the oldest title in wrestling and dosent even have to travel place to place,and he gets good pops

 

[Mister J]

Not really, because it's been done so many times and each time they ****ed it up. Like when he first returned after his surgery and they were all set to have him be a big main-eventer, they did the Katie Vick angle. Then when they unmasked him, it seemed like they were all set to make him a huge monster again, but all that momentum was destroyed again with that feud with Shane McMahon. Even his first year of rampage was marred a bit because of his one-day title reign and the fact he became a second fiddle to Undertaker after a while.....

I agree that they have severly dropped the ball on his pushes. I guess I've been waiting for them to cash in on it, so I'm still hopeful. The general audience may feel completely different than I do. Kane still gets decent pops, it might go somewhere. They'd have to actually follow thru though.

 

[Eric Draven]

i wish people were more like christian. he knew he wasnt going anywhere and he left. now, hes got the oldest title in wrestling and dosent even have to travel place to place,and he gets good pops

Not everybody can get guaranteed the title though. And with RVD, I think he may care more about performing on the larger stage the WWE provides than anything else. That may be so for a lot of wrestlers as well.

Plus, maybe a lot of wrestlers don't really want to burn bridges with the WWE or they could end up getting the ULtimate Warrior treatment....

 

[Mister J]

Angle did some stupid stuff, but angles never jobbed to midcarders. hes never been owned by a guy his size and strength everytime he faces off with him like kane does whenever he fights batista. Edge has looked damn good, especially on smackdown in 2002. JBL has gone over on Taker, Booker T, Eddie, and Angle i believe. Who has kane beaten of any importance in the past 3 years?

Crap. I really can't recall anyone of the top of my head, outside of that him burying UT crap (but he got the worst end of that). But they've still put him out there as a credible guy. He did have a couple good runs in the RR (though he never won it).

 

[The Ghoul]

I agree that they have severly dropped the ball on his pushes. I guess I've been waiting for them to cash in on it, so I'm still hopeful. The general audience may feel completely different than I do. Kane still gets decent pops, it might go somewhere. They'd have to actually follow thru though.

No I'm very hopeful. I maybe an idiot for it, but I definetly see That Glenn Jacobs & the character Kane have what in the business they call "It." I really have a hard time believing that soomeone like that is going to be wasted forever. I feel the same way about RVD, Benoit, Rhino (even in TNA, he's slowly moving down the latter) & Punk (although I understand why he's not there. Apparently he has a lot of heat with big timers, for spouting off during a dark match he did... plus he's a straight-edge emo ***... that's being unbiased because I hate him & what he stands for but I admit when I see a main eventer )

 

[da creole kid]

Kane's got movie coming out under the WWE Films division!

If the movie is a success, he will be WHT within months of the movies release.

That is why he is going to win the "Money in the Bank" match in Wrestlemania "overcoming" the Carlito and Masters alliance. Him and Big Show will lose the WTT the next night on Raw. And he will have an immediate rivalry with Chris Masters that will occupy his time until his movies come out.

If it is successful, he will when title and hold the belt until the sequel gets scripted. Once sequel is approved he will lose the title in a Hell in Cell or Buried Alive match until so he can star in that sequel.

If the movie isn't, he still could win if the title holder Triple H, but he will lose it to Cena or someone else the next paper-per-view. If Triple H is not the title holder when he cashes in MITB, he will lose.

Kane is going to get a BIG push. And working with Masters in their rivalry might add a submission maneuver to his repetoire.

 

[The Apatow Crew]

I'm sorry, I must be one of the few tht thought Trips humping that mannequin or whatever was funny. I nearly cried watching it. I was so stupid, I couldn't help it.

i know i just thought it was so stupid it was funny. especally after he says "oh my god i screwed your brains out"

 

[punishermax]

So, its my birthday today, and my birthday wishes are going to be: HHH to go over at WM, and that RVD gets a main event push (He should, he was soooo freakin' over this last week) and that I can convince my mother to pay half of the bill for a Winged Eagle replica belt.

 

[Mister J]

So, its my birthday today, and my birthday wishes are going to be: HHH to go over at WM, and that RVD gets a main event push (He should, he was soooo freakin' over this last week) and that I can convince my mother to pay half of the bill for a Winged Eagle replica belt.

1. Very likely to happen
2. Ain't gonna happen (wish it did)
3. Well, I don't know anything about your mother, but who turns down their kid on their B-Day.

2 outta 3 ain't bad.

 

[nite-owl]

Source: WrestlingObserver

Something big as far as an announcement to wrestlers is expected on Monday at the combined Raw & Smackdown tapings in Washington, DC. All wrestlers on the roster, including the guys who haven't been used in a while, have been told they must be at the tapings.

Seems interestings.

 

[Mister J]

Source: WrestlingObserver


On the road to WrestleMania in Chicago, RVD has an autograph session at Popeye's Chicken in Waukegan from 4:30-6 p.m. on 3/29. Booker T will be at Popeye's Chicken in Round Lake Beach on 3/30 at 4:30-6 p.m. and Chris Benoit will be at Popeye's Chicken in Countryside on 3/31 from 4:30-6 p.m.


WTF? That's just funny. Since when do they hold autograph sessions in greasy chicken shacks.

 

[Bad Superman]

IS EDDIE GUERRERO STILL ALIVE?

IS EDDIE GUERRERO STILL ALIVE?
By Kenny Casanova from www.KennyCasanova.com
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http://members.aol.com/k9casanova/


Ok… Now some people will want to beat me for saying this, but I find myself asking a question that isn’t appropriate in any light. However, it feels like WWE is booking something that doesn’t seem possible and I have found myself asking myself a silly question whenever I turn on WWE. …Is Eddie Guerrero still alive?

My feeling is other people have suspected this, but no one has the pistachios to come out and say it. So here I go; Eddie Guerrero’s death could all be a big super smart angle for a return at Wrestlemania.

My brother-in-law is not a wrestling fan, but comes over to eat wings when we get PPVs. He saw some of what was going on with Rey Mysterio and wanted to know if Eddie was still alive. Whether fans want to say it or not, recent WWE storylines are making it seem like Eddie Guerrero’s death HAS BEEN BOOKED BY A PROMOTER.

Why would Vince McMahon want to go there? Why would a global megalithic corporation like WWE want to fake the death of one of its superstar performers, risking the possible backlash that would occur from worldwide media and its fans? SIMPLE… WWE figured out this formula a long time ago…Bad publicity is good publicity.

In a day when it is impossible to fool the fans due to the widely used lighting quick communication resource called the Internet, the WWE knows that “strategic leaks” are the only way you can really throw off the modern wrestling fan and subsequently create interest. Recent examples of this have shown that there is money to be made from false leaks if it is done correctly.

The Edge & Hardy scandal was amplified, exploited and leaked, then turned into a moneymaker (though it was too bad Matt Hardy botched his return promo)… Chris Jericho puts up a TNA logo on his site to keep interest on him. Go back a few years and you will see other examples. Brian Pillman convinced WCW to break his contract so his crazy gimmick looked legit to anyone who might do the research (only to jump to WWF.) Vince Russo drops false rumors on the Internet to throw fans off to create more shock when storylines go the other way. Austin amplifies his hatred toward Eric Bischoff in an ECW stint to get sympathy from the crowd and to push the envelope of boss-hating.

Good wrestling promoters have a history of twisting the truth to make the most believable storylines going (i.e. Road Warrior Hawk drunk angle, Bret got screwed angle, N.W.O. and other various invasion plots etc…) The promoters even work the wrestlers to get the leaks that they want these days and visa-versa.

There is so much foreshadowing going on that makes me think WWE is planning an “Eddie Return.” I know that odds of this are slim, and that this blog will be looked at as a big conspiracy theory. I agree with you and it is wrong to say it. But it would be even more wrong if they did it. What if Eddie’s death was a work? If it is, it is the greatest and, at the same time, the rudest work of all time.

I have asked a number of people in the business what they think about this and they say all about the same thing. “You are crazy,” or “I think that would be too F’ed up,” but after I drop a few little bombs on them that have made me wonder, they have wondered too.

The last time Eddie was on television, Ken Kennedy had hit him in the head with a chair. After the match, there was a promo with Batista. His head was all bandaged up and Batista was concerned. The last words Eddie said were, “Don’t worry about me, I am going to be alright.” This footage might be revisited if this is a big rude angle.

At the Eddie Guerrero Press Conference, Vince McMahon and Chavo Guerrero seemed to me to have too much composure. At the time when I watched it, I figured to myself, “Wow, Chavo is doing such a great job.” He didn’t seem sad and I figured if it were me, I would have been bawling my eyes out. I wondered why at the time and then resolved that it must just be he knew this day would eventually come, or maybe they were not as close as he had always told everyone. I look back now and wonder if this is a work, did Chavo think it wasn’t going to work.

Either there was and still is a lot of bad taste going on, or Eddie is still alive. Vince McMahon is a bastard, but grilling Eddie’s wife Vickie, a day or so after his death on live TV?!? How does someone even approach the option? How can you ask a widow to appear on TV when her husband isn’t even in the ground yet? Does WWE have no respect for dead people and mourning? Or did Vickie just get off the phone with a clean-shaven bald-headed Eddie Guerrero who is camping out in Jamaica?

Well if Eddie is alive and hiding out, how could this secret have lasted for four months? My guess is, if this is a work, the lockerroom could still be partially kayfabed to cut down possible leaks. And moreover, Eddie is probably just camping out, or maybe getting some kind of surgery somewhere and is indeed out of the public eye.

The WWE Raw & Smackdown Tribute shows seemed to contrived. While some of the wrestlers seemed very upset and concerned, others seemed like they needed to play to the camera. Now it is impossible to speculate (if this is a work) who knew and who did not know at the time of these shows. It is possible that only a tight group of people actually know the truth and might not have known the truth at the time of filming. I would suspect some (like Benoit) were informed immediately after the shooting with Eddie calling them. But even at that, Rey Mysterio did not seem moved at all. Mysterio taking off his mask seemed like the cliché “let’s make this look real” thing to do.

The tribute shows had a tinge of bull**** to them. The commentators on both shows said, “Eddie would have wanted this,” about a hundred times to validate what seemed like a moneymaker. This could be foreshadowing Vince blaming a return angle on Eddie, to keep the heat off of him in the future.

It is fact that most wrestlers have never been great actors, and the few who are have usually moved on to bigger and better the things. At the tribute shows, there was definitely a vibe of bad acting going on, which to me smells like a work. But were the wrestlers working the fans due to a future storyline, or because they felt obligated to be teary-eyed and were not?

One theory on the bad-acting vibe is maybe the wrestlers thought that they should be crying but were not, so they tried to. Seemed like some of the wrestlers were forcing themselves to cry because they thought that is what they should do in this situation, but the tears just were not turning on …It is possible that forced tears is the product of a desensitization to wrestler deaths –seeing how there have been so many. HOWEVER, forced tears could also be the product of the bad acting that goes along with another storyline.

I am sure that WWE knows how big the next-night ratings were when Pillman passed away and also Owen Hart. But they never had TWO tribute shows, due to a death in the family, nor has any death lasted as long with so much TV time and recognition as this one has.

WWE has referenced Eddie’s death NUMEROUS times every single show. It has continuously reminded the fans by armbands on Chavo (on Raw) and Rey Mysterio (on Smackdown) that Eddie Guerrero is no longer with us. Either this is a super sign of respect for the dead and the WWE has finally got it and learned that life is valuable and we should not forget, or (gulp) …it means something else, something I hate to even think of.

Wow. . . what next? Eddie sightings? Geez. . . .

 

[Sarge 2.0]

And since when are wrestlers of their calibre relegated to Popeyes?

 

[LastSunrise1981]

I read that Eddie Guerrero deal and that guy is a moron. I know it's his opinion and he has a right to it, however, there's no way the WWE would do this and there's no way Eddie would've agreed to it.

Besides if he was really thinking, doesn't he think that if he were alive somebody would've saw him? It's not like he could've stayed in his house all day and night.

I miss Eddie very much and I'd love for him to be here once more. But the reality of it is that he's gone.

And as much of a bastard Vince is, there's no way he would do this either and he would damn well do anything, but certainly not this though because fans would be pissed off and stop attending the shows.

 

[The Techno Bat]

Some clown named Rick Bogner. Did mostly Japan and ECW.

Thanks

 

[The Techno Bat]

Source: WrestlingObserver

Something big as far as an announcement to wrestlers is expected on Monday at the combined Raw & Smackdown tapings in Washington, DC. All wrestlers on the roster, including the guys who haven't been used in a while, have been told they must be at the tapings.

Seems interestings.

I wonder if it has anything to do with Saturday Night Main Event returning to NBC in March

 

[The Techno Bat]

Sticking with the topic of Kane for a bit more does anybody think that he and The Big Show are destined for a split and that they will start a program? Me personally I think they should be ripping up the tag team division as the two monsters they are, as single wrestlers they are great and tough to beat, but as a duo, who could honestly stop them? I don't think there is two legit superstars that could team up and take down Kane & The Big Show in a straight up clean match, are there two superstars on the WWE roster that could? I doubt it...

 

[LastSunrise1981]

Sticking with the topic of Kane for a bit more does anybody think that he and The Big Show are destined for a split and that they will start a program? Me personally I think they should be ripping up the tag team division as the two monsters they are, as single wrestlers they are great and tough to beat, but as a duo, who could honestly stop them? I don't think there is two legit superstars that could team up and take down Kane & The Big Show in a straight up clean match, are there two superstars on the WWE roster that could? I doubt it...

That's the problem though. The WWE doesn't have enough tag-teams to really feud with Kane or Big Show, and whenever a team is built up, either they release them or they quickly fade into obscurity.

You don't have teams like the Hardy Boyz, Edge and Christian, the Dudleys, Right to Censor, DX, or NAO to feud with other teams or the champions.

The WWE needs to build up a credible tag team division and make it to where fans can take it seriously. Now they just throw two guys together and hope for the best.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Kane is fairly mediocre in all aspects of wrestling,he is no Vader or Taker and is not nearly the worker or character Show is
If his movie is a hit he will continue doing what he is doing and that is play utility heel/Face in any given situation