Wrestling

[Hunter Rider]

Mister J

1. I don't deny that backstage politics exist. (But as Marcellus Wallace said, "That's a mother****ing fact of life").

2. And I'll could agree that Vince could do a better job. (He screwed up Muhhamad Hassan).

However, the WWE ain't high school; so quit acting like a high school chick and ignore the gossip.

hunter rider might have some potential, but most of you hardcore fans would destroy the WWE if you somehow ran it. (Of course you won't, but I can use my imagination if you can).

WWE is worse than high school

The thing is that politics often make things worse so fans are gonna say if they think something is garbage like Cena vs HHH or Y2J getting buried but if you look at the views on No Way Out you will see that fans also give credit where it is due when they nail it
Thats the point of a message board,if everyone just posted like zombies agreeing with everything WWE did and ignoring some of the blatant political BS then there would be nothing to talk about

 

[NDX]

Dammit, I was beaten twice to the spoilers. I must really be tired. Guess I should sleep at night and not during the day.

Well, at least Smackdown! looks like it will be worth watching, minus the in ring interview segments.

Looks like they're gonna set up the Taker/Henry feud not this show, but the next. I had a feeling that was going to happen a few weeks ago, and NWO confirmed it.

 

[3dman27]

SD Spoilers

Spoiler

No pyro, but the legend killer Randy Orton comes out to laugh in the crowd's face and gives the old " I told you so" promo. He talks about how his father built the business and how they are the best wrestling family. Then out of nowhere, Chavo Guerrero comes out of the crowd and gives Orton the triple verticals. Security comes in and carries Chavo out with him chanting, "We are the best family in wrestling you forgot...you forgot about me."

Comerical break and we get a change of the top rope for some reason

Booker T's Music hits and he comes out for commentary

The Boogeyman b The ***** in a handicap match after which Boogey starts to go after Booker but he hops the barrier. Boogey then dumps a whole bag of worms on the announce table. FUNNY STUFF, probably the best part of the night entertainment wise.

We then have our tag team title match with saw MNM b Matt Hardy and Tatanka. Huge pop for Matt,but overall just like at NWO, the crowd was dead.

We then got Rey Mysterio addressing the crowd and saying that he is sorry to Vicky, Chavo, the fans, and most of all Eddie Guerrero for losing at NWO. This brings out Teddy Long who then tells us that while he can't take Orton out of the main event at WM22, he can add Rey to it and does, making it Rey vs Orton vs The champ at WM22. I was wondering why Long didn't say Angle's name? I'll get to that.

Greg Helms defeated Psicosis in a Cruiserweight title match. Very good spotfest match)

We then see NWO highlights from the Taker vs Angle match. Teddy Long comes out again and anounces the rematch next week on Smackdown from Washington,D.C.

We then have our main event six man tag which saw Chris Benoit & Lashley & Rey Mysterio defeat Randy Orton & JBL & Finlay. Damn good match. Lashley is a cross between Goldberg, Monty Brown with a touch of Lesnar if I ever did see one.

what about angle? you didn't mention him after the rey-orton match

 

[Hunter Rider]

what about angle? you didn't mention him after the rey-orton match

Angle fought in a fatal 4 way dark match after the show

 

[da creole kid]

hunter rider

The "operation" wasn't important. It was the "published" that was key.

As The Rock best put it- "Take the bull by the horns and raise the people's eyebrows."

See, simply being published draws interest. Enough interest brings investors. Investors brings money. Money does not insure success, but it does give you breathing room and a possibility at growth. The boss encouraged Turk do it because he knew it could bring the hospital money.

Jericho's title reign was the final miscalculation of the whole miscalculated "Invasion" storyline. It has little to do with Triple H as much as it is Vince's big screw up. When he won, the casual fans were not being drawn in and the company was not making enough money nor were the ratings going up.

Now Jericho does a decent job with getting the WWE pub outside the ring. But all he has done of any note is "I Love the 80's", "...90's", and "Best Week Ever". These shows plays to his strengths. But Big Show has done more for the company with his great interviews on "Conan O'Brien" and his work in "SNL".

Cena has a CD. He had a movie; although I hear that's its being buried. He gave the WWE fans the spinner U.S. and WWE titles. He's been on "Mad TV" (which isn't SNL, but it is a start). His mic work is good and "You Can't See Me" is great intro song and listenable as a novelty record (It's no "Super Bowl Shuffle", but what is). And until Eddie died, his spinner chain I believe was the best-selling item on WWEshop.com.

Christian sold a couple of T-shirts nowhere near the volume of Cena's "Chain Gang" jersey. He has done nothing to make the company any money but do his job. The mafia would deem him a "lousy earner". Come on, The Rock tried to help him out but it didn't translate to anyone who wasn't already a Christian fan.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Jericho was booked badly,look at HHH's first run ? he sucked and no one cared unless he was in with Austin or Rock,and then what happened ? they put him in that feud with Cactus Jack and they had 2 incredible matches that HHH won cleanly and the fans started to buy him as champ
If Jericho had not been made to look like a fool against The Rock and Austin and then subsequntly made Steph's coffee boy at HHH's wish then he could have became a draw
The fact is you have to get a solid booked run to be made a draw,you don't just make money overnight,if Y2J had been booked like a heel god instead of a b1tch he would have caught on but they buried him instead
As for Christian did he get the belt for 5 months and run with it ? No he never even got a chnace b/c WWE resented that he made himself popular so there is no debate on him
I'm curious who is your favourite wrestler Creole ?

 

[da creole kid]

Kurt Angle

 

[Hunter Rider]

Kurt Angle

Great wreslter now im bored of this "what if" discussion and im guessing you are so i want to ask you,do you think Angle will retain at Mania or not ?

 

[da creole kid]

If they somehow muscle in Mysterio- no.

If it is simply RKO and Angle- yes.

I don't like the fact that RKO is going to have title shot because it destroys the credibility of the Royal Rumble.

 

[Hunter Rider]

If they somehow muscle in Mysterio- no.

If it is simply RKO and Angle- yes.

I don't like the fact that RKO is going to have title shot because it destroys the credibility of the Royal Rumble.

Agreed,it is a bad idea,have you read the SD spoilers ?

 

[da creole kid]

No I haven't. Though I probably will around noonish. Any I got to go to class right now.

 

[Hunter Rider]

 

[Bad Superman]

Triple H is going to be in for a shock, it doesn't matter if he smashes a sledgehammer into Cena's mom, he is still going to be cheered and cheered out of the building against Cena.

People are tired of Cena as it is.

ROFL I could actually picture Triple H doing that.

Respect has nothing to do with it,Cena isnt very good in the ring but WWE feel he is their next Rock,if HHH buries him at Mania the feud and money dies in one go,so they will have Cena go over the first time and then continue the fued over the following months to keep TV ratings and Buyrates up
HHH attempting make Cena more credible makes more money in the longterm

I do believe Cena will win at Mania for that same reason. I think WWE has to be very careful on giving back the title to Triple H. Why? Because TNA is offering what the fans really want: Christian as World Champion, Sting, Golberg's return, etc. Fans are tired of Triple H and want something new. Edge's World title run offered that but was killed off faster than a tequila shot a Mardi Gras. There was a lot of potential with Edge as World Champion but the WWE monkeys couldn't see it.

 

[DOG LIPS]

ROFL I could actually picture Triple H doing that.




I do believe Cena will win at Mania for that same reason. I think WWE has to be very careful on giving back the title to Triple H. Why? Because TNA is offering what the fans really want: Christian as World Champion, Sting, Golberg's return, etc. Fans are tired of Triple H and want something new. Edge's World title run offered that but was killed off faster than a tequila shot a Mardi Gras. There was a lot of potential with Edge as World Champion but the WWE monkeys couldn't see it.

Really?? When?

 

[Sava]

the good old days :Up:

 

[Bad Superman]

Really?? When?

Apparently negotiations are pretty advanced.

From: http://www.wrestlinginc.com/v2/wi/stc/nws/2006/2/21/16127.shtml

Major TNA/Goldberg Update, Heat With Vince McMahon
By Tim Brown, WrestlingInc.com Staff

The Wrestling Observer Newsletter reports that negotiations have gone well between TNA and Goldberg. While it isn’t safe to say anything is expected yet, both sides are hopeful.

Goldberg is said to be very enthusiastic about working for TNA. This is likely because he doesn’t want to be remembered for his last match at Madison Square Garden with Brock Lesnar. Another thing motivating him to work with TNA, is said to be his dislike for Vince McMahon, who he doesn’t even like to talk about.

If a deal is worked out between the two, it’s likely he would wrestle a few matches. It isn’t likely that they will try to build the company around him, or even make him a regular. However, if Spike TV decides to pitch in the money, he could be around for a bit longer than a few matches.

 

[WildChild]

I have no idea why they did't have Carlito screw RVD setting up that feud for mania perfectly.

 

[Bad Superman]

I have no idea why they did't have Carlito screw RVD setting up that feud for mania perfectly.

They can still go at it at WM. Neither has a match for Mania yet.

 

[DOG LIPS]

Apparently negotiations are pretty advanced.

From: http://www.wrestlinginc.com/v2/wi/stc/nws/2006/2/21/16127.shtml

Thanks.

 

[PyroChamber]

I just realized something, are there not going to be any RAW superstar vs. SD superstar matches at WM?

 

[Hunter Rider]

I just realized something, are there not going to be any RAW superstar vs. SD superstar matches at WM?

Only if they make the MITB=2 match 3 and 3

 

[Hunter Rider]

SOURCE: The Wrestling Observer

Following her rise to stardom as a contestant on ABC's "Dancing With The Stars," Stacy Keibler's future as a member of WWE's roster is being called into question.

Although Stacy Keibler told Larry King Live that she will return to WWE shortly after the conclusion of the ABC competition, few within the industry believe she will remain with WWE over the long-term.

When it became clear that Stacy Keibler has a promising future outside of WWE, the company's website actually took down all references to her presence on the reality show. Keibler's contract expires soon, and there is absolutely no optimism about her agreeing to a renewal.

WWE.com later decided to resume pushing Stacy Keibler's performance on the show for public relations purposes, but the company's outlook on the Diva's future has not changed.

 

[The Undertaker]

SOURCE: The Wrestling Observer

Following her rise to stardom as a contestant on ABC's "Dancing With The Stars," Stacy Keibler's future as a member of WWE's roster is being called into question.

Although Stacy Keibler told Larry King Live that she will return to WWE shortly after the conclusion of the ABC competition, few within the industry believe she will remain with WWE over the long-term.

When it became clear that Stacy Keibler has a promising future outside of WWE, the company's website actually took down all references to her presence on the reality show. Keibler's contract expires soon, and there is absolutely no optimism about her agreeing to a renewal.

WWE.com later decided to resume pushing Stacy Keibler's performance on the show for public relations purposes, but the company's outlook on the Diva's future has not changed.

Good for her. The whole Diva scene is WWE is a mess and will always seem to be a mess and it's not like she's a loss wrestling wise either.

The sky is the limit Stacy.

 

[3dman27]

stacey in tna would that work?

 

[White_Howling]

stacey in tna would that work?

she wouldn't get paid as much...

i dont' see it working.... unless shes brings back the... handcock (sp?) persona