Wrestling

[Hunter Rider]

I predict Cena is going to start whining again. When Edge won at NYRevolution he was actually asking backstage when he was going to get his title back.

I think he knows his number is up,he' not dealing with Edge now he is not going to be able to play politics with the guy that runs the show

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Not only that, this was probably one of the first times on live tv that Cena had to cut a one on one promo with The Game, and it might have been a bit stressful with the extra stuff from the fans, but this is HHH, the game he was in there with and I bet it finally hit Cena, and he might have realized this isn't Edge, or Kurt Angle I am dealing with here, this is HHH one of the best in the business today.

Kurt def is one of the best.

 

[Sarge 2.0]

Kurt def is one of the best.

However, Kurt doesn't have the stroke. John is screwed.

 

[White_Howling]

how many times has kurt been champ?

 

[Mister J]

Cena is royally screwed. That promo last night just confirms what pretty much all of us thought. I didn't think it would be that bad though. He basically got his card pulled by Trips.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Well the fact that HHH will always win the belt is like a fundamental rule of WWE these days. It would be like Cena trying to defy gravity. I just think Kurt has a little more clout than Edge.

 

[Prognosticator]

Did you all ever see that documentary on Pro-wrestling wannabees on the Discovery Channel. They used to run it all the time about 4 years ago. It followed these ragtag down-and-out wrestlers through their respective lives. One of the featured people was Cena with the God-awful bowl cut. They looked like a traveling circus, ya know, the real poor ones that still do circuits today. Disc. re-ran it a few months ago, and it was weird b/c there was Cena, all baby-faced and runnin' w/roughneck wrestlers, and here it is just a few years later, and well, we all know the rest...

 

[The FallenAngel]

Regardless of how unprofessional the promo was, or how much it was of HHH just stroking his own ego, I just don't care. Cena is going down, thanks to Trips, and I think that is totally cool. Cena can go down to mid-card obscurity, low-card, or be fired. Doesn't matter. I just hope that HHH will not have this title reign last for an overly long time, and eventually let RVD get a reign as champ.

 

[The Batman]

the WWE would be fools to keep pushing Cena like this. Either repackage his character, let him learn to wrestle better, or they're gonna lose out.

 

[SLYspyder]

there is nothing wrong with Cena. the only reason he is getting booed is that we all know, as a FACE, he got the title too easily, and has held it far too long for a first title reign.

he needs to cut promos like he did before he got the U.S. Championship, and stay out of the title scene for at least a year.


if neither cena nor HHH had the belt, the crowd reaction wouldn't have been what it was.

cant wait for Cena to lose the championship, but I hate that edge is gonna have to wait so long before he gets the title back.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

Regardless of how unprofessional the promo was, or how much it was of HHH just stroking his own ego, I just don't care. Cena is going down, thanks to Trips, and I think that is totally cool. Cena can go down to mid-card obscurity, low-card, or be fired. Doesn't matter. I just hope that HHH will not have this title reign last for an overly long time, and eventually let RVD get a reign as champ.

RVD or Edge would be a great choice, although RVD kind of shot himself in the foot by shooting on the WWE and calling out Triple H in the past.

Hopefully Edge feuds with Triple H next and Cena can have his character repackaged to some extent. He needs to go back to being the bad-ass tweener that cut awesome rap promos.

 

[The Techno Bat]

Kurt def is one of the best.

Oh I totally agree that Kurt Angle is one of the top three guys in wrestling today, he is one of the best, but with HHH there is a different air about him, he can put butts in the seats and has that something everybody loves to hate....

 

[Sarge 2.0]

there is nothing wrong with Cena.

That's just false. He's a limited worker who needs to have obviously more talented wrestlers like Angle, Y2J and Edge look like chumps and resort to "hulk up" style no selling in order to maintain the facade of credibility and athleticism that gets shoved down our throats.

 

[Sarge 2.0]

RVD or Edge would be a great choice, although RVD kind of shot himself in the foot by shooting on the WWE and calling out Triple H in the past.

Hopefully Edge feuds with Triple H next and Cena can have his character repackaged to some extent. He needs to go back to being the bad-ass tweener that cut awesome rap promos.

I agree with what Jericho said in an interview...he needs to drop the rap thing. I think a total repackage is in order so that he isn't such a corporate merchandise oriented character anymore. He's only kept the rap gimmick for so long because of the mainstream popularity of rap music.

 

[Upset Spideyfan]

Damn, I missed Raw, can anyone post what Trip said to Cena?

 

[DOG LIPS]

Damn, I missed Raw, can anyone post what Trip said to Cena?

It was hard to tell, Vince was playing with his ass in a scene before it, so many of us were still gagging. He did make fun of Cena's "Pumping up the Reeboks" move.

 

[Sarge 2.0]

He also said something to the affect of "Face it, you're not a very good wrestler!"

 

[Frico]

If Cena retains at WM2, I'm going to throw my remote directly at the screen.

Seriously, they obviously can't keep pushing him like this.

 

[Eric Draven]

It's funny im no fan of Cena but i feel sorry for him,he didn't ask for this push nor did he ask to be neutered to the point he is a bland bluechip face,
HHH is doing something here that is pleasing ppl that are down on Cena but the reason he is doing it is to stroke his own ego by burying another guy,just like he buried Orton and just like he buried Edge and isn't it quite noticeable that the guys who always seem to keep in good spots and get put over by him are his buddies Flair and Shawn ?

Exactly. Back when Cena was feuding with Edge, fans were just chanting for Cena over Edge. I mean Cena was over again. Now that could have to do with him not having the title or maybe it could have to do with Edge playing a much better heel or it could even have to do with fans wanting to cheer for Triple H just like how they cheer for Angle or even Ric Flair no matter what happens.....


But nonetheless, the WWE is ****ed with Cena. I say the only thing to do to salvage him and this feud is just to turn him at SNME. People are cheering for Triple H now anyways, might as well turn Trips face and turn Cena heel. Have Cena the Raw after just come out ripping into the fans and everybody in general. Hell, imagine if he came out and just said "**** all you fans, I don't need you guys anymore".

 

[Hunter Rider]

Exactly. Back when Cena was feuding with Edge, fans were just chanting for Cena over Edge. I mean Cena was over again. Now that could have to do with him not having the title or maybe it could have to do with Edge playing a much better heel or it could even have to do with fans wanting to cheer for Triple H just like how they cheer for Angle or even Ric Flair no matter what happens.....


But nonetheless, the WWE is ****ed with Cena. I say the only thing to do to salvage him and this feud is just to turn him at SNME. People are cheering for Triple H now anyways, might as well turn Trips face and turn Cena heel. Have Cena the Raw after just come out ripping into the fans and everybody in general. Hell, imagine if he came out and just said "**** all you fans, I don't need you guys anymore".

I certainly agree something needs to be altered,they have come to far down the track to salvage the face run as it stands
The character is to limited in it's appeal and he needs to ditch it altogether
I think him winning at Mania through help and becoming the new corporate champ would be Gold
Just imagine,Cena in a suit gloating how he played all the fans with his rap gimmick in order to get them behind him and get their money on merchandise,he would then go back to wrestling in proper gear and being a cocky ******* champion who bumps a lot and sneaks wins


BTW non of that will happen b/c Flair will leave WM22 with the belt

 

[Sabretooth]

Cena doesn't need to change his gimmick. It's the reason he's even in the main event. It's just that WWE ****ed him out and made him from a badass,cocky rapper to a hip hop Superman. If Triple H goes over at WM22 they need to ditch having their feud go on past that and put Cena in the mid card. The next night after Wrestlemania Cena can come out and open the show and say something about how the fans can kiss his ass and that they turned their backs on him so he doesn't care about them anymore.

After this,he can start a feud with a face that can help get Cena over as a heel and make him look good in matches (please be RVD please be RVD) and Cena can go back to his raps. And his raps should be good,as in not have stupid gay jokes in them. The thing is they know what makes Cena click and they've got that part down,so they need to let him say what he wants to say. So,it won't take long for him to get over with the fans again.

 

[The Batman]

Cena needs to write his own raps again. Thats when he was edgy, and...actually funny. when he ripped Lesnar's mom, it was hilarious. Now, his characters not even about raps. It's Hulk Hogan part two now, right down to the limited wrestling. He needs to get his ass whooped too. If he goes up against someone like kurt angle, he needs to struggle through the match to beat him, not superman his way through everything.

 

[TheVileOne]

How interesting it is that its only against HHH that Cena's opponent is given a strong and dissecting promo over Cena, making Cena look like a chump.

This is how much Cena sucks, its made smart and marks a like want to see HHH of all people beat him for the world title. Then what happens? World title is back in the void of HHH's terror once again.

 

[Hunter Rider]

How interesting it is that its only against HHH that Cena's opponent is given a strong and dissecting promo over Cena, making Cena look like a chump.

This is how much Cena sucks, its made smart and marks a like want to see HHH of all people beat him for the world title. Then what happens? World title is back in the void of HHH's terror once again.

Not to mention the lopsided nature of it,HHH was basically shooting on Cena but Cena wasn't allowed to bring up Steph or Trips backstage power

 

[TheVileOne]

Not to mention the lopsided nature of it,HHH was basically shooting on Cena but Cena wasn't allowed to bring up Steph or Trips backstage power

Yup. Only Triple H is allowed to cut smarky comments against Cena. And that's why the fans are cheering for him.

It ticks me off that Triple H is getting this privilege and no one else really sees it.