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Eric Draven said:
He might. He's getting quite a few cheers, even during his feuds with Flair and Show. The WWE might be backed into too much of a corner to continue having Trips stay as a heel....
I don't think it really matters. His character is a much better heel, and if he turns face, he'll just be protecting his top face spot from guys like RVD, so it will be the same thing as his heel run, but with a worse character.
 
Sarge 2.0 said:
At least in WWE they had the feud with the Hardy Boyz and Edge and Christian to make up for the less than edgy characters. Now the feuds/matches TNA run are predictable and boring. :(

Yeah, but they were still bland-as-hell heels in WWE. They had to be watered-down. I mean they couldn't say the same **** they said in ECW. Similar to how they probably can't get Cena to say the same stuff he said two or three years ago now.....
 
Sarge 2.0 said:
I don't think it really matters. His character is a much better heel, and if he turns face, he'll just be protecting his top face spot from guys like RVD, so it will be the same thing as his heel run, but with a worse character.

He can still act pretty much like he normally does, it's just that Cena would act more like his old self, ripping into fans and everyone in general. I'm just saying that's something they should at least consider for WM 22 just to salvage this entire mess.
 
Eric Draven said:
Yeah, but they were still bland-as-hell heels in WWE. They had to be watered-down. I mean they couldn't say the same **** they said in ECW. Similar to how they probably can't get Cena to say the same stuff he said two or three years ago now.....
That happened to every ECW guy that wasn't RVD, unfortunately. :(

Look what they did to Raven, Tommy Dreamer, and the like. Boooring. :(

WWE should never have touched ECW or its wrestlers.
 
Eric Draven said:
Yeah, but they were still bland-as-hell heels in WWE. They had to be watered-down. I mean they couldn't say the same **** they said in ECW. Similar to how they probably can't get Cena to say the same stuff he said two or three years ago now.....
Yeah. Didn't the FCC tell him to crack down on his raps too?
 
Eric Draven said:
He can still act pretty much like he normally does, it's just that Cena would act more like his old self, ripping into fans and everyone in general. I'm just saying that's something they should at least consider for WM 22 just to salvage this entire mess.
If there is a double turn, who knows how it will turn out in the ensuing weeks...I mean, they've already got one strike from the whole taking the title off of Edge thing. If they screw up their second attempt at saving the title scene by turning Cena heel, they'll be scraping the bottom of the barrel. It could be kind of risky.
 
Sarge 2.0 said:
If there is a double turn, who knows how it will turn out in the ensuing weeks...I mean, they've already got one strike from the whole taking the title off of Edge thing. If they screw up their second attempt at saving the title scene by turning Cena heel, they'll be scraping the bottom of the barrel. It could be kind of risky.

It might be better than going into Wrestlemania with Cena as the face getting mercilessly booed while the heel of the match is getting cheered on, which might necessitate a double turn anyways ala the Hart-Austin match at WM13....
 
Eric Draven said:
It might be better than going into Wrestlemania with Cena as the face getting mercilessly booed while the heel of the match is getting cheered on, which might necessitate a double turn anyways ala the Hart-Austin match at WM13....
As long as they don't mess with the aftermath, I'll be all for it. If Cena says something to the effect of "**** all of you, I'm keeping my title!" and proceed to insult everyone and their mother for the next five months or so, I'll be happy
 
Sarge 2.0 said:
As long as they don't mess with the aftermath, I'll be all for it. If Cena says something to the effect of "**** all of you, I'm keeping my title!" and proceed to insult everyone and their mother for the next five months or so, I'll be happy

That's exactly what I want to hear off of Cena. Just turn his back on the fans. Say that the title means more to him than anything else.

Come to think of it, all this kind of reminds me of Hart-Austin. I mean Austin was the mega-heel before WM, but fans were cheering for him over Hart, who was the face at the time :D
 
Eric Draven said:
That's exactly what I want to hear off of Cena. Just turn his back on the fans. Say that the title means more to him than anything else.

Come to think of it, all this kind of reminds me of Hart-Austin. I mean Austin was the mega-heel before WM, but fans were cheering for him over Hart, who was the face at the time :D
Only difference is that Cena doesn't get cheered in Canada like Bret did.:p
 
Having him be the selfish champ is much better than this sad excuse for a babyface. Let's hope Vince finally gets his head out of his ass.
 
Sarge 2.0 said:
Having him be the selfish champ is much better than this sad excuse for a babyface. Let's hope Vince finally gets his head out of his ass.
Judging from last week's Raw,it seems all he cares about is his ass.:(
 
I don't even think he was in character...I think he really is that obsessed with having men kiss his ass. :(
 
Sarge 2.0 said:
Here's the article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Cena

Click the "Discussion" tab to see all the arguing going on.
WOW that night bringer guy is in denial,"you couldn't tell if they were booing" and I also heard the Cena Rocks" chants:eek:
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Also he needs cluing in on the fact that 5 moves of doom is NOT a compliment
 
The Techno Bat said:
I think that JBL has to win against Benoit, if not then Smackdown will have no real BIG TIME HEEL characters on there show with a great reputation. Now I am not saying I want JBL to win, but I think he will win for that very reason.

They have Randy Orton, Booker T, JBL.
 
Reading all this stuff about the dudley's in ecw reminds me how much I miss Joel Gertner.:( :up:
 
Credit: Pro Wrestling Torch

Last week it was being reported on WWE’s website that they had released Tank Tolland and Chad Wicks (The *****). It’s being said that the main reason they were released was because of a fight between Tolland and Wicks.

Reports indicate that Wicks were being constantly ribbed and hazed by a number of SmackDown! wrestlers including JBL, Chris Benoit and The Undertaker. Wicks handled the ribbing poorly, and he'd often complain about it, which lead to even more ribbing.

Tolland felt that Wicks' constant complaining would put their jobs in jeopardy. Just recently, the tag team partners had a physical altercation as Tolland punched Wicks. The fight put WWE management in a sticky situation because they couldn't possibly justify firing the wrestler who was punched and not the wrestler who did the punching. And thus, WWE decided to just release the both of them.

Tolland and Wicks will be going their separate ways on the indy scene.
 
hunter rider said:
WOW that night bringer guy is in denial,"you couldn't tell if they were booing" and I also heard the Cena Rocks" chants:eek:
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Also he needs cluing in on the fact that 5 moves of doom is NOT a compliment
Yeah, and he say's that I'm the one with a bias. :rolleyes::o
 
On Wikipedia: I hate those guys over there. I made an account and not two minutes later they banned me. All I did was fix some stuff and try to add a picture and edit the Chris Hero section, and some guy banned me and didn't even give a reason. They all must be friggin' Cena marks over there. :down

On Trips/Cena: I really think they need to salvage this whole thing by making it a double turn. At least, just for a little while. Let's face it, HHH is, and probably always will be the top heel on Raw until he decides to retire. I'm going to assume WWE really wants to keep Cena as one of their top guys, but in order to do that, they need to bring him back to the way he was. He can't be that way and be a face. So, I say what the hell, make Cena heel and have him turn his back on the fans so he can get some credibility, and have Trips go through a little face run as champ, before going heel again. That way, since they like Cena so much over there, they can have Trips as the eventual number one heel again, but only after Cena gets some big time heat, and have him be second or third heel to Edge.
 
Maybe Cena should be repackaged to a mix of his Prototype gimmick with the rapper. Can you imagine him doing the robot dance and rapping at the same time? :D
 
Sabretooth said:
This is what John Cena needs to go back to (WARNING: Possibly vulgar remarks in here,may not be the best thing to watch at work)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Uh61QVbii9U&search=John%20Cena



http://youtube.com/watch?v=1tH8uFwJtWQ&search=John%20Cena


http://youtube.com/watch?v=sgCldbHsCeI&search=John%20Cena

wow, i'm already a Cena mark again just from watching those videos. reminds me of the good times. the belt needs to come off him, he's at his best going after the belt.
or turn him heel and switch him to smackdown.
 
Bad Superman said:
Maybe Cena should be repackaged to a mix of his Prototype gimmick with the rapper. Can you imagine him doing the robot dance and rapping at the same time? :D

Don't give the WWE writers any ideas please. :(
 
Hey HR, do you have any KENTA singles (basically not tag matches)

Much thanks
 
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