X-Men: The Last Stand on DVD October 3

[La_She-Beast]

Lol I agree... what else, Juggernaut breaking into the mansion? Where did you get this info from? Sincerely it would've made much... interesting... unpredictable...

 

[Halcohol]

Lol I agree... what else, Juggernaut breaking into the mansion? Where did you get this info from? Sincerely it would've made much... interesting... unpredictable...

It's from the old Ain't it Cool News script review... I'll look back and try and find it, but I distinctly remember reading that.

 

[Avalanche]

It's from the old Ain't it Cool News script review... I'll look back and try and find it, but I distinctly remember reading that.

I thought the Mansion break in was something that came from Ricky.

 

[X-Maniac]

funny how when I just read this script again, all the scenes the guy mentions as the ones who could save the film (this one, the prison break, Rogue's dinamic role as she visits the brotherhood, Phoenix's rising showing all the energy and a floating Jean) didn't make the movie. I wonder if we had another director who didn't change those scenes we would get a better film...

Perhaps, but it was the pacing of the existing film that has 'harmed' it more than anything...

Let's look at these other scenes

1) Beast, Kitty and Iceman raid the cure lab - a good showcase of Beast's power, but is this what the X-Men would do? Would they raid the lab like criminals? This sounds like something the Brotherhood would do. And once they got a cure sample, how would they test it? What mutant would they test it on?

2) The prison break - this could have worked, but having the dramatic bridge scene in the middle of the movie is debatable. What happens after all the mutants are freed and run on to the bridge? Does Magneto fly them on the bridge to Washington and lower the bridge down into the middle of Washington? Very expensive to achieve!

3) Rogue visits Brotherhood - we have to ask why she would visit the Brotherhood meeting, what drives her to go there, away from the X-Men and the mansion... Would this make sense?

4) Phoenix rising - this should really have been scripted so all the X-Men saw it in all its glory, but they went for something more mysterious. I keep wondering if it would have worked if Jean emerged as good Phoenix, collapsed, was taken back to the mansion where Xavier put the blocks in there and then to help her cope with her new power, and when her power kept shorting out later she then grew angry about his control...

5) Juggernaut attack on mansion - well, we had a mansion raid in X2, so it is a little repetitive.... Might have worked, might not...

 

[flavio_lebeau]

Perhaps, but it was the pacing of the existing film that has 'harmed' it more than anything...

Let's look at these other scenes

1) Beast, Kitty and Iceman raid the cure lab - a good showcase of Beast's power, but is this what the X-Men would do? Would they raid the lab like criminals? This sounds like something the Brotherhood would do. And once they got a cure sample, how would they test it? What mutant would they test it on?

2) The prison break - this could have worked, but having the dramatic bridge scene in the middle of the movie is debatable. What happens after all the mutants are freed and run on to the bridge? Does Magneto fly them on the bridge to Washington and lower the bridge down into the middle of Washington? Very expensive to achieve!

3) Rogue visits Brotherhood - we have to ask why she would visit the Brotherhood meeting, what drives her to go there, away from the X-Men and the mansion... Would this make sense?

4) Phoenix rising - this should really have been scripted so all the X-Men saw it in all its glory, but they went for something more mysterious. I keep wondering if it would have worked if Jean emerged as good Phoenix, collapsed, was taken back to the mansion where Xavier put the blocks in there and then to help her cope with her new power, and when her power kept shorting out later she then grew angry about his control...

5) Juggernaut attack on mansion - well, we had a mansion raid in X2, so it is a little repetitive.... Might have worked, might not...

I agree with some points, except for Rogue and Phoenix Rising. No one will ever convince me that it's a good scene. Rogue, the same guy doesn't explain if she was visiting the Brotherhood because she was sick of the X-men or to spy. Sure, it has a chance of sucking hard if not written well. But it had a chance of being really good if written well.
About the prison break, we never saw the third act, so we can't say the masterpiece was act two. Heck, I consider the tornadoes scene in X2 to be its peak (action wise), and it was in act two, but doesnt' hurt the movie.
No, Magneto wouldn't fly the bridge to Washington, no need for sarcasm. But as Zak Penn himself explained, his army must have loads of Teleporters, and the easiest thing for Magneto is to get a plane. I can even picture all the Brotherhood singing and dancing "99 bottles of beer" led by Mags in the plane, while traveling.

As for the Juggernaut scene, I don't think it was in the script. I didn't read about this.

 

[La_She-Beast]

They even considered a Juggernaut scene?? I just made it up lol Yes, it could be repetitive but that depends on how it's handled. If it's written well, like you said flavio... and the same with the other scenes, if they don't insert mediocrity, then it could've come up quite convincing.

 

[flavio_lebeau]

Also, in the original script, the GG Bridge scene seems way more logical and intelligent, since Magneto DIDN'T have the most powerful mutant ever by his side yet. He had to takee= those mutants out, but he couldn't fly them out, or open the sea, or anything. The bridge seems logical for him to do.

It also makes me wonder what Phoenix would do in the third act. Zak said the second half of the movie is the battles they lost. I strongly think there is a lot more of Phoenix written in the script. The guy in the review says

And Phoenix is flying all crazy-like somewhere

Might be my crazy mind but, does anyone remember the concept arts of Phoenix walking on the streets, destroying cars and causing hell? Yeah, I think it would be a lot different if the script was followed a little more.

 

[X-Maniac]

I agree with some points, except for Rogue and Phoenix Rising. No one will ever convince me that it's a good scene. Rogue, the same guy doesn't explain if she was visiting the Brotherhood because she was sick of the X-men or to spy. Sure, it has a chance of sucking hard if not written well. But it had a chance of being really good if written well.
About the prison break, we never saw the third act, so we can't say the masterpiece was act two. Heck, I consider the tornadoes scene in X2 to be its peak (action wise), and it was in act two, but doesnt' hurt the movie.
No, Magneto wouldn't fly the bridge to Washington, no need for sarcasm. But as Zak Penn himself explained, his army must have loads of Teleporters, and the easiest thing for Magneto is to get a plane. I can even picture all the Brotherhood singing and dancing "99 bottles of beer" led by Mags in the plane, while traveling.

As for the Juggernaut scene, I don't think it was in the script. I didn't read about this.

It's difficult to know how these scenes might work without seeing them scripted and even filmed first.

In the original script for X1, Rogue was a former Brotherhood member who had joined the X-Men. Magneto needed Wolverine's metal skeleton to power the machine. And Rogue was the one to defeat Magneto. She first touched Mystique, knocking her cold and absorbing her metamorphic power, then morphed into Mystique and got close enough to Magneto to kiss him, thus knocking him out as well. As an alternative story, it works pretty well. Shame none of it saw the light of day in either movie. It made Rogue more powerful, more useful. Mind you, Storm was still sidelined in the original script (but Beast and Danger Room were in there).

 

[flavio_lebeau]

It's difficult to know how these scenes might work without seeing them scripted and even filmed first.

In the original script for X1, Rogue was a former Brotherhood member who had joined the X-Men. Magneto needed Wolverine's metal skeleton to power the machine. And Rogue was the one to defeat Magneto. She first touched Mystique, knocking her cold and absorbing her metamorphic power, then morphed into Mystique and got close enough to Magneto to kiss him, thus knocking him out as well. As an alternative story, it works pretty well. Shame none of it saw the light of day in either movie. It made Rogue more powerful, more useful. Mind you, Storm was still sidelined in the original script (but Beast and Danger Room were in there).

I read the original script

 

[PeRfEcT_StOrM]

does anyone have the script, the original one of course, of X3?

 

[3 Dev Adam]

does anyone have the script, the original one of course, of X3?

Yes.

 

[PeRfEcT_StOrM]

oh yea! can i have it?

 

[3 Dev Adam]

oh yea! can i have it?

Probably.

 

[PeRfEcT_StOrM]

.....can you PM it to me?

 

[flavio_lebeau]

All that I've ever heard of was the AICN script review. As far as I'm concerned, they never released the whole script.

 

[04nbod]

It's difficult to know how these scenes might work without seeing them scripted and even filmed first.

In the original script for X1, Rogue was a former Brotherhood member who had joined the X-Men. Magneto needed Wolverine's metal skeleton to power the machine. And Rogue was the one to defeat Magneto. She first touched Mystique, knocking her cold and absorbing her metamorphic power, then morphed into Mystique and got close enough to Magneto to kiss him, thus knocking him out as well. As an alternative story, it works pretty well. Shame none of it saw the light of day in either movie. It made Rogue more powerful, more useful. Mind you, Storm was still sidelined in the original script (but Beast and Danger Room were in there).

that doesn't seem as logical as what we got, plus rogue kissing magneto ewww. Was this the joss whedon script?

 

[X-Maniac]

that doesn't seem as logical as what we got, plus rogue kissing magneto ewww. Was this the joss whedon script?

No, it wasn't a Whedon script. Whedon came along at the last minute and wrote the Storm line. This was an early script. I kinda like it, it's closer to the comics; a nice alternative tht makes Rogue a little tougher.

 

[3 Dev Adam]

Already got the brazilian two-disc DVD. It's R1 AND R4 (I can scan the back cover for proof).

The only downside is that it doesn't have english subtitles, only portuguese and spanish ones.

 

[flavio_lebeau]

it was released today, right? I don't really know if I buy this ****...

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

No, it wasn't a Whedon script. Whedon came along at the last minute and wrote the Storm line. This was an early script. I kinda like it, it's closer to the comics; a nice alternative tht makes Rogue a little tougher.

The Rogue/Mystique & Magneto kiss would have been a bit awkward, but other than that, I do kind of like that version of the script. And it could have been done with just Rogue touching Magneto and draining him.

I dunno if it'd be better than what we got or not... but I do kind of like that idea.

 

[Jennifer Walters]

Where can one find the original script of X-Men? It sounds interesting.

 

[3 Dev Adam]

it was released today, right? I don't really know if I buy this ****...

Me, I LOVE X-Men 3.

 

[Boba_Fett_123]

Where can one find the original script of X-Men? It sounds interesting.

It's on iMSDB. It's a bit jarring, but it's interesting.

Does anyone have a link to the AICN script review? I'd like to read it in hindsight now. I'm still convinced the bridge scene should have stayed in the second act. How does the action top it in the third? Well, I'm sure Phoenix could find SOMETHING to do. Rip the Washington monument out of the ground, perhaps?

 

[La_She-Beast]

Me, I LOVE X-Men 3.

LOL



I mean, you were joking right?

 

[flavio_lebeau]

It's on iMSDB. It's a bit jarring, but it's interesting.

Does anyone have a link to the AICN script review? I'd like to read it in hindsight now. I'm still convinced the bridge scene should have stayed in the second act. How does the action top it in the third? Well, I'm sure Phoenix could find SOMETHING to do. Rip the Washington monument out of the ground, perhaps?

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