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I didn't realize X-Men beat DaVinci overseas:

June 20, 2006

'X-Men' stops 'Da Vinci' streak

More World Cup soccer and more sun continued to dent the overseas boxoffice, especially in Europe, but there were signs that the international market is stabilizing as audiences returned to multiplexes on days when the home team was not competing. In Italy, moviegoing was way down on Saturday when Italy played the U.S., but made a substantial recovery on Sunday. "People want some fresh movies," said a leading international distribution executive. As overall overseas business is estimated to have dropped some 25% to 30% over the weekend, Sony's "The Da Vinci Code," seeking a fifth straight week as the No. 1 offshore boxoffice draw, was narrowly beaten to the top by Fox's "X-Men: The Last Stand," now in its fourth overseas round. "X-Men" tallied $14.6 million from 6,271 screens in 65 markets, while "Da Vinci," after a recount of a Sunday estimate of $15.2 million, settled for $14.2 million from 7,600 screens in 85 markets. (Hy Hollinger) FULL STORY
 
Milkman95 said:
Courtesy of TerryRL - second weekend percentage drops:

#1 "Batman" (1989) -30%
#2 "Spider-Man" (2002) -37%
#3 "Batman Begins" (2005) -43%
#4 "Batman Returns" (1995) -44.3%
#5 "Batman Forever" (1992) -44.7%
#6 "Spider-Man 2" (2004) -48%
#7 "X2: X-Men United" (2003) -53%
#8 "Daredevil" (2003) -55%
#9 "X-Men" (2000) -56%
#10 "Fantastic Four" (2005) -59%
#11 "Batman & Robin" (1997) -63%
#12 "X-Men: The Last Stand" (2006) -67%
#13 "Hulk" (2003) -69%

Except X3 you're comparing a Sunday before a holiday to movies that had regular 3 day weekends on average. Not fair. You have to compare X3's Fri,Sat, & Mon #'s to any movies Fri-Sun #'s that didn't open on a holiday weekend. X3's sunday will be inflated cause Monday was a holiday.
 
And it's crazy to compare anything past 5 years ago, considering how much the industry has changed since then.

"Cars" dropped nearly 50% this weekend too. "DaVinci" has been dropping steadily since it's opening weekend. Are they all flops too?
 
^ Once you get to before broadband then it becomes more difficult because of the ease it created in downloading, piracy, online gaming, etc...The entertainment field is leveled.
 
On the other hand, the strength and importance of foreign markets has grown considerably, and most current films make much more overseas than films from ten to twenty years ago.
 
^ Oh sure that's 100% true but that's a whole different market that's still growing at a very fast. The US market is shrinking in the # of overall theatres but expanding the # of megaplexes with 20-40 screens instead of a couple of 5 or 10 screen theaters. Hell there's a town called Ontario in CA that has more screens than you can imagine. At one mall there's like 45+ and outside the mall there's one two more megaplexes. LOL
 
Book of profits
Global B.O. heaven for 'Da Vinci'

By DAVE MCNARY


'The Da Vinci Code'

Numbers reported Monday had Fox's 'X-Men: The Last Stand' beating out 'The Da Vinci Code' at the foreign box office over the weekend:


"The Da Vinci Code" is now venturing into "Titanic""Titanic" territory.
Foreign gross has hit $479.1 million, representing 71% of the worldwide total of $678 million.

Those numbers place "Code" on the verge of passing "Forrest Gump""Forrest Gump" as the top-grossing drama after James CameronJames Cameron's blockbuster.

Sony reported Monday that "Code" finished its fifth weekend with $14.2 million at 7,800 playdates overseas, declining 35% from the previous frame. The figure -- $1 million off Sunday's estimate -- left Fox's "X-Men: The Last Stand" as the weekend's winner with $14.6 million at 6,271 engagements and ended the religious thriller's foreign box office win streak at four weekends.

While "X-Men 3" generated half its weekend gross from launches in South Korea and Taiwan, "Code" managed to show impressive staying power despite its lack of action plus the massive distraction of three World Cup matches per day.

The performance also validates Sony execs' belief that "Code" could serve as effective counterprogramming during the surfeit of soccer games, tapping into the female adult audience that is often the final quadrant to go see films. Pic's grossed nearly $50 million in foreign markets since the World Cup matches started June 9 even though it had already been open for three weeks.

"Code" bizbiz has stayed particularly strong in Japan, declining less than 30% each weekend to reach $63 million -- by far the best mark among foreign markets.

Though Japan's the largest international territory, studios often find it's a daunting task to connect with moviegoers there. Mark Zucker, President of Sony Pictures Intl. Releasing, cited the absence of religious controversy in Japan over Dan Brown's novel plus an extensive promopromo campaign that launched over the New Year's holiday as key factors.

"Japan can be difficult, but it will support big films," Zucker added.

"Code" also managed to gross at least $1 million in four soccer-obsessed European markets -- the U.K., Germany, France and Spain. BlightyBlighty cume has hit $51 million, while German receipts have eclipsed $43 million.

Meanwhile, the "X-Men""X-Men" sequel has cumed $181 million overseas so far.

Extraordinary overseas grosses for "Da Vinci" far outshine its solid domestic perfperf, which was on the verge of hitting $200 million Monday. Pic is only the second to hit that mark this year amid several disappointing summer tentpoles such as "Mission: Impossible III," "Poseidon" and "Over the Hedge." Only "X-Men: the Last Stand" has done better, cuming $216 million. Marvel superhero sequel is likely to keep that lead, at least until "Superman Returns" and "Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest" open.

With the weekend gross coming in $2.5 million higher than estimates at $33.7 million, Disney's PixarPixar toontoon "Cars" has now hit $117 million domestic. Its 44% second weekend drop is the biggest for any Pixar toon excluding those that opened over Thanksgiving and means "Cars" is on track to be only the No. 5 Pixar toon of all time, likely ending up ahead of the original "Toy Story""Toy Story" ($192 million) but behind "Toy Story 2""Toy Story 2" ($246 million).

http://www.variety.com
 
obeastdyke said:
so X-men did beat Davinci this week then or last I should say. Good for it.

x-3 $378.5 tDC $677.7

The eyes of the beholder I guess...
 
danoyse said:
And it's crazy to compare anything past 5 years ago, considering how much the industry has changed since then.

"Cars" dropped nearly 50% this weekend too. "DaVinci" has been dropping steadily since it's opening weekend. Are they all flops too?

Good point. It's not ALL because they are crappy movies. It's the economy, and other things. It's easy to blame big drops on the quality of movies. But there are so many other factors involved. And it happens to good, and bad movies. Some movies benefit from the fact that it has no real competion at the theater for 2 or 3 weeks, ( see BB ), but those are few and far between. FF had to deal with WC, AND CATCF, its 2nd weekend. So yea, was it because FF was a crappy movie that they had a big drop ? NO. Competition. Same with X-Men, and it will be the same with SR. Da Vinci had a 56 % drop it's 2nd weekend. And when SR drops, will it be because SR is a bad movie ? Not necessarly, just the way things are today. Da Vinci has made close to 700 million, but look at the #'s. 29.3 % domestic, 70.7 % overseas. MI-3, 39 % domestic, 61 % overseas. Overseas #'s carry many movies.
 
Carp Man said:
Good point. It's not ALL because they are crappy movies. It's the economy, and other things. It's easy to blame big drops on the quality of movies. But there are so many other factors involved. And it happens to good, and bad movies. Some movies benefit from the fact that it has no real competion at the theater for 2 or 3 weeks, ( see BB ), but those are few and far between. FF had to deal with WC, AND CATCF, its 2nd weekend. So yea, was it because FF was a crappy movie that they had a big drop ? NO. Competition. Same with X-Men, and it will be the same with SR. Da Vinci had a 56 % drop it's 2nd weekend. And when SR drops, will it be because SR is a bad movie ? Not necessarly, just the way things are today. Da Vinci has made close to 700 million, but look at the #'s. 29.3 % domestic, 70.7 % overseas. MI-3, 39 % domestic, 61 % overseas. Overseas #'s carry many movies.

Ya and F4 had to deal with WOTW. CATCF had simliar demography as F4 that is why it dropped 59% on second weekend.
But F4 did do well overseas ($175million) even with heavy competetion like WOTW, Madagascar, Mr. and Ms. Smith, BB and CATCF.

X3 not doing well overseas is the franchise's weakness. Can't do much about it. X3 does has potential to do more overseas compared to domestic depending on how it holds in South Korea and Taiwan and other countries before it releases in Japan.
 
Advanced Dark said:
Except X3 you're comparing a Sunday before a holiday to movies that had regular 3 day weekends on average. Not fair. You have to compare X3's Fri,Sat, & Mon #'s to any movies Fri-Sun #'s that didn't open on a holiday weekend. X3's sunday will be inflated cause Monday was a holiday.

This is the second weekend numbers for these films, which was not a Holiday weekend for X3. It's a fair comparison.
 
Angry Sentinel... is that sentinel pic in your avatar the one where the Sentinel becomes a fully sentient acrobatic warrior who ultimately fights for good but then doesn't like the fact that Sethu has arrived to push the fundamental point of Avalon in the world... the EARTH?
 
Advanced Dark said:
I didn't realize X-Men beat DaVinci overseas:
Da Vinci Code is still massively more successful overseas though. It's gross is double that of X3.
 
CapBeerCino said:
x-3$378.5 tDC $677.7

The eyes of the beholder I guess...

Hold on X3 made $216 million in the US and $181 million overseas so that = $397 million worldwide!
 
Milkman95 said:
This is the second weekend numbers for these films, which was not a Holiday weekend for X3. It's a fair comparison.

You don't get my point. I'm saying when you figure how much X3 declined from week 1 to week 2 you should compare fri,sat,mon from week 1 against fri-sun of week 2 to figure the % decline of X3. Because the sun in week one was prior to a holiday.
 
X3 is a 3rd movie, we cant expect like double what X2 did...lots of people, including my brohter, deceived of seeing the movie because he thought he wouldnt understand anything. Lots of people think the same, then dont watch the movie. If we have a bigger box office, its great, more people got into the franchise, but we could never expect X3 to be an extreme hit, just because its a sequel, unlike some movies like DVC which requires no previous knowleddge...mho...i already consider X3 VERY successfull
 
BMM said:
I agree that it is rather difficult to compare tickets, etc. via the two different market places, but half of those reasons are ridiculous . . . megaplexes and giant malls . . . as if they didn't have large malls or theaters in the 1970s . . . and believe it or not, people were satisfied with the televsion programs they received before MTV, cable, satellite TV, TIVO, etc. It's not as though television didn't influence people's decisions to not go to the movies in the 1970s either . . . and the same can be said for video games as well . . . again, society did function without these things at one point in time, and maintained equal distractions in the place of video games, etc . . . and I don't know what is with the last example. It's not as though The Last Stand (or any movie) has ever faced a line-up like that . . . regardless, there was, and always has been, vast competition between films--this is not new.

Piracy is a much more legitimate problem than the vast majority of those examples, as it is actually an issue that wasn't present during the 1970s, nor was there anything really comparable to it. Regardless, piracy alone does not account for certain disparities . . . most notably those in the population difference.

If you want a topic that really highlights the disparity between the number of people available to go to the movies in the 1970s vs. 2000+ . . . here's one for you--the population. The world population has more than doubled since the 1970s. At that time, the world population comprised of 3.5-4.5 billion people. Whereas now, the world population has more than doubled maintaining over 9 billion people . . . that allows for a lot more people to go see movies today than 30 years ago.


Inflation is bogus . . . That's probably one of the dumbest things I've ever heard . . .



On a side-note, why are we even discussing Batman Begins v. Fantastic Four? How is this even an issue? Batman Begins was a better movie. Critics, fans, and non-fans actually liked Batman Begins . . . and as a result it did better via the box office. Not much to compare. Case closed.

Can't believe no-one commented on this. The world population is around 6,5 billion.
 
According to SBD, Monday's number for X3 is $ 910,000 (ranked # 7, 65% drop from Sunday). That puts the domestic total at $ 217.129 million.
 
oh great...its dropping so fast...do you think it'll be outa the top 10 by friday?
 
GL's Light said:
According to SBD, Monday's number for X3 is $ 910,000 (ranked # 7, 65% drop from Sunday). That puts the domestic total at $ 217.129 million.


Well it looks like this will be the Last Stand.
 

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