X3 Box Office Tracker

[Visionary]

I'm glad to see X3 cross the 400M mark worldwide. It still has Japan which could add another 10M to 20M to its tally.

 

[Fanticon]

someone somewhere else on the boards or in this thread said that the release date in Japan in September is going to hurt it because of the amount of pirating of the movie on various formats that will take place between now and then...and in the asian markets is where a lot of that takes place...it should have been released the same week imo. So its potential will be cut not quite in half but close to it?

 

[obeastdyke]

Japan should add around 30 million. 10 millon wtf that is way too low for Japan.

 

[Avalanche]

SORRY that is NEVER going to happen!!!

Once the rights for all comic based movies expire at FOX. I would like either SONY to take some from fox or MARVEL should make their own movies.

Ya i kinda agree FOX sucks.

The franchises they have, have a lot of potential but they screw it up.

Oh well... I will support all MARVEL movies.

Stop SHOUTING.

You don't get your point across ANY BETTER.

And the Superman Returns hate is getting very tiresome.

 

[ProductionMusic]

MARVEL should make their own movies

Which is what will happen. Marvel will not be dependent on other Studio's anymore

 

[antariksh]

Japan should add around 30 million. 10 millon wtf that is way too low for Japan.

go to BOM and see how much X1 and X2 did in japan.

Infact X2 did less than X1. LOL

 

[Milkman95]

X3, like many have said, could have been A LOT bigger if they would have handled the production with more care. There was no reason to rush X3 out for this summer - the audience was built-in already, and it would have had the same opening weekend it had in another release date.

SR probably won't open as big, but it should go on to gross more since it looks to be an epic adventure that has something for everybody - it seems critics agree so far as well.

 

[danoyse]

X3, like many have said, could have been A LOT bigger if they would have handled the production with more care. There was no reason to rush X3 out for this summer - the audience was built-in already, and it would have had the same opening weekend it had in another release date.

Exactly...that huge weekend was based on the strength of the first two movies.

Again, I enjoyed X3, but it was clear that Fox meddled far too much in the production--and in the series as whole.

Superman, if it's as good as they say...will be very big. And I hope it is, Superman is due for a good movie series again.

 

[antariksh]

Exactly...that huge weekend was based on the strength of the first two movies.

Again, I enjoyed X3, but it was clear that Fox meddled far too much in the production--and in the series as whole.

Superman, if it's as good as they say...will be very big. And I hope it is, Superman is due for a good movie series again.

Ya SR can succeed if it wants BUT i don't want it to beat spider-man and spider-man 2 both domestic and worldwide boxoffice

 

[Advanced Dark]

go to BOM and see how much X1 and X2 did in japan.

Infact X2 did less than X1. LOL

Cause X2 long, unfocused, and a bit slow moving for the average moviegoer. The kind of stuff we as fans eat up. The average moviegoer enjoyed X3 more than 1 or 2, as they also liked FF. It's two different groups. The average moviegoer and the comic fan/moviegoer. The latter being the one that really boosts opening weekends on these type of films if the buzz is hot.

 

[Advanced Dark]

Ya SR can succeed if it wants BUT i don't want it to beat spider-man and spider-man 2 both domestic and worldwide boxoffice

Superman won't beat Spiderman 1 or 2 domestic but I could see International possibly...maybe in a long shot but the marketplace is so conjested now so it's doubtful. Spiderman 3 however should beat it's prior films thanks to more action and more villains.

 

[NateGray]

Cause X2 long, unfocused, and a bit slow moving for the average moviegoer. The kind of stuff we as fans eat up. The average moviegoer enjoyed X3 more than 1 or 2, as they also liked FF. It's two different groups. The average moviegoer and the comic fan/moviegoer. The latter being the one that really boosts opening weekends on these type of films if the buzz is hot.

Exactly the average movie goer who goes to see comic book films does so treating them like an action flick and get weary of deep plots and slow moving stories hence why I tend to agree with you that the average movie goer enjoyed X3 more than 1 or 2.
I hope SR does not have problems with the average movie goer for that reason, A 2 hours and 37minutes running time can scare alot of the average movie goers away from comic book films depending on how the story is accepted Hulk comes to mind here.
In BB it worked for SR we shall have to wait and see in 5 more days.

 

[NateGray]

Superman won't beat Spiderman 1 or 2 domestic but I could see International possibly...maybe in a long shot but the marketplace is so conjested now so it's doubtful. Spiderman 3 however should beat it's prior films thanks to more action and more villains.

See and with it being released at the height of the WC I think that could hurt its oversea's numbers badly.
We shall have to wait and see 5 more days.

 

[GreenKToo]

I wouldnt say it wont beat spidey 1 or 2.it is possible,maybe not opening weekend,but domestic.over 95% of the reviews are very positive,and once w.o.m gets out,who knows what could happen.

 

[BMM]

Cause X2 long, unfocused, and a bit slow moving for the average moviegoer. The kind of stuff we as fans eat up. The average moviegoer enjoyed X3 more than 1 or 2, as they also liked FF. It's two different groups. The average moviegoer and the comic fan/moviegoer. The latter being the one that really boosts opening weekends on these type of films if the buzz is hot.

. . . Considering X2 is rated higher than The Last Stand via the general consensus in every public poll, rating, and review system, I somehow doubt the average moviegoer enjoyed The Last Stand more than X2 . . . and so long as a movie is good, time doesn't appear to be an issue concerning the average moviegoer either. 8 of the top 10 grossing movies of all time are over two hours long--and with the exception of children's movies, (Shrek, Finding Nemo, The Lion King, Home Alone, The Incredibles, Monster's Inc., etc.), and a few others, every other movie among the top 40 grossing movies of all time are 2+ hours long . . . not to mention that the #1 grossing movie is over 3 hours long.

I think The Last Stand, as noted by Ratner, speaks to short attention spans and the ability of a studio to hype a movie . . . but I would hardly make the implication that it is enjoyed simply because the average movie goer shies away from length . . . X2's remaining acclaim and the box office certainly demonstrate otherwise.

 

[Advanced Dark]

^ Public poll? LMAO those are all in comic book fan forums. That's what I'm saying everyone I know (who's not into comic books) liked X3 the most. I'm into comics and I liked it the most. I thought it was the most fun and the most exciting chapter. It's also selling more tickets even after inflation.

 

[crappymovie]

. . . Considering X2 is rated higher than The Last Stand via the general consensus in every public poll, rating, and review system, I somehow doubt the average moviegoer enjoyed The Last Stand more than X2 . . . and so long as a movie is good, time doesn't appear to be an issue concerning the average moviegoer either. 8 of the top 10 grossing movies of all time are over two hours long--and with the exception of children's movies, (Shrek, Finding Nemo, The Lion King, Home Alone, The Incredibles, Monster's Inc., etc.), and a few others, every other movie among the top 40 grossing movies of all time are 2+ hours long . . . not to mention that the #1 grossing movie is over 3 hours long.

I think The Last Stand, as noted by Ratner, speaks to short attention spans and the ability of a studio to hype a movie . . . but I would hardly make the implication that it is enjoyed simply because the average movie goer shies away from length . . . X2's remaining acclaim and the box office certainly demonstrate otherwise.

Well said. As you mentioned, I agree that although X3 may have been an enjoyable film, people can hardly make the generalization that the general public like X3 more than X2 because critics, polls etc., all rank X2 above X3. So, I guess you can look at box office then? But, X2 had smaller drops, even when faced with the Matrix Reloaded. I doubt X3 would have even made $200 million had Superman Returns opened in it's third weekend.

 

[BMM]

^ Public poll? LMAO those are all in comic book fan forums. That's what I'm saying everyone I know (who's not into comic books) liked X3 the most. I'm into comics and I liked it the most. I thought it was the most fun and the most exciting chapter. It's also selling more tickets even after inflation.

I am not simply talking about public polls found in comic book fan forums (I am not that narrow sighted) . . . I'm talking about critical reviews, non-critical reviews, fan reviews, non-fan reviews, internet polls, magazine polls, and most importantly general ratings (which have nothing to do with polls or comparing a movie to its predecessor--The Last Stand still ranks below X2 in so far as ranking the general quality of the movie, and in some cases it ranks below X-Men). It should be selling more tickets . . . The Last Stand made 47% of its sales in its first four days thanks to heavy anticaption, which I'm sure had nothing to do with how well the previous film was received (I'm being sarcastic of course).

 

[GL's Light]

I think it's fair to say that X2 dramatically expanded the fanbase of the X-Men franchise, and that expanded fanbase turned out for X3's opening weekend, but X3 wasn't a strong enough film to capitalise on that momentum and further expand the fanbase. Adjusted for inflation it'll end up selling about the same number of tickets as X2. Certainly a success, but it could've been an even bigger success had it fired on all cylinders, rather than being just a reasonably enjoyable film.

 

[crappymovie]

I am not simply talking about public polls found in comic book fan forums (I am not that narrow sighted) . . . I'm talking about critical reviews, non-critical reviews, fan reviews, non-fan reviews, internet polls, magazine polls, and most importantly general ratings (which have nothing to do with polls or comparing a movie to its predecessor--The Last Stand still ranks below X2 in so far as ranking the general quality of the movie, and in some cases it ranks below X-Men). It should be selling more tickets . . . The Last Stand made 47% of its sales in its first four days thanks to heavy anticaption, which I'm sure had nothing to do with how well the previous film was received.

X-Men had a multiplier of 2.89
X2 had a multiplier of 2.5
X3 has a 2.13, will end up at MOST with a 2.34, factor in the extra holiday day, and you're at a 1.97 multiplier.

X2's legs got cut short because of the Matrix, but what about X3? Perhaps "all films have short legs these days?" But wait...didn't Batman Begins have a 4.21 multiplier just last year? or more importantly, Star Wars III had a 3.5? Wouldn't the fans have frontloaded these openings as well? But maybe, because they weren't disappointments, people came back to watch them.

But I guess you could say the same of X2 because of it's short legs. I just wish Superman had opened earlier so we could have done a better comparison of X2 and X3....

 

[Advanced Dark]

^ How could it. It was the final chapter that tied everything together from the first 2 films and it's being touted as the "last film" which I think was a mistake. It was fun, it was exciting, it did it's job...now we move onto the character study of Wolverine. It's all fun stuff. Nobody should take this stuff too seriously.

It's like half the board members here are like Kathy Bates in Misery and they want Brett Ratner and Tom Rothman tied up in a bed with broken legs. LOL

 

[crappymovie]

I think it's fair to say that X2 dramatically expanded the fanbase of the X-Men franchise, and that expanded fanbase turned out for X3's opening weekend, but X3 wasn't a strong enough film to capitalise on that momentum and further expand the fanbase. Adjusted for inflation it'll end up selling about the same number of tickets as X2. Certainly a success, but it could've been an even bigger success had it fired on all cylinders, rather than being just a reasonably enjoyable film.

I agree. I think we can all say, the film was a success. But it had the potential to be the great end to the trilogy, aka Return of the King, but it preformed more like Batman Forever. A good movie, just not great, and thus it preformed slightly better than it's predecessor. Not an iconic film that could've gotten to $300 million, or even $250 million.

 

[Advanced Dark]

Unfortunately the attention span of the average moviegoer that X3 was targeted at wouldn't sit in an X-Men film for 3 hours. LOL

 

[crappymovie]

Unfortunately the attention span of the average moviegoer that X3 was targeted at wouldn't sit in an X-Men film for 3 hours. LOL

haha maybe so. But I always thought of the X-franchise public as a bit more "mature." I mean, X2 doesn't have the same tone as Spider-man. I think it's a little darker, and a little more cerebral. So we COULD have gotten a 2 1/2 hour film (it's 95% likely after seeing the running time for Superman Returns), but instead we got a film that played out like an episode from the cartoon.

It didn't have to be mind-numbingly long, just had to have that "epic tone." A little longer, a little more emphasis on characters, and a big finale.

...btw, ever wonder why Phoenix was standing around while the X-Men fought the soldiers, etc. and just watched. What was she doing before she decided to de-molecularize everyone? Maybe, someone got some blood on her costume and she thought, "That's it, these *****es are gonna get it?"....It's moments like that, that made the film so anti-climactic and shoddy.

 

[BMM]

X-Men had a multiplier of 2.89

X2 had a multiplier of 2.5

X3 has a 2.13, will end up at MOST with a 2.34, factor in the extra holiday day, and you're at a 1.97 multiplier.



X2's legs got cut short because of the Matrix, but what about X3? Perhaps "all films have short legs these days?" But wait...didn't Batman Begins have a 4.21 multiplier just last year? or more importantly, Star Wars III had a 3.5? Wouldn't the fans have frontloaded these openings as well? But maybe, because they weren't disappointments, people came back to watch them . . .

Yep. I agree, especially regarding Batman Begins . . . people tend to underestimate quality anymore . . . the better films endure in the minds of moviegoers--quality makes a lasting impression.