Year One's only flaw...

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At the end after Gordon says he's practically blind without his glasses,

When Bruce is walking away from Barbra and Gordon- Barbra should say, " Jim isn't that Bru.."
Jim quickly replies, " No Barb, it's Batman!"


That would it make it five time better than the first 12 issues of Ennis' Punisher.
 
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Hell no.

See my sig for the real Year One.

Frank Miller embellished Batman's beginnings. I like what Frank Miller said in Amazing Heroes #102, "Denny (O'Neil) and I agreed that it wasn't necessary to start Batman over. To scrap decades of continuity, because the character didn't need it. You might say that the first issue of 'Batman: Year One' takes place between the panels of the old 'Batman: Who He Is And How He Came To Be' in Detective #33 and Batman #1, and the rest of the 'Batman: Year One' series takes place between that and the first story in Detective #27. There has to be a certain flexibility about continuity, or continuity becomes a burdensome monster. There are some continuity changes but I'm doing nothing that violates major aspects of continuity. I'm embellishing his beginnings."
 
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Only problem was the ****es lol.

Selina Kyle as a hooker / dominatrix?

Yes.

That's one of the best parts. And I love how Frank Miller payed homage to Bill Finger and early Batman artists by naming the Gotham City locations after them. Robinson Park is named after Batman artist Jerry Robinson, Finger Memorial is named after Batman co-creator and writer Bill Finger who died in 1974, and the Sprang Mission is named after Batman artist Dick Sprang.
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Catwoman always seemed like a Dominatrix with a whip (which Catwoman first appeared with way back in 1946), Frank Miller naturally expanded upon this. She was a woman who gets paid by men to whip them. Professional dominants do not engage in any form of sexual contact with their paying customers. She's seen holding a whip as a man she calls Skunk says "Selina...don't stop now." She has her clothes on as we see in the very next panel. She was a Dominatrix. She's all decked out in Dominatrix gear including hand cuffs and whip. The stereotyped image of a Dominatrix is of a woman wearing rubber or leather and thigh-length boots with high heels, exactly what Selina is wearing in Batman Year One. Men seeking a Dominatrix are not seeking sex. But to satisfy there s & m fetish to be dominated, bound and whipped and degraded. It's a far more believable origin for Catwoman than an amnesiac flight attendant. Dominatrix's exist. Prostitutes exist. Corruption exists. Miller doesn't sugar coat it. In fact urban crime, corruption and femme fatales/ladies of the evening are classic noir archetypes.
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Miller's use of violence and sexual themes is in the nature of the Pulps. Batman has his roots in the noir-styled Pulps, particularly The Shadow. Batman is the essence of noir. He is rather cynical and sneering in mood and often dealing melodramatically with urban crime and corruption.
I love it when Batman beats up Stan. And this scene also displays why Batman needs the bat costume. Without that element of fear and intimidation they don't hesitate to attack.
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It's great to see Selina display her cat-like characteristics with the hiss. And showing fighting skills.
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Later inspired by Batman's Bat-costumed vigilantism, and seeking new thrills, Selena knocks out Stan (awesome) and buys a Cat-costume and becomes Catwoman, a jewel thief (as Catwoman was in the Finger and Kane stories).
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She steals Loeb's collection of pop memorabilia valued at forty thousand dollars and it was funny - she though he'd have jewels - not just old Disney and Charles Schulz cartoon stuff.
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Frank Miller expanded and updated Catwoman, making her more real than she ever was before. Miller and David Mazzucchelli also gave her a much better costume than the purple dress and green cape.
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you don't have to spell everything out.

It, isn't spelling out that Gordon knows the truth, It re-affirming that Batman is beyond the realm of a secret identity.
He is vengeance, heis the night, HE IS THE GODDAMN BATMAN!!!

Also Kyle as BDSM technician is fits with the whole Travis Bickle'ness that Batman speaks too.

People keep on revisiting Batman's initial war on crime, first it speaks too the urge one feels to go totally Bernie Goetz. Second reason is: after he started fighting his "rogues gallery" he was essential rendered impotent due to his one rule.
 
Yes, and Batman should also stab bald man with his connector plug.

(well, today they use wireless connections :hehe: Wonder if that's in the remake)
 
In the mind of Frank Miller women could only be victims, hookers or femme fatales.

Well, honestly, what other types of women are there?! :cmad:




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At the end after Gordon says he's practically blind without his glasses,

When Bruce is walking away from Barbra and Gordon- Barbra should say, " Jim isn't that Bru.."
Jim quickly replies, " No Barb, it's Batman!"


That would it make it five time better than the first 12 issues of Ennis' Punisher.

Hahaha, what? :huh:
 
I know that part I am just trying to wrap my mind around the added dialogue. I enjoy the drops in the Bat books over the years where Jim Gordon pretty much suspects that Bruce Wayne is Batman but never truly comes out and acknowledges it. It leaves a little more to the imagination.
 
At the end after Gordon says he's practically blind without his glasses,

When Bruce is walking away from Barbra and Gordon- Barbra should say, " Jim isn't that Bru.."
Jim quickly replies, " No Barb, it's Batman!"


That would it make it five time better than the first 12 issues of Ennis' Punisher.

......Jim has always chosen not to look into the clues. We all know he isn't stupid.

He has a great deal of respect for Batman's secret identity. I believe there even was a story where Batman tries to show him and he looks away and gives him his reason for not wanting to know.

But whoever said that continuity shouldn't have been rebooted for year one is right. It just makes things confusing.
 
If there's any faults with Year One, I would say it's the end with Jim meeting Batman. It feels incomplete, like missing a panel or a page with Batman appearing
 
It was during NML that Batman tried to show Gordon he was Bruce, but Gordon refused to look because Batman can never receive gratitude or acknowledgement for his heroism on a inter-personal level.

The addition of dialog definitively states the above fact, and his a nice badass'ness about it.
 
If there's any faults with Year One, I would say it's the end with Jim meeting Batman. It feels incomplete, like missing a panel or a page with Batman appearing

I'm glad you phrased it as an 'if'. Honestly, I think Year One is perfect. I wouldn't change a panel or a line of dialogue.
 
Dark Knight Returns makes it clear that Gordon knew from the start that Bruce Wayne is Batman. He wasn't fooled by the playboy routine.
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Gordon and Sarah Essen figured it out in Year One.
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They wouldn't reveal he's secret identity to the public because Gordon came to realize that Gotham needs Batman.
 
By Gordon verbally acknowledging that there is no Bruce Wayne, there is only Batman- it brings Gordon full circle.
Gordon's arc has him becoming morally purified by Batman.
 

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