"You Stopped Me Once. You Won't stop me again!" - Rhys Ifans Returns As The Lizard

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  1. CadeSkywalker28 Registered

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    Of course.
     
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    Too bad Lizard didn't get transported to the MCU when he was wearing the labcoat. Don't mind the snoutless face as it looks a little like the Ditko version but the labcoat would've made a big difference aesthetically speaking.
     
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    Exactly. The movie used recycled footage from the past movies for Lizard and Sandman

    Sharp eyed Marvel fans can easily pick out Marvel's sneakiness. Don't let them fool you.
     
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    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again….

    The treatment of Sandman and Lizard this time around was just flat out criminal. A massive Hollywood blockbuster using recycled footage…
     
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    Yeah... They could easily gave them dialogues that say something about them, their past and motives instead of cheap quips.
     
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    The reused footage from TASM was a little less recognizable than the SM3 footage. But they were both awkward since neither of them said anything after being cured and it did show something was a little off.
     
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  7. TheWallCrawler hero or a menace?

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    Found this unused design from the tv-show Grimm. It looks pretty great, minus the ear obviously
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    Same basic idea as the TASM Lizard design, except fiercer. I never thought that the lack of snout was the main issue, they could've easily made it work without.
     
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    I have never had an issue with the Lizards design. and im glad they kept it for No Way Home. But i will say the CGI on the Lizard was abit of a step-down. Especially in the prison scenes.
     
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  9. pr0xyt0xin Shaper Savant

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    I'm honestly super peeved that they didnt give him a fricken lab coat.

    Like... Seems like a huge F U to Todd Macfarlane. Two appearances of a character he practically made and they couldnt pay homage to that imagery one time.

    There was literally a perfect scene when they were all working on villain cures and he could have helped but he "stayed in the van" -_-
     
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    Apparently there was a deleted scene with Dr Strange figuring out something is wrong, and teleporting himself into a dark sewer. Shot abit like a horror movie. where he has a brief fight with the Lizard who scratches him around the face. I read you can still see the scratch in the film after he teleports peter away from the bridge.
     
  11. Spider-Fan83 with great power...

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    in a way, it makes since, given he (and Church for that matter) were suppose to look exactly the same as they did in their movies ... so to bring Ifans (or Church) back for such a brief scene only to heavly CG de-age or make them up to make him look that way again (gained he didn't require as much de-aging as Ock or Goblin) but they had more meaty roles


    on a side note: seems like a missed opportunity to not have Tobey mention his Dr. Connors, would have been interesting to find out rather the {Dylan Baker}Connors of his universe ever became the lizard
     
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  12. Matt.S99 Formally batboy99

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    I’m fine if we never see MCU versions of the villains in this film except the Lizard. I really think we need an updated version of him and one that looks more menacing and dare I say, more dinosaur like.

    I do wish he had more to do here, but I understand why his role was limited. I did like that his eyes looked more reptilian in this compared to ASM.
     
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    As the artist said though. it wouldn't have worked for the story. It was never just a case of lets do it because we can, it was a case of whether the design made sense for the story.
     
  15. Albright Eeh…

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    Well the story is another story…
     

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