Transformers YOUR BIGGEST WTF moments, including Plotholes,etc,etc of the TF movie THREAD!

[Theweepeople]

I have an explanation for Bumblebee speaking at the end. Ratchet may have given BB the robotic medicine he needed to get healed after scanning the laser on him in the alley. It just took a while for the healing effects to set in. Some people will ask "why didn't bumblebee get healed by the allspark when he touched?" This plothole is partially explained below.

My explanation for the allspark turning electronic devices into dangerous robots could be the result of it either suffering damage or from being tampered with by the decepticons millions of years ago before it came to earth. The decepticons may have altered some of the technology in the allspark so it would only create violent robots and the good autonomous robots didn't have time to reverse what the decepticons had done to it before it left cybertron.

I have an explanation for why the human weapons were effective against the transformers. The allspark might periodically energize the sparks of all the transformers that it has direct contact with. During this time the transformers defensive and offensive systems are maximized thereby making them virtually indestructable to other alien races. Since the transformers hadn't been around the allspark for millions of years they were susceptible to being damage by technology that normally wouldn't harm them.

 

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

So my beef wasn't that there' wasn't any CD, it was just not enough for the robots, at least not enough that we cared when they died or were fighting.

That, and it's just hard to care one way or another when melee brawls last 10 seconds.

 

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Oh, and regarding actual thread, you just gotta LOVE how an all-powerful life-giving artifact can be destroyed that f****n easily.

The brother thingy also was a howler. Let's mention it AFTER the final showdown and thus ensuring it has no dramatic impact whatsoever. Clever move, guys.

And don't get me started on that 'peeing' scene. Cause war heroes would do something that childish. Huh huh.

 

[Baba Ghanoush]

I never thought that the human weapons hurting the transformers was a plothole. Simmons says that all of human technology was reverse engineered by studying Megatron. So it makes sense that our weapons would hurt them since its essentially derived from them, although our weapons are more primitive in nature compared to theirs.

 

[fallenAngel]

how about the fact that Bumblebee was always beat up in robot form, even after becoming the newer Camaro. It's fine, since I thought he looked cooler beat up, but it still didn't make any sense.

 

[Theweepeople]

Oh, and regarding actual thread, you just gotta LOVE how an all-powerful life-giving artifact can be destroyed that f****n easily.

Well if it had suffered damage over millions of years during the war on Cybertron and had never been repaired than it's not that hard to comprehend.

The brother thingy also was a howler.

I agree with you on this. It was stupid and unnecessary. Hopefully, the sequel will give an explanation for this bizzare revelation.

And don't get me started on that 'peeing' scene. Cause war heroes would do something that childish. Huh huh.

I've seen some of my mentors do childish things. I didn't find this to be too farfetched.

 

[Theweepeople]

how about the fact that Bumblebee was always beat up in robot form, even after becoming the newer Camaro. It's fine, since I thought he looked cooler beat up, but it still didn't make any sense.

Hopefully, the DVD will explain this like the comic does. Bumblebee was viciously beaten up by Megatron on Cybertron while the allspark was sent away from the planet. Bumblebee didn't let the autobot medics fully repair him before he left cybertron on his mission to find the allspark.

 

[Golgo-13]

Do you guys READ? The Allspark healed BB's voice just like it healed Frenzy...duh...?

 

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Well if it had suffered damage over millions of years during the war on Cybertron and had never been repaired than it's not that hard to comprehend.

It could handle meteors. But not a, hum, CHEST.

And still, it's just too funny that such an ancient mystical all-powerful artifact could be destroyed so easily by one its very own creation. I mean, damnit, we're talking mere contact here.

And, seriously, it can't be something so cheesy as "Megatron and Optimus were special because of that brother crap" ...???

I've seen some of my mentors do childish things.

True, BUT

1 - they didn't live for millions of years
2 - they didn't see their planet and more than 99% of their race die
3 - they didn't kill people

Cracking jokes is one thing. Going for something disturbingly close to the common denominator while arguing/fighting with someone is another entirely different thing. 'Yo Mama' jokes are more dignified.

 

[bunk]

I didn't take the "brother" comment that literally.

 

[Theweepeople]

Do you guys READ? The Allspark healed BB's voice just like it healed Frenzy...duh...?

Of course I read dofuss. You do realize that BB didn't talk right after he touched the allspark? You also realize that his limbs didn't immediately grow back while touching the allspark like frenzy don't you?

 

[Golgo-13]

Of course I read dofuss. You do release that BB didn't talk right after he touched the allspark? You also realize that his limbs didn't immediately grow back while touching the allspark like frenzy don't you?

I didn't know your name was 'guys' as you apparently took my last statement personal, *****ebag. ppl keep asking the same question. The Allspark explaination is the only one that makes sense. And apparently he didn't even try talking right afterhe touched. The poor guy hasn't talk in millions of years, so he had no real reason to try out his vocal chords at that point...

 

[Theweepeople]

It could handle meteors. But not a, hum, CHEST

You're being too logical with this reasoning.

And still, it's just too funny that such an ancient mystical all-powerful artifact could be destroyed so easily by one its very own creation. I mean, damnit, we're talking mere contact here.

Once again you are being way too logical with this reasoning. In Prime's opening monologue he says the transformers don't know where the allspark came from so it may have been created by someone or something.

On the other hand If the artifact is a sentient being that understood what could happen if it's power was corrupted then it might open a posibility for itself to be destroyed to prevent further destruction.

1 - they didn't live for millions of years

Time is relative under different circumstances. I'm not sure where you're going with this.

2 - they didn't see their planet and more than 99% of their race die

This is relative. So in all storylines alien species that see their planets and 99% of their race die can't have a sense of humor?

3 - they didn't kill people

You totally lost me with this one.

Cracking jokes is one thing. Going for something disturbingly close to the common denominator while arguing/fighting with someone is another entirely different thing. 'Yo Mama' jokes are more dignified.

Give me a break. Do we even know whether the robots know what humor is before they even came to the planet? Bumblebee may not have known the difference between a good joke and a bad one. There are plenty of comedians that use bathroom humor in their act. I've seen Eddie Murphy and George Carlin do this.

 

[bunk]

On the other hand If the artifact is a sentient being that understood what could happen if it's power was corrupted then it might open a posibility for itself to be destroyed to prevent further destruction.

Dude, stop having so much imagination...

 

[Theweepeople]

I didn't know your name was 'guys' as you apparently took my last statement personal, *****ebag.

You knew exactly what you were doing and who your were talking to. You were suggesting that me and one other person were ignorant for posting in this thread without any knowledge of the previous posts. I take offense to that and every clear thinking person like me would have acted the same way.

ppl keep asking the same question. The Allspark explaination is the only one that makes sense. And apparently he didn't even try talking right afterhe touched. The poor guy hasn't talk in millions of years, so he had no real reason to try out his vocal chords at that point...

No, it doesn't make sense.

1. If it did bumblebee would have gotten his legs back in the city while holding the allspark. How in the hell does the allspark heal one part of his body but, not the other.

2. The poor guy has no reason to talk or communicate to his robot buddies in a battle that could decide the fate of the earth and possibly the galaxy.

BULLCRAP!!!!!!!!

 

[Theweepeople]

Dude, stop having so much imagination...

It's my freedom to have a creative imagination. You should also try having one.

 

[bunk]

It's my freedom to have a creative imagination. You should also try having one.

...

nevermind

 

[Golgo-13]

You knew exactly what you were doing and who your were talking to. You were suggesting that me and one other person were ignorant for posting in this thread without any knowledge of the previous posts. I take offense to that and every clear thinking person like me would have acted the same way.

Stop being ssssooooooooo sensitive. I don't know you or this other phantom poster your talking about, nor had i read all of your previous posts. This question has been asked and answered more times than men have been in Paris Hiltons pants. The Allspark healed him. I acknowledge the legs thing,but this movie is fully of giant plotholes. If the Allspark didn't heal his voice box after millions of years of him being a mute, then what suddenly did?

 

[Closerframe]

1. Scorpnoks and Barricades dissapearence

2. Megatron getting defeated to easily

3. The Allspark not fixing Bumblebee when his legs are blown off

4. The Editing when their all deciding what their gonna do next after BB has downsides the Allspark.

5. Allspark to the Cube

 

[Theweepeople]

Stop being ssssooooooooo sensitive. I don't know you or this other phantom poster your talking about, nor had i read all of your previous posts. This question has been asked and answered more times than men have been in Paris Hiltons pants. The Allspark healed him. I acknowledge the legs thing,but this movie is fully of giant plotholes. If the Allspark didn't heal his voice box after millions of years of him being a mute, then what suddenly did?

I already gave an explanation for why it didn't heal bumblebee. I said the decepticons may have tampered with the allspark technology millions of years ago thereby preventing it from healing autobots when they touched it. If it was geared to only heal decepticons and the autobots didn't have time to reverse what the decepticons had done then the allspark shouldn't have healed bumblebee. Of course all my explanations could be regarded as BS. However, I like my explanations.t:

 

[Golgo-13]

I already gave an explanation for why it didn't heal bumblebee. I said the decepticons may have tampered with the allspark technology millions of years ago thereby preventing it from healing autobots when they touched it. If it was geared to only heal decepticons and the autobots didn't have time to reverse what the decepticons had done then the allspark shouldn't have healed bumblebee. Of course all my explanations could be regarded as BS. However, I like my explanations.t:

Fair enough; how then did BB get his voice back then?

 

[Theweepeople]

Fair enough; how then did BB get his voice back then?

I previous said that Ratchet might have given BB robotic medicine with that laser he shined on his neck. The medicine merely took a while to fully heal bumblebee.

 

[Golgo-13]

I previous said that Ratchet might have given BB robotic medicine with that laser he shined on his neck. The medicine merely took a while to fully heal bumblebee.

Oh come on now!

You gave me a hard time above for stating that the Allspark didn't 'immediately' to heal his vocals, now your stating this.

Your joking right?

 

[Theweepeople]

Oh come on now!

You gave me a hard time above for stating that the Allspark didn't 'immediately' to heal his vocals, now your stating this.

Your joking right?

I got this idea from the writer Orci himself on the transformers movie message board. I'm not joking. That explanation is more logical then the one of the allspark actually healing BB and him not speaking. We don't know what effects the laser that Ratchet shined on bumblebee had. Ratchet may have tried this before and it partially healed bumblebee but, not fully.

 

[The Kid]

noes. It's definitely from the allspark. we saw it heal frenzy's damaged body. Then when bumblebee somehow got it to shrink we see it spark up in bumblebee's mouthpiece a bit.

I'm still going with the idea that he either needed permission from optimus or was just joking with the puny humans.